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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:28 PM Jul 2020

So they're trying to force Fauci out by attacking him...

After hearing that on CNN, I thought I'd look up his background. From his accent I knew he was from NYC, but even more.

His father's parents were immigrants from Sicily. His mother's parents were both immigrants, grandmother from Naples and grandfather from Switzerland and Italy. All four were Italian immigrants.

He grew up in Brooklyn, NY, right near the Verrazzano Bridge ("Saturday Night Fever" neighborhood!) He went to Catholic High School on the Upper East Side. He may look slight and is soft-spoken, but he's one tough MFer!

Let them try to force him out, they CANNOT fire him - he doesn't work for the White House, but is a civil servant, unfireable without cause. I'll bet he's chuckling every time trump bad mouths him.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. I Doubt he's chuckling. He's a serious man in a serious business, and the rabble...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:37 PM
Jul 2020

have taken over.

He's depressed, and pissed.

elleng

(130,981 posts)
2. ZACLY, Let them try to force him out!
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jul 2020

'The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) is one of the 27 institutes and centers that make up the National Institutes of Health (NIH), an agency of the United States Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). NIAID's mission is to conduct basic and applied research to better understand, treat, and prevent infectious, immunologic, and allergic diseases.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institute_of_Allergy_and_Infectious_Diseases


However, 'The United States Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), also known as the Health Department, is a cabinet-level executive branch department of the U.S. federal government with the goal of protecting the health of all Americans and providing essential human services. Its motto is "Improving the health, safety, and well-being of America".[3] Before the separate federal Department of Education was created in 1979, it was called the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW).

HHS is administered by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, who is appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. The United States Public Health Service (PHS) is the main division of the HHS and is led by the Assistant Secretary for Health. The current Secretary, Alex Azar, assumed office on January 29, 2018, upon his appointment by President Trump and confirmation by the Senate.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Health_and_Human_Services

so azar could, it appears, fire, or try to fire Dr. Fauci, but would have to be 'for cause,' as Dr. Fauci is subject to protections provided for civil servants.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Exactly. I was going to say that but it could have been considered "insensitive", but....
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jul 2020

....I was thinking exactly that.

He grew up the hard way, one could almost say "on the streets of Brooklyn", not coddled by a billionaire father who hated him.

I'd love to see him and Bunker King in a street fight, Fauci would kick donnie's ass.

BTW, I figured him to be in his late 60s, he's actually 79, he's got 7 years on Donnie but looks 20 years younger than him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. Thanks, that's right. Fauci is still 5 years older but looks decades younger, and sharp as a tack.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jul 2020

rsdsharp

(9,186 posts)
12. Trump is incapable changing his tactics.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jul 2020

Early on, he decided his 2020 campaign was going to be about the economy, so he began pushing to reopen in May. That backfired as Fauci said it would. Not even I, an inveterate Trump hater, blame Covid on him. He should have acted earlier and imposed a very strong lockdown.It would have tanked the economy, but he would have done it to save lives. People would have understood. Then he should have turned it over to the experts, invoked the DPA for ventilators, fast tests, PPE, and worked with Congress for more test processing machines.

Had he done that, and successfully beaten back the virus, he would have been very hard to beat. He couldn’t do it. His approach was all smoke and mirrors with him being the face of the pandemic. You own it Donnie.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
4. These dopey talking points Trump's WH is circulating criticizing Fauci only emphasize
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jul 2020

how dumb Trumpland is.

Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
6. Fauci is the man in the arena and his critics have no influence
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jul 2020

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

Citizenship in a Republic is the title of a speech given by Theodore Roosevelt, former President of the United States, at the Sorbonne in Paris, France, on April 23, 1910.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
11. WHAT, did Fauci say several times that was wrong?
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jul 2020

I keep hearing that the WH is saying he keeps saying things wrong and they do not trust him. What do they claim he said wrong?

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