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blitzen

(4,572 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:15 PM Jul 2020

Trump says he'll be "signing a big immigration bill that a lot of people don't know about."

Sarah Cooper, are you listening?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-ll-sign-order-with-road-to-citizenship-for-daca-recipients/ar-BB16AWLP?ocid=hponeservicefeed

"The deal was done. DACA is going to be just fine. We're putting it in. It's going to be just fine. And I am going to be, over the next few weeks, signing an immigration bill that a lot of people don't know about. You have breaking news, but I'm signing a big immigration bill," Trump told Díaz-Balart.

"Is that an executive order?" the anchor asked.

"I'm going to do a big executive order. I have the power to do it as president and I'm going to make DACA a part of it," Trump responded. "But, we put it in, and we'll probably going to then be taking it out. We're working out the legal complexities right now, but I'm going to be signing a very major immigration bill as an executive order, which Supreme Court now, because of the DACA decision, has given me the power to do that."

Asked whether the executive order would provide temporary relief for DACA recipients, Trump said its scope would be much wider.

"No, what I'm going to do is that they're going to part of a much bigger bill on immigration. It's going to be a very big bill, a very good bill, and merit-based bill and it will include DACA, and I think people are going to be very happy," said Trump.

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Trump says he'll be "signing a big immigration bill that a lot of people don't know about." (Original Post) blitzen Jul 2020 OP
in other words dweller Jul 2020 #1
And in even other other words HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #33
There is no "bill." It is an EO on DACA SoonerPride Jul 2020 #2
He's just saying what he thinks Jose Diaz-Balart's audience wants to hear... blitzen Jul 2020 #8
Imaginary bill. sprinkleeninow Jul 2020 #15
I don't think he knows the difference. Polly Hennessey Jul 2020 #16
What will that be? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Jul 2020 #25
"merit-based bill" Newest Reality Jul 2020 #4
Does he know that "a bill" comes from Congress? TomSlick Jul 2020 #5
You read my mind..👇 vrguy Jul 2020 #7
Mr President A Bill vrguy Jul 2020 #6
One more thing for Biden to undo soothsayer Jul 2020 #9
He is just so utterly incoherent. dawg day Jul 2020 #10
He pulled that of his ass while standing there. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #11
He will sign an order to give some of them immediate citizenship dalton99a Jul 2020 #12
Is any of this true? dawg day Jul 2020 #13
Something about this really smells. Totally Tunsie Jul 2020 #14
This is what tRump thinks of real bills... revmclaren Jul 2020 #17
As President Obama said, 'he's nothing but a bullshitter' spanone Jul 2020 #18
3+ years in and this asswipe dotard still doesn't know elementary school level civics RockRaven Jul 2020 #19
An easier way to cut back on the paperwork keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #20
+! struggle4progress Jul 2020 #29
The bill was passed in Moscow dalton99a Jul 2020 #21
"we put it in, and we'll probably going to then be taking it out" Zenlitened Jul 2020 #22
What hell is he talking about? peggysue2 Jul 2020 #23
More false empty promises as he did in 2016 campaign to get votes wishstar Jul 2020 #24
kick for morning folks n/t blitzen Jul 2020 #26
He is a bullshitter. I don't think he can do much with an EO. Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #27
"We put the DACA in! We take the DACA out! We put the DACA in! And shake kids all about! struggle4progress Jul 2020 #28
He's as articulate and erudite as a slug. Goodheart Jul 2020 #30
In other words he just now made it up. nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2020 #31
My prediction Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #32

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. There is no "bill." It is an EO on DACA
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jul 2020

That’s all.

It is not a law.

It is not a bill.

He is lying.

Again.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
8. He's just saying what he thinks Jose Diaz-Balart's audience wants to hear...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jul 2020

including making up an imaginary bill. And of course it comes out as nonsense: "But, we put it in, and we'll probably going to then be taking it out."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,809 posts)
3. What will that be?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jul 2020

An order requiring anyone wanting to enter the US for any reason to have a DNA test to prove they are 100% "white"? Steven Miller would be all over that.

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
10. He is just so utterly incoherent.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jul 2020

He's spent almost 4 years acting like DACA was designed to fill the country with invaders.

Now he's doing a "very big bill"?

One week after SCOTUS had to rule to allow them to stay in their country?

I want to ask my right-wing professional Trumper cousin, who has been screeching about "Mexican rapist invaders" since 2015-- "So. How you feel NOW? He's betrayed you again!"

He'll probably say, "We were always for DACA! This isn't a change!"

dalton99a

(81,566 posts)
12. He will sign an order to give some of them immediate citizenship
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:26 PM
Jul 2020

The nice ones who said nice things about him

Their citizenship certificates will have his beautiful signature



dawg day

(7,947 posts)
13. Is any of this true?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jul 2020

"We're working out the legal complexities right now, but I'm going to be signing a very major immigration bill as an executive order, which Supreme Court now, because of the DACA decision, has given me the power to do that.">>

And if it's a bill, it's not an executive order. He can't make a bill. Only Congress can.

Ha, here I am being forgetful, thinking maybe Trump knows as much about government as a 5th grader would.

RockRaven

(14,986 posts)
19. 3+ years in and this asswipe dotard still doesn't know elementary school level civics
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:37 AM
Jul 2020

It's not a fucking bill, you moron.

Zenlitened

(9,488 posts)
22. "we put it in, and we'll probably going to then be taking it out"
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:44 AM
Jul 2020

I... I think he's talking about the hokey-pokey.

He's learning how to do the hokey-pokey.

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
23. What hell is he talking about?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:04 AM
Jul 2020

The Executive branch does not write legislation on anything, period. A bill is not an Executive Order nor is an Executive Order a bill. He put it in but we'll probably be taking it out???

What?

I think another trip to Walter Reed is in order.

The Man. Makes. No. Sense.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
24. More false empty promises as he did in 2016 campaign to get votes
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:22 AM
Jul 2020

He pretended he would help DACA residents, pretended he supported Planned Parenthood, pretended he would improve and expand health care and other issues just to fool some moderates into voting for him.

Buckeyeblue

(5,500 posts)
27. He is a bullshitter. I don't think he can do much with an EO.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 08:09 AM
Jul 2020

The SC was pretty clear. He can end DACA, but he has to go to court and have sound reasons why. He probably doesn't have time to do that before November.

struggle4progress

(118,323 posts)
28. "We put the DACA in! We take the DACA out! We put the DACA in! And shake kids all about!
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 08:20 AM
Jul 2020

We talk some hokey pokey and turn ourselves around! That's what we're all about!"

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
32. My prediction
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020

He will sign an executive order that does open up a pathway to citizenship for some DACA's, maybe even most of them (but probably not all). That pathway will neither be easy nor impossible, but under his order some people would end up deported for really minor reasons, like "disorderly conduct" while drunk or a marijuana bust .

Trump will do this because he needs to hold onto some of his suburban republican votes to have any chance of being reelected and he is scared to death of losing. This is literally the least Trump can do to try to soften his image as a racist anti-immigrant asshole, and he will do this only because he must. DACA is the low hanging fruit compromise gesture that he can make while continuing to pursue hard line ant--immigrant policies to court his base, a portion of whom actually have some sympathy for DACA's. This is the fig leaf he will trot out to "prove" that he's not a racist while continuing to act like the racist he is. He will use this as a ploy to try to peal off a few Latino votes It will be his token gesture to Hispanics, much as some prison sentencing reforms were for Blacks. He will toot his own horn endlessly on these actions to those target communities while continuing to overall screw them. It is ALL about election math.

Meanwhile Trump will not be able to stop himself. He will also insert some poison pill clauses in this new Executive Order that will be both reprehensible and indefensible, and utterly racist in both intent and impact.

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