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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRegarding Trump paying someone to take his SATs:
If true, that means he violated the Honor Code at The U.S. Military Academy at West Point.
The U.S. Military Academy at West Point
West Point's Cadet Honor Code reads simply that
"A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do."
Cadets accused of violating the Honor Code face a standardized investigative and hearing process ([2]). First they are tried by a jury of their peers. If they are found guilty, the case will go up to the Commandant of the Academy who will give his recommendation, then to the Superintendent of the Academy, who has the discretion to either impose sanctions or recommend that the Secretary of the Army expel the cadet from the Academy.
Definitions of the tenets of the Honor Code
LYING: Cadets violate the Honor Code by lying if they deliberately deceive another by stating an untruth or by any direct form of communication to include the telling of a partial truth and the vague or ambiguous use of information or language with the intent to deceive or mislead.
CHEATING: A violation of cheating would occur if a Cadet fraudulently acted out of self-interest or assisted another to do so with the intent to gain or to give an unfair advantage. Cheating includes such acts as plagiarism (presenting someone else's ideas, words, data, or work as one's own without documentation), misrepresentation (failing to document the assistance of another in the preparation, revision, or proofreading of an assignment), and using unauthorized notes.
STEALING: The wrongful taking, obtaining, or withholding by any means from the possession of the owner or any other person any money, personal property, article, or service of value of any kind, with intent to permanently deprive or defraud another person of the use and benefit of the property, or to appropriate it to either their own use or the use of any person other than the owner.
TOLERATION: Cadets violate the Honor Code by tolerating if they fail to report an unresolved incident with honor implications to proper authority within a reasonable length of time. "Proper authority" includes the Commandant, the Assistant Commandant, the Director of Military Training, the Athletic Director, a tactical officer, teacher or coach. A "reasonable length of time" is the time it takes to confront the Cadet candidate suspected of the honor violation and decide whether the incident was a misunderstanding or a possible violation of the Honor Code. A reasonable length of time is usually considered not to exceed 24 hours.
To have violated the honor code, a Cadet must have lied, cheated, stolen, or attempted to do so, or tolerated such action on the part of another Cadet. The procedural element of the Honor System examines the two elements that must be present for a Cadet to have committed an honor violation: the act and the intent to commit that act. The latter does not mean intent to violate the Honor Code, but rather the intent to commit the act itself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadet_Honor_Code#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Military%20Academy%20at%20West%20Point,-West%20Point%27s%20Cadet&text=%22A%20cadet%20will%20not%20lie,process%20(%5B2%5D).
MissB
(15,812 posts)I thought not.
Nevilledog
(51,183 posts)madaboutharry
(40,218 posts)He did go to a military academy high school.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)He went to some upstate military school HIGH SCHOOL for kids who need more discipline than that available in regular school.
What a weird post.
Shermann
(7,426 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)It doesn't matter to his cult
no_hypocrisy
(46,159 posts)He did attend the New York Military Academy, sans West Point.
Still has an Honor Code. It was violated.
Champp
(2,114 posts)rurallib
(62,441 posts)Blue Owl
(50,486 posts)A space cadet, that eventually formed an equally useless space force...
rsdsharp
(9,195 posts)After that he did two years at Fordham, before transferring to the University of Pennsylvania, where he graduated in 1968.
Whats odd is the book alleges that he didnt think his grade point at Fordham was good enough to get him into U Penn, so he hired the guy to take the SATs. I know my brother took the SATs before he went to ISU in 1964. Were there schools them that didnt require SATs for entrance, and others that required them for transfers?
Karadeniz
(22,564 posts)Showing his college transcript to prove his legitimacy, Trump sent Cohen and a couple of goons to his military high school to threaten them that they'd live to regret divulging info from Trump's records. I already knew Trump was a moron, but that confirmed it. I've wished someone from Fordham and U. Penn would steal his records and let the public see the truth.
Warpy
(111,327 posts)There is no way an ignorant, narcissistic bully could have gotten a sufficient score even as a legacy student to get into any elite college and they all required the SAT back then.
As for West Point, it's kind of irrelevant, he didn't get in and Daddy Fred wanted him to go into bidness or law, anyway.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)I bet he paid people to take his classes for him.