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highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:06 AM Jul 2020

Wow! More quotes from Mary Trump's new book (DT may have "long undiagnosed learning disability")

Not sure how the reporter who tweeted these got his advance copy, but I want to post his thread, which starts here, full text below:






Mary Trump, a psychologist, in the book her uncle Donald wanted stopped: 'a case could be made for antisocial personality disorder...he may have a long undiagnosed learning disability that for decades has interfered with his ability to process information.' Wow.


Mary Trump on her uncle, the US president: 'his ability to control unfavourable situations by lying, spinning, and obfuscating has diminished to the point of impotence in the midst of the tragedies we are currently facing.'


Mary Trump on the 2016 US presidential election: 'it felt as though 62,979,636 voters had chosen to turn this country into a macro version of my malignantly dysfunctional family...if he is afforded a 2nd term, it would be the end of American democracy.'


Mary Trump in her book, 'Too much and never enough': 'Donald's penchant for division, and devastating uncertainty about our country's future have created a perfect storm of catastrophes that no one is less equipped than my uncle to manage.'




The "very stable genius" will have a fit about his niece giving her expert opinion that he might have an undiagnosed learning disability.

But of course he's made sure no one can find out what his grades were like...
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Wow! More quotes from Mary Trump's new book (DT may have "long undiagnosed learning disability") (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP
'antisocial personality disorder' - psychopath denem Jul 2020 #1
yup, I've been posting that for years... Javaman Jul 2020 #49
Basically the definition for any Radical Republican Leader. rickyhall Jul 2020 #53
Thanks for writing this! The more you study and learn Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #73
TRUM P CAN'T LEAARN, he is a moron with a 45 I.Q. trueblue2007 Jul 2020 #80
Maybe Mary should have warned the country back in 2016? sop Jul 2020 #2
I'm willing to bet that topic is addressed in the book. Maru Kitteh Jul 2020 #5
He's trying to block in courts, right? On what grounds? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #19
He's already tried and failed NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #36
He's really good with getting emergency stays and delays.. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #63
Executive Privilege NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #65
Retroactive to his birth? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #70
of course NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #71
Would the country have lstened? Warpy Jul 2020 #59
Nothing anyone said against Pissolini got through to the dysfunctional morons Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2020 #101
she, like many - even the orangemoron himself - may not have believed he could possibly win Kali Jul 2020 #79
Antisocial Personality Disorder (psycopathy) fits the bill. Laelth Jul 2020 #3
We've seen lots of articles and books about Trump being a psychopath. Her suggesting he highplainsdem Jul 2020 #8
Yeah, Trump being such a stable genius, and all. sop Jul 2020 #9
Perhaps. Laelth Jul 2020 #10
While I appreciate her frankness, North Shore Chicago Jul 2020 #4
Tum then had his own private security force and she would have had an accident by falling out of a LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #16
he still does have a private security force, importantly Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #74
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn he had Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #6
I have always believed he is dyslexic or mildly autistic... Mazeltov Cocktail Jul 2020 #28
Being a Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #41
I don't think he is on the autism spectrum at all LeftInTX Jul 2020 #46
Forgot Autistic Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #57
He's way too social for autism nt intrepidity Jul 2020 #86
I think he has a reading disability (verbal learning issues) LeftInTX Jul 2020 #44
My nephew has dyslexia treestar Jul 2020 #88
Worse part of Dyslexia is Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #90
I taught dyslexic students for many years. summer_in_TX Jul 2020 #92
I'm dyslectic. LisaM Jul 2020 #104
There's great variety in those with dyslexia. summer_in_TX Jul 2020 #109
Once I could read, it was better. LisaM Jul 2020 #110
I hadn't seen that form of the word before. summer_in_TX Jul 2020 #111
I have a company that deals with dyslexia in NY onlyadream Jul 2020 #54
That jives with what I have been thinking. Mazeltov Cocktail Jul 2020 #91
My professor of Abnormal Psychology gave us safeinOhio Jul 2020 #84
What's spookier is that his personality traits are admired by so many Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #7
Have you read The Sociopath Next Door? MoonRiver Jul 2020 #12
Thanks for the link. I'm about to order it on Audible. Though I imagine Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #21
Good decision. Mira Jul 2020 #34
I just ordered it, too. dmr Jul 2020 #72
You're welcome dmr! MoonRiver Jul 2020 #97
I read it years ago in paperback, and it was shocking but fascinating. MoonRiver Jul 2020 #38
That's a good one... MontanaMama Jul 2020 #39
I'll have to read that book. MoonRiver Jul 2020 #51
Family Business Entitled prick refuge! Nt Mopar151 Jul 2020 #68
Oh yes! catchnrelease Jul 2020 #82
bought this book this morning on your suggestion... Trueblue Texan Jul 2020 #102
trump has a bad very bad case of sex on the wrong brain. greed and the certainty certainot Jul 2020 #40
ok, I'm no expert... not_the_one Jul 2020 #58
i grew up right handed. i've heard the 90% more often but there's also a wide certainot Jul 2020 #67
No offense, but this sounds made-up nt intrepidity Jul 2020 #87
an elaborate joke? the basis for a funny science fiction comedy? or a new paradigm certainot Jul 2020 #93
So... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #100
This could explain why Trump doesn't read: he CAN'T. n/t MrModerate Jul 2020 #11
I think it's clear he is dyslexic. That would explain his apparent incoherence in reading and his Augiedog Jul 2020 #13
Amen to that. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #17
I agree grantcart Jul 2020 #25
Trump probably has a reading disability of some sort LeftInTX Jul 2020 #55
Gerald Ford was dyslexic. Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #81
Justin A. Frank, M.D., professor clinical psychology George Washington University Medical rustbeltvoice Jul 2020 #14
Lots of people have a lower than average degree of innate ability CatLady78 Jul 2020 #15
Indeed! Duppers Jul 2020 #37
As Bruce Bannor would say "his brain is a bag of cats" captain queeg Jul 2020 #18
Here ya go: highplainsdem Jul 2020 #20
Btw, it would definitely be flattering Trump to compare him to Loki. highplainsdem Jul 2020 #22
It boils down to "he doesn't like to read". Nothing more. Aristus Jul 2020 #23
Whatever the cause, it has served him well Zambero Jul 2020 #50
his ability to control unfavourable situations by lying, spinning, and obfuscating has diminished to Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #24
fatal flaw Locrian Jul 2020 #42
You know that he didn't think he'd win actually makes Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #61
Totally agree!! LeftInTX Jul 2020 #56
Yes, perhaps recent downswing? Yet he probably Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #62
In my office, I have always asked people to email me rather than call. Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #26
I don't see the Wow factor there mnmoderatedem Jul 2020 #27
No surprise at all. TryLogic Jul 2020 #52
Noel Casler who worked on Celebrity Apprentice said that Trump's dyslexic and always had trouble octoberlib Jul 2020 #29
+1 Mike 03 Jul 2020 #43
When I discovered Noel on Twitter I went back and read through all his tweets. octoberlib Jul 2020 #66
Well that explains bdamomma Jul 2020 #45
Very interesting link - thanks for sharing it with us! Mountain Mule Jul 2020 #47
I want Mark Burnett gone. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #76
Agree. He's also a Putin lover. octoberlib Jul 2020 #89
It explains why he watches so much TV. kskiska Jul 2020 #30
It also explains why Twitter is his medium of choice for communicating. llmart Jul 2020 #35
Mary is good - very good - this will piss him off malaise Jul 2020 #31
+1000000 Pachamama Jul 2020 #105
"if he is afforded a 2nd term, it would be the end of American democracy" lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #32
Both Trump and Bush were on the radar of a few Sped teachers I know. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #33
About "The Sociopath Next Door" Larissa Jul 2020 #48
Excellent reading list. n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #69
Here's another tidbit from the book Zorro Jul 2020 #60
So he is a fucking moron AND a murderous psychopath dalton99a Jul 2020 #64
He gets failing grades daily. Dios Mio Jul 2020 #75
My wife, an educational diagnostician, has always said GETPLANING Jul 2020 #77
I agree. While I don't have a Ilsa Jul 2020 #78
Every Teacher is nodding their head. Vigorously. n/t AwakeAtLast Jul 2020 #83
If I can't be in the advanced copy club, I guess I should cancel my book order ancianita Jul 2020 #85
I hope the DSM-VI has a simple, understandable entry: Buns_of_Fire Jul 2020 #94
The narcissism interferes. If something is contrary to what he wants to believe, ecstatic Jul 2020 #95
If anyone has not gathered these things in the last four years warmfeet Jul 2020 #96
She's probably correct. Beacool Jul 2020 #98
Must be weird to have an uncle who's a toddler Blue Owl Jul 2020 #99
I am about Trump's age. They did not diagnose our learning disabilities. raging moderate Jul 2020 #103
The book should have been "American Psychopath"... Pachamama Jul 2020 #106
He appears to be a textbook sociopath. Trueblue Texan Jul 2020 #107
With all the assinine things he says Woodwizard Jul 2020 #108

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
49. yup, I've been posting that for years...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

as well as this, at every opportunity...

The Dark Triad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad#:~:text=In%20psychology%2C%20the%20dark%20triad,because%20of%20their%20malevolent%20qualities.

In psychology, the dark triad refers to the personality traits of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy.[1][2][3][4] They are called "dark" because of their malevolent qualities.[5][1][6][7]

Research on the dark triad is used in applied psychology, especially within the fields of law enforcement, clinical psychology, and business management. People scoring high on these traits are more likely to commit crimes, cause social distress and create severe problems for an organization, especially if they are in leadership positions (for more information, see psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism in the workplace). They also tend to be less compassionate, agreeable, empathetic, satisfied with their lives, and less likely to believe they and others are good.[8]

All three dark triad traits are conceptually distinct although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous-manipulative interpersonal style.[9]

Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[10]
Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, an absence of morality, unemotional callousness, and a higher level of self interest.[11]
Psychopathy is characterized by continuous antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits (CU),[12] and remorselessness.[13]
A factor analysis found that among the big five personality traits, low agreeableness is the strongest correlate of the dark triad, while neuroticism and a lack of conscientiousness were associated with some of the dark triad members.[11] Agreeableness and the dark triad show correlated change over development.[14]

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
73. Thanks for writing this! The more you study and learn
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

the more he seems like a textbook case. And we have seen him 100x more than any therapist would have. Once you learn more it's harder to listen to those who simply dismiss him as a mean asshole... So much deeper than that.

I would love to hear an expert talk about the affects that his lifestyle had on him. Not sure when he moved into the penthouse but he worked in the building as well. So except when he went out in his limo or copter or jet, his whole life for many years was leaving a gold studded penthouse, getting on a elevator and going to work with a small group of yes men, then back on elevator home.

Little exposure to the outside world of normal people and environment.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
36. He's already tried and failed
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jul 2020

not sure if Team Trump will appeal to a higher level, but I'm guessing they moved the publication date up 2 weeks to relieve pressure from a possible lawsuit.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
63. He's really good with getting emergency stays and delays..
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jul 2020

Just don't know what his grounds could be. Defamation?

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
59. Would the country have lstened?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jul 2020

Dumdum exposed himself on a daily basis as what he is--a malignant narcissist, a profound ignoramus, a raging bigot, and an elitist who despises everyone who isn't himself.

The truth is that a large segment of the population was in full shriek after 8 years of a black president had overturned rocks and allowed bigots to slither out into full view. Russia took full advantage of this in a massive and well funded disinformation campaign, and once Comey came out 5 days before the election with a last attempt at smearing Clinton, the fix was in.

I will always be astonished Clinton won the popular vote. Once Comey pulled his stunt, I knew all that was left was to have Putin set the rhinestone crown on Stupid's head.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
101. Nothing anyone said against Pissolini got through to the dysfunctional morons
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:20 PM
Jul 2020

who voted for him. They saw the same horrific behavior that we saw and they admired him for it! Most of them still do.

Kali

(55,023 posts)
79. she, like many - even the orangemoron himself - may not have believed he could possibly win
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jul 2020

and then a period of shock and of course it takes time to put a book together...

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Antisocial Personality Disorder (psycopathy) fits the bill.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jul 2020

The learning disorder is a minor deficiency by comparison.

-Laelth

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
8. We've seen lots of articles and books about Trump being a psychopath. Her suggesting he
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:19 AM
Jul 2020

has an undiagnosed learning disorder will upset him more.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. Perhaps.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jul 2020

However, for people with APD, the alleged learning disability is merely a crutch that is used to garner sympathy and excuse antisocial behavior.

-Laelth

North Shore Chicago

(3,327 posts)
4. While I appreciate her frankness,
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jul 2020

will it be a day late? Where were all of these people who dare tell in 2016? 2015? When they are cashing in, do their stories hold more value?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
74. he still does have a private security force, importantly
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jul 2020

Blackwater graduates, former FBI, etc.

I read something about it just the other day. I don't know how it coordinates with SS, but it's there.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
6. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn he had
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:15 AM
Jul 2020

a learning disability, especially a reading disability. It’s amazing how many steps the brain has to take to read and how many different ways that process can go wrong.

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
28. I have always believed he is dyslexic or mildly autistic...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jul 2020

I think Eric and Barron are also affected by the same disability.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
41. Being a
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jul 2020

Dyslexic,I so agree with that diagnosis and would add he appears to be Autistic as well. Or maybe Bi-Polar?

LeftInTX

(25,558 posts)
46. I don't think he is on the autism spectrum at all
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

He might "appear" that way, because he doesn't have strong emotional attachments to people. Trump's problem is more emotional/personality than than biological. People on the autism spectrum, really don't have the ability to con people the way Trump has conned people.


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
57. Forgot Autistic
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jul 2020

Persons are attachable. Had a parent that was diagnosed Bi-Polar in her Sixties. Watch the gradual lack of attachment accelerate from her middle fifties and Her lack of anger control diminish over time. One of the worse things is,their loss of reality of what is Truth and what is false.

Trump appears to have created a Mental Cheat Sheet and uses it to mask over his lack of Inter-personal skill set. When he cocks his head to the upper right position,get ready for a massive out burst of Bull Crap. You just know he is grasping from that Cheat sheet.

LeftInTX

(25,558 posts)
44. I think he has a reading disability (verbal learning issues)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jul 2020

Dyslexia is one, but there are others.

I don't believe he is on the autism spectrum at all. He's actually more the opposite. Psychopathic tendencies require being able to "read people like a book". (Maybe he is a visual learner) He uses his skills to engage in antisocial behavior, whereas those who are born in the autism spectrum have a disability that prevents them from reading social cues, hence they may appear antisocial due to their inability to form relationships.

Trump has shallow relationships with people, because he uses them. He's self centered.
Trump's relationship issues are personality related. Autism relationship issues are secondary to a biological disorder.

His reading disability does not appear to be severe, but he struggles with a teleprompter. If he had a dose of humility, he could deal with it, but he has no humility. He could have his PDB read to him.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
88. My nephew has dyslexia
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jul 2020

One accommodation he had was to have test questions read to him. He likes books on tape more than reading.

Dotarse would however never admit to it and have the briefs read to him.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
90. Worse part of Dyslexia is
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020

Reading retention. Have to reread certain passages more than once to understand what I just read. Especially Technical Manuals or a simple Recipe. But,Engineering Drawings or Electrical Drawings,piece of cake. So it effects some in different ways.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
92. I taught dyslexic students for many years.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jul 2020

Your description makes sense. Dyslexics have problems with two dimensional things like reading which is very left-brained. Engineering and electrical drawings are more three dimensional and draw more on the right side of the brain. One of the most severely dyslexic kids I taught was brilliant with three-D design. Wanted to design amusement park rides and so forth.

LisaM

(27,835 posts)
104. I'm dyslectic.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 02:07 AM
Jul 2020

For the most part, I've overcome it, but when I'm tired or stressed, I can mix things up, particularly left and right.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
109. There's great variety in those with dyslexia.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jul 2020

And typically dyslexics are exceptionally bright. I find many don't believe that though, because so much of their elementary school experience was frustrating because of the reading issues. Everything is reading and spelling-intensive in those grades without much extra-curricular areas where they could shine.

Usually middle and high school was better, because by that time the issue had been figured out and they'd learned coping skills. Plus they had accommodations written into their 504 or IEP plan.

I loved working with my dyslexic and learning disabled elementary students. I mostly did math although I trained in teaching reading. The visual memory issues often made learning math an issue until they had a multi-sensory approach. Once they had tools and found they could learn it, their self-confidence began building.

LisaM

(27,835 posts)
110. Once I could read, it was better.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:27 AM
Jul 2020

I went from not being able to read to skipping a grade.

I took a writing class one year from a professor who also taught classics and he was insistent that we use the term dyslectic instead of dyslexic! So I still do, in case you wondered about that.

summer_in_TX

(2,754 posts)
111. I hadn't seen that form of the word before.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jul 2020

Thanks for clarifying.

So many are brilliant. Now that there are teachers who understand how to teach dyslexic students (multi sensory methods), hopefully fewer are being failed by the educational system.

onlyadream

(2,168 posts)
54. I have a company that deals with dyslexia in NY
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jul 2020

and, in 2015, had a conversation with a woman whose son went to school with Barron, and she said that it was a school for dyslexic students. Since dyslexia does run in families, and judging by Trump's inability to read, I would say that Trump is dyslexic. With that said, dyslexics can be high IQ and low IQ, and they (just like anyone else) can have other disorders. I think Trump is a low IQ person, with dyslexia and a narcissistic personality disorder.

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
91. That jives with what I have been thinking.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jul 2020

Also seems, at this stage, to correlate with advance published passages from Mary Trump's book.

safeinOhio

(32,726 posts)
84. My professor of Abnormal Psychology gave us
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

a list of symptoms and ask us to say what the diagnosis would be. After everyone gave their guess she said in the field there is a term for this person, he is fucking nuts.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. What's spookier is that his personality traits are admired by so many
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:17 AM
Jul 2020

Granted, the admirers are tainted by their own psychological issues, but these are our neighbors and fellow Americans. Their votes count as much as ours. And they're sick.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
34. Good decision.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jul 2020

I have a close family member who even under age 5 was exhibiting troubling behavior that has not abated / now 24 years old. I read the book THREE times -- over time. It has been very helpful to me to understand and let go.
When it comes to 45 it helps to understand - and then work to let go in November.
The book will enlighten you in general, and give you power to understand much about 45 and people around you...........Very readable and almost one you can't put down.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
38. I read it years ago in paperback, and it was shocking but fascinating.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

Now I mostly read on my iPad.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
39. That's a good one...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jul 2020

I would add Thomas Sheridan’s book, Puzzling People: The Labyrinth of the Psychopath to that. Lots of these folks out there. Sheridan’s book helped me understand how to interact...or actually not interact with them. I have a brother who is a full on psychopath. I ended my relationship with him in 2011. Best thing I ever did.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
51. I'll have to read that book.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jul 2020

I have a sister who is definitely a psychopath, along with being a drug and alcohol abuser. Bad combos. Haven't spoken with her for years either.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
82. Oh yes!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jul 2020

I read it years ago, back before I retired. It helped explain some of the people where I worked. Amazing how many of these people are out there! I think the author says 25% of the population if I remember right.

Trueblue Texan

(2,443 posts)
102. bought this book this morning on your suggestion...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jul 2020

Before you get through the first chapter it's easy to see that Trump is definitely a sociopath. I've recognized several others in my life as well.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. trump has a bad very bad case of sex on the wrong brain. greed and the certainty
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jul 2020

deficit disorder (CDD) are major symptoms of SOWB. most people have sowb, it's baked into our modern authoritarian societies and cultures, but trump has it really bad, like hitler and other dictators.

fear broke him. he compensated by creating a world in which he is god and always certain. creating certainty requires denial. he is in complete denial but all his life and now he is protected from the impacts. without a bodyguard he would have been laughed out of or beaten up in any working man's bar he ever tried to venture into as soon as he started talking. he never learned, and his mentor Roy Cohn probably knew the secret currency of authoritarian power was certainty. intolerance of uncertainty limits imagination, creativity, ability to feel like other people/empathize. he is always right no matter what. that royal certitude is what attracts authoritarian (sowb) followers.

from sexonthewrongbrain.com:

Sowb is caused by masturbation with the right hand, which is connected to the left brain hemisphere. Motion of the right hand is controlled by and can stimulate activity in the left hemisphere. By default, most humans in modern developed societies have their first sexual experiences with the wrong hand. Continued sex with the right hand can program long lasting neural pathways that may continue to divert sex energy to the left brain long after real sex.

Sowb stimulates neural circuitry that increases fear, rewards conformity, and inhibits creativity. It has been normalized in most modern human societies and is often wrongly referred to as ‘human nature’.



COMMON SYMPTOMS

Certainty Deficit Disorder (CDD)

Impatient satisfaction-demanding reproductive impulses create a need for certainty that can supersede fact or reality. Certainty ends thinking and brings ‘satisfaction’ through closure, finality, and premature conclusion. The irrational need for non-existent certainty requires avoidance of natural ever-present uncertainty which increases stress and fear and motivates a wide range of short and long-term coping strategies, such as denial and authoritarianism (see below).

Humans may cultivate thought patterns that reward lying and denial in order to create certainty and reduce uncertainty. Certainty can become more important than truth.

Researchers studying 50 years of psychological profiles of conservatives identified 'avoidance of uncertainty' as a defining motivation ( Political Conservatism As Motivated Social Cognition, Jost, J.T., et al, 2003, May, American Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin). Authoritarianism is sometimes measured with the Uncertainty Avoidance Index, or UAI.



Greed, objectification, materialism, and 'free market' capitalism


Definitions of "greed" commonly begin with “desire for.....”

With sowb, potent energy that’s meant to fuel love and desire for a mate can interfere with brain functions involved in counting, quantifying, measuring, classifying, comparing, and putting things in order. That can cause obsession for objects and greed for more, bigger, and faster. Satisfaction, pleasure, and beauty may be measured in numbers, dollars, and inches.

Unregulated 'free market' capitalism is a sowb-based strategy for reducing uncertainty while satisfying greed. It replaces thinking and responsibility with 'market demand'. 'Market demand' can be used to replace democratically determined regulation with monopolistic greed and authoritarianism.


two main factors may have contributed to trump's extreme sowb. genetics - humans evolved with sowb and as populations and conflicts increased different populations selected for the symptoms that they preferred and gave them best survival advantage. descendants from older 'civilizations' have it worse/are more susceptible than newer ones. that differential in acceptance of uncertainty may be a source of bigotry/racism - european american vs african american, for instance (columbus (high sowb) meets the natives (low sowb))

trump was a spoiled kid with lots of privacy and spare time and because he was such an asshole with an asshole scary father he probably didn't have any real friends and had no chance at sex without paying for it. so he masturbated a lot, associating sex with guilt, fear, and rejection, and that was the trigger for a bad, very bad case of sowb.
 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
58. ok, I'm no expert...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jul 2020

or at least I don't have a PHD in it...., but have done, and are still doing, research on the matter...

But what percentage of people are right handed, and what percentage are left handed. I am right handed.

Dr. Google says 75 to 90% are right handed. Do we ALL have SOWB?

THAT sure explains a lot. (although I don't believe it )

MOST of people's errors in judgment are probably arrived at because there is some degree of sex involved in the equation. At least that is how it has worked out for me.

However, all those errors in judgment due to a sexual component (the majority of my errors) have resulted in me being where I am at, today.

Relatively speaking, it is a pretty comfortable place to be at age 69.

Like they say, your mistakes make you what you are. At this point, facing my final chapters, I am cool with the result.

Say La Vee.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
67. i grew up right handed. i've heard the 90% more often but there's also a wide
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jul 2020

spectrum as to HOW dominant one hand or the other is.

apparently there are a lot of factors involved in sowb - genes and environment. wilhelm reich (frued student) wrote a paper on fascism "mass psychology of fascism" in 1933 in europe blaming sexual repression, paternalism - raising children associating sex with punishment, religious guilt etc and mentioned masturbation about 10 times. he just didn't know that one hand might be the bigger problem.

the book/story explains left handers living in a right handed sowb world generally adjust and end up conforming to the dominant generally accepted brain patterns created with culture, society, religion etc. a lot of the hereditary lines that couldn't fit in were probably exorcised long ago.

for the most part levels of sowb were probably pretty low most of human evolution because we were fewer, living shorter lives, and starting sex sooner. cooperation was probably more valuable than competition then. a few thousand years ago sowb probably got a lot worse but sowb is not human nature, as so many say, just symptoms of learning sex with the wrong hand.....

excerpts from sowb:

Factors influencing sowb levels include:

degree of left brain dominance, use of right brain
gender
early sexual experience (establishing neural patterns)
libido
frustration
sexual repression/freedom
levels of titillation (ie. sex in advertising, access to pornography)
access to privacy and leisure time (often increases with affluence)
heredity, genetic susceptibility (explained later)
socially enforced neural patterns and associations used to foster sowb-based value structures.


EVOLUTION, RIGHT HANDEDNESS, AND THE ‘SOWB GENE’


Anthropologists believe early human ancestors started out about 50-50 right and left handed, like the chimps and apes of today, but have had little success explaining why humans became increasingly right handed. Eventually about 100,000 years ago humans settled into about 90% right handed.


The last few thousand years:


Longer life, more right handed masturbation and more sowb. Sex on the wrong brain became an increasingly dominant part of the long-lasting authoritarian civilizations which, by default and/or design, created social structures to enforce sexual repression and increase frustration. Populations and cultures could select for particular sowb symptoms that were advantageous for a particular situation or environment, such as for building armies.

So-called civilized ‘Old World’ populations with centuries of sexual repression and frustration might be expected to have more sowb symptoms than ‘New World’ populations and their descendants today. Are differences in cultural attitudes toward nature, uncertainty, and greed apparent in brain function or structure consistent with more vs less sex on the wrong brain?
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
93. an elaborate joke? the basis for a funny science fiction comedy? or a new paradigm
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

for evaluating human evolution and behavior

forget lizard brains. two brain hemispheres that may emphasize different functions connected to opposing two hands, one sexual organ, and a binary choice. does it make a difference? even if the difference is small, how does it effect survival and how does that accumulate over millions of years? if there's an inherited factor, is that a characteristic dim don got from his racist crooked father? did their ancestors survive better in some brutal part of europe by excelling in being more suspicious, greedy, racist, and assholy? who's to say their predilection for authoritarianism didn't come from having a heightened sensitivity to sex on the wrong brain and being too assholy to get a date? or maybe self conscious of the inherited misshapen trump penis (stormy mcdaniels). didn't his grandfather run a brothel or something?

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
13. I think it's clear he is dyslexic. That would explain his apparent incoherence in reading and his
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jul 2020

Child like phrasings. He simply won’t or can’t admit he needs help so he lashes out defensively. His anger at not being able to read at a normal level is a poorly hidden secret. It infuriates him that others can easily do something perceived as simple that he cannot do.

Poor reading ability, dyslexia or not, is a marker for rage and anger period. Poor reading skills are a hallmark of southern and conservative states. They are an indictment of anti intellectual education systems.

Good reading skills lead to good critical thinking skills, a skill conservatives fear most. Poor critical thinking skills lead to a sense of helplessness and fury at the world in general and at the educated populace specifically.

There is a reason why reading is so feared by tyrannical rulers through history, from Popes to slave owners. Reading was not only frowned upon but outlawed.

Education is the greatest equalizer of all, nothing else matches.

2naSalit

(86,798 posts)
17. Amen to that.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jul 2020

It's very noticeable in places like Idaho where the lds folks rule everything... and when I used to proofread my boss's papers, I was appalled at his lack of writing skills, the guy was my age in late 30s. In fact, proofreading most of the professional papers I edited were horrible. My best friend, for whom English is a 3rd language and her first language contains no articles, had a far better grasp on the language than most of the professionals who grew up in Idaho did.

Every time I see it, I thank my lucky stars that I attended the excellent public schools in the NE states when they were among the best in the nation which gave me reading and writing skills, even as a dyslexic.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. I agree
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

Interestingly there are many examples of dyslexic type A leaders who developed prodigious memories and laser focus on non reading communication to compensate.

It is said that Nelson Rockefeller's dyslexia was so bad that he was unable to read but that he improved his memory skills to the point that he could virtually recite a one page memo after an aide read it to him once.

LeftInTX

(25,558 posts)
55. Trump probably has a reading disability of some sort
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jul 2020

Reading disabilities are very common and in Trump's day and age, the solution was tutoring or cheating. (Betcha dollars to donuts, he spent money cheating in school)

He went to very good schools and I'm pretty sure he can read at a 5th grade level. He's POTUS, so his ability needs to be higher.
He has no humility, hence no critical thinking skills. He won't ask for help if he doesn't understand something.

I have two bachelor degrees and I recently made a 15 second video for a candidate. At age 64, my ability to articulate and deliver is going down hill. It's a combination of age related factors. I made the Dean's List through most of college (I have a BS in Math and a BS in Nursing) I don't have a reading disability, but my ability to articulate ain't what it used to be.

Mr.Bill

(24,330 posts)
81. Gerald Ford was dyslexic.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jul 2020

But he worked around it very well. I think Trump's vocabulary is less than half the average person. Look how often he uses a handful of superlatives in ways that are completely inappropriate. "Open the schools beautifully."?

rustbeltvoice

(430 posts)
14. Justin A. Frank, M.D., professor clinical psychology George Washington University Medical
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jul 2020

I read Justin Frank's "Trump on the Couch". With items from the public record up to April of 2018, he tells information and observations that anyone who has been paying attention would know and realise. The book also reminds me of the old joke, "Guy goes to the psychiatrist. The first thing the psychiatrist says is 'Why do you hate your mother?'" But beyond that, Trump is not only unfit (and dangerous) for the office of the presidency, Trump is unfit for society (any society).

Frank also wrote books on bushjr, and Obama. There is much redundancy between gwbjr and Trump. Frank saw a danger to the country in bushjr, and wrote the book. He has empathy for bushjr, and believes his religious conversion was genuine. If it was, he could not have chosen any other sect [evangelicals] that so conveniently accommodates fraud. Besides the obvious reports on junior, he sees a mild form of Tourette's syndrome. Both Trump and bushjr are horrible, but Frank is not so generous about Trump.

Malignant narcissism, mendacity, sadism, a profound ignorance, and the desire to be dictators are in both. They would have been nothing, if their fathers were not born before them. Both really enjoy destroying, they glee in destruction. Trump moreso. Trump is extremely loud and gaudy, while gwbjr enjoyed a smug emptiness, and politically wanted to appear folksy.

https://rustbeltvoice.blogspot.com/2019/01/ruminating-on-recumbent-couch.html

CatLady78

(1,041 posts)
15. Lots of people have a lower than average degree of innate ability
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jul 2020

What distinguishes those of us on that end of the spectrum from the Trumps and the Palins is - a) an acceptance/acknowledgement of that (i.e. not thinking one is a stable genius) coupled with a desire to find the optimal way forward from there and b) a real value placed on learning and education (instead of ..going on as Trump does ..)

Aristus

(66,466 posts)
23. It boils down to "he doesn't like to read". Nothing more.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

I suppose there are those out there who want to generate sympathy for Trump and his unfortunate 'disability'; then we can sigh sympathetically and say 'it's not his fault'.

But his only learning disability is that he is intellectually lazy (along with all the other kinds of lazy), and doesn't like to read. Google surfers and AM hate radio fanatics notwithstanding, reading is the best way to learn.

Zambero

(8,971 posts)
50. Whatever the cause, it has served him well
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jul 2020

Eschewing writing and emails in favor of verbalizing eliminates potential damning evidence that might have otherwise been documented. What he gains is "plausible deniability", with much in the way of he-said / he-(or she-) said scenarios, which also provides "reasonable doubt". Learning disabilities notwithstanding, Trump has clearly learned what things work to his own advantage, what things he can get away with, and how to pull them off without leaving an obvious trail.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. his ability to control unfavourable situations by lying, spinning, and obfuscating has diminished to
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

Impotance.

If you watch Netflix documentary on trump... He completely controlled his image. But it was easier. Private company, full of yes men with NDAs, fewer press/less instant news.

But he can't control the entire world including all the news and all his opposition.

His fatal flaw is that he didn't realize that his environment would be so different.

Like Palin, screws loose when you don't know you aren't good enough to be president. Normal people who say, hell know, I don't know enough.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
42. fatal flaw
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:34 AM
Jul 2020

Also I don't think he thought we would win or wanted to actually win.
I was all a reality TV marketing scheme.
Once he DID win - it immediately went to his head.

The stupidity of the US voter threw the wild card and we've been dealing with it for 3+ years

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
61. You know that he didn't think he'd win actually makes
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jul 2020

me feel a little better. Maybe it means that there wasn't huge orchestrated vote hack/manipulation? (Or they'd be certain). Just the smears and Clinton falsehoods and suppression tactics. Ha. The stars just happened to align for him in the EC

LeftInTX

(25,558 posts)
56. Totally agree!!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jul 2020

Out of his element.

I agree he probably has a reading disability (which are very common), it is secondary to all this other crap. He was able to read well enough to function in his business and read contracts etc.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
62. Yes, perhaps recent downswing? Yet he probably
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jul 2020

Has others reading contracts and telling him all ok. Remember reading that they had a very hard time getting him under control and looking business like and wise in Apprentice. Many takes. I'd like to watch that again. Maybe govt should hire apprentice directors to make him look presidential!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
26. In my office, I have always asked people to email me rather than call.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jul 2020

With emails, I have a paper trail and a way to jog my memory of a conversation. I can cut to the chase and dispense with frivolous discussions that eat into my valuable time.

But there are several clients that refuse to send emails. They insist on calling. It's been quite the nuisance.

However, when those people DO email me, I've noticed a pattern. None of them can write a coherent email. They can't spell, punctuate or use proper grammar. That's why they prefer the phone. It hides their shortcoming.

I can see why Trump prefers to yap rather than read or write. He's probably dyslexic, or impaired in some other way.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
29. Noel Casler who worked on Celebrity Apprentice said that Trump's dyslexic and always had trouble
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jul 2020

reading his cue cards. He'd fly into an absolute rage at 3 syllable words.

Greg Olear: Let’s start with your bona fides. You were a staffer at The Apprentice, which with its Celebrity Apprentice incarnation was on TV for much longer than I’d remembered. Donald John Trump hosted the show from 2004-2015, so he really did jump from that job to the presidency, which seems even more preposterous when I type it out. How long were you working there, and what did your job duties involve?

Noel Casler: I was on Celebrity Apprentice for six seasons of the Finale Tapings. I initially took the gig on a lark. A friend of mine had been given the job of Talent Executive for the first season of CA, which has shot in SNL’s Studio 8H. She needed some experienced talent handlers, which is what I had done for most of my career in live TV, starting in 1993 on the Kennedy Center Honors. So I was assigned to the Celebrity Talent, basically making sure they get delivered to the DGA Stage Managers on time for their live “hit,” and dealing with all their needs backstage. That first year I was assigned to Piers Morgan. In subsequent years I handled the musical performers, such as Cyndi Lauper. Then for the final three seasons, I was Ivanka Trump’s exclusive handler. That’s when the fun really began, LOL.

GO: We’ll get to Ivanka in a second. First: like most Twitterers, I read your feed with astonishment. “How can he get away with saying this stuff?” I say to myself. So let me ask point-blank: How can you get away with saying this stuff? Didn’t you sign an NDA?

NC: I say what I say because it’s true. Trump knows it is true. During the 2016 campaign, Mark Burnett threatened to sue anyone who had worked on the Apprentice crew. This caused many of my colleagues to fall silent. (They had been speaking out on Facebook—including former directors of the show— and I think word got back to him.) I told the HRC campaign what I knew, and at their behest, I told People Magazine. I address the NDA stuff in my stand up.

GO: Is Trump illiterate?

NC: He is severely dyslexic, and has been his entire life. Ivanka would joke about it off camera.

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/full-disclosure-an-interview-with

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
66. When I discovered Noel on Twitter I went back and read through all his tweets.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jul 2020

He has a ton of stories. There literally is no bottom with Trump; it always gets worse.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
45. Well that explains
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

why he has Ivanka around all the time. She protects him.

Unfit for office, and we all know how at risk we are now. So if this was anyone else he would be followed by a psychiatrist or some sort of facility. He's unwell mentally which we now know how at risk we all are.

The one question that all mental health professionals ask IS he a threat to himself and others.......YES HE IS.

llmart

(15,555 posts)
35. It also explains why Twitter is his medium of choice for communicating.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jul 2020

He doesn't have to write anything comprehensive. Twitter is a perfect forum for people like him.

malaise

(269,182 posts)
31. Mary is good - very good - this will piss him off
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020

'his ability to control unfavourable situations by lying, spinning, and obfuscating has diminished to the point of impotence in the midst of the tragedies we are currently facing.'

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
32. "if he is afforded a 2nd term, it would be the end of American democracy"
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jul 2020

I have believed that since the day Putin installed him.

Larissa

(790 posts)
48. About "The Sociopath Next Door"
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

My copy is rather dog-eared. It's a book that has helped me a great deal. Here is one of the best quotes from the book and may remind you of someone:

"When considering a new relationship of any kind, practice the Rule of Threes regarding the claims and promises a person makes, and the responsibilities he or she has. Make the Rule of Threes your personal policy.

One lie, one broken promise, or a single neglected responsibility may be a misunderstanding instead. Two may involve a serious mistake. But three lies says you're dealing with a liar, and deceit is the linchpin of conscienceless behavior. Cut your losses and get out as soon as you can. Leaving, though it may be hard, will be easier now than later, and less costly."

I keep Sociopath Next Door together along with these other reads, one of which literally saved my life. If you live long enough, you will encounter the sociopath, psychopath, malignant narcissist or the personality disordered.

The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker (this one saved me.)
The Adult Children of Alcoholics Syndrome by Wane Kritsberg
Without Conscience by Robert D. Hare, Ph.D.
People of The Lie by M. Scott Peck, MD
Freeing Yourself from the Narcissist in Your Life by Linda Martinez-Lewi, Ph.D.







Zorro

(15,749 posts)
60. Here's another tidbit from the book
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jul 2020

As a high school student in Queens, Ms. Trump writes, Donald Trump paid someone to take a precollegiate test, the SAT, on his behalf. The high score the proxy earned for him, Ms. Trump adds, helped the young Mr. Trump to later gain admittance as an undergraduate to the University of Pennsylvania’s prestigious Wharton business school.

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
77. My wife, an educational diagnostician, has always said
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jul 2020

that Donald Trump has some learning disabilities. Watching him attempt to read from the teleprompter makes it pretty obvious. That's why he ad-libs at his rallies.
Now we find out he paid someone to take his SATs for him? Makes even more sense.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
78. I agree. While I don't have a
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

Degree in education, I do have a degree and license in nursing. Nurses learn to observe, looking for details, tell-tale signs that his development was abnormal, and he uses coping skills to try to hide it. Plus, I have a grown son with developmental problems. I've talked to a number of speech therapists and disgnosticians who commented on him before I ever asked a question or brought trump up as a subject for discussion.***

Same thing with his personality disorder: my son's psychiatrist didn't followw politics until trump won. She said she and her colleagues had him labelled as a narcissist in about fifteen minutes of listening to him speak responsively to questions.


*** These same education professionals have made kind, compassionate, and discrete comments about Barron as well, saying he appears to be on the spectrum for ASD.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
85. If I can't be in the advanced copy club, I guess I should cancel my book order
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jul 2020

since I'm getting the gist of it for the next seven days.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
94. I hope the DSM-VI has a simple, understandable entry:
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 07:08 PM
Jul 2020
Malignant Trump Disorder: Cannot be cured or ameliorated. Best to leave them in the woods to be devoured by wolves. A real bastard, from stem to stern. Ref: Trump, Donald J.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
96. If anyone has not gathered these things in the last four years
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jul 2020

they are a die hard tRump supporter.

Their minds are closed off from reality.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
98. She's probably correct.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jul 2020

In 2016 Tony Schwartz, the real author of "The Art of the Deal", gave an enlightening interview to The New Yorker. He said that he couldn't get Trump to focus long enough for him to gather the information that he needed to write the book. He suggested shadowing Trump and he did so for 18 months. Schwartz said that he struggled to make Trump sympathetic, that he found the man to be a pathological liar who created his own reality. He called him a black hole in constant need of attention. He added that he feared not just for the country, but the world, if Trump became president. He finished by saying that Trump was a sociopath.


raging moderate

(4,309 posts)
103. I am about Trump's age. They did not diagnose our learning disabilities.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jul 2020

At least not officially. I also have a learning disability. Although I was poor, my mother knew to ask around and land us in a neighborhood with a very good school. I was lucky to be in a school with dedicated teachers. They worked together to help me anyway. Probably Trump was not so lucky. Let me tell you, having a learning disability feels so unfair. It feels like being cheated every day. You"know" you are as smart as everybody else, but somehow your math and writing come out all wrong. Probably Trump feels like the entire world is conspiring to make him look dumb. I was lucky. My teachers took time out of recess and lunch hour to explain it to me tactfully and pinpoint strategies I could use to minimize my disability. This was all unofficial. There was no official plan at the time. Still, I think that Trump should have figured this out by now, and learned to ask himself questions such as "Am I really qualified to be President of the United States?"

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
106. The book should have been "American Psychopath"...
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 02:46 AM
Jul 2020

....but that title was already taken....

OMFG....listening to the quotes and details that Rachel Maddow read tonight was incredible....

He is a psychopath. He is scary. He is evil.

I also believe Mary Trump, will along with the SCOTUS issuing a ruling that his taxes must be released be his undoing and his crimes revealed and confirmed.

I believe that Trump Tower and other properties will eventually belong to the State of New York for his tax crimes and will serve as a monument of his corrupt evil, although I wouldn’t object to it being torn down or better yet renamed “Black Lives Matter Tower”.

The truth will come out and this psychopath and his entire criminal enterprise family must be destroyed and put to a final end for this collective nightmare we have had to suffer.

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