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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsregarding Kanye West potentially siphoning off black votes
let's be reminded that our first black president referred to him as a jackass.
and publicize it if necessary.
UncleTomsEvilBrother
(945 posts)...a few things the DEMS need to do regarding the Black vote. Aggressively addressing voter suppression is only one of them.
I'm thinking any person, Black or otherwise, who votes for Kanye at this point wasn't going to vote in the first place. Kanye has money and will probably be encouraged by rightwingers. It won't go well for him, though.
With the Black Lives Matter marches happening, Black voters are more dialed in this term. I'm sure everybody sees this as a PR stunt.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I doubt there are many - if any - black voters who will think "I was going to vote for Biden but now that Kanye's running, I'm going to vote for him instead."
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)And, I really believe the MFs people and lots of GrOPers think itll work to siphon votes anyway because theyre THAT shallow and uninformed.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)Kanye might possibly be the only person with a bigger ego, and less ability than even Trump. Our brothers and sisters of color won't be fooled for a second. But Trump voters will think this is their salvation, because I'm sure you're right. His true believers are so shallow and (you were polite) stupid that I'm sure they really do think that "the blacks will vote for him because he's black". And you can't fix stupid.
Lonestarblue
(10,011 posts)Too many big corporations have gotten away with providing no health care for employees by denying them full-time hours. And those that dont his also force part-time employees to change their hours frequently, so even though they cant earn enough to pay their expenses on 30 hours a week, they have a hard time getting and keeping a second job because their hours are unpredictable.
Those working in the gig economy, which includes people of all ages and races, have no benefits either. Theyre classified as contractors, and there are legitimate jobs as contractors. The problem is that too many corporations get away with classifying people as contractors by artificially breaking work into independent jobs but in effect keeping the same people employed full time for years but not paying the benefits that those classified as full-time employees receive.
And we need the equivalent of a Marshall Plan for education. Our current system works mostly for wealthy white school districts. This plan should provide federal funding to supplement state funds by identifying the poorest school districts, often Black and Hispanic majority but also white rural districts, and ensuring they have the technology needed, the best teachers (perhaps paid a bonus to teach in poorer schools), and an expansion of early childhood education and Head Start.
Many people may question where we will get the money, but considering the school-to-prison pipeline from the poorest schools and the cost of incarceration, we can save a lot by helping educate kids to be productive citizens instead of denying them the skills and education that often lands them in jail.
Dems have a lot of work to do!
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Nothing more...#BeBest
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Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and the potential younger AAs, if they vote this year will go for VP Biden.
West is a partner in racism against AAs with shithole. I remember the movie "Django Unchained" wherein Samuel L. Jackson played a slave who was 100% in his master's corner, this is West.
CurtEastPoint
(18,649 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,799 posts)about an overpaid speed-talker?
Gothmog
(145,303 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)Furthermore, Kanye's appeal and fanbase is to millennials. So if you are going to worry about what vote he is going to be siphoning, its the millennial vote. That's his core audience. You should not be worrying about the " black vote".
It just goes to show how out of touch people are.
I think this is a nothing burger. Publicity for his next project.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I'm tired if people treating black voters like we're stupid.
Nitram
(22,813 posts)know that he'd make a terrible politician.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)who would say, "I was going to vote for Joe Biden. But now that Ye's running, I'm going to vote for HIM."
And any non-voter who decides to suddenly decides to vote because Kanye's running won't make a difference in the race.
But I do have a feeling that, if it gets to a vote, Kanye will probably get more votes from white people than black folk. We know he's a fool.
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)just based on them being white? I betcha more than the number of black folks that would vote for Kanye just because he's black.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)Theyll vote for them because they are racists.
jrthin
(4,836 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)White people, the "White Vote" are voting for Trump...
Quixote1818
(28,946 posts)to vote for him.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)They dont usually throw their votes away.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #8)
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MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)They cant afford to. Black voters have, however, been the voters who have saved our asses more than once...like in 2018.
mucifer
(23,549 posts)Afromania
(2,769 posts)Gothmog
(145,303 posts)Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)That's how many.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)is perhaps the second stupidest thing ever done in the USA.
Nature Man
(869 posts)we're not children.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)richdj25
(163 posts)Kanye fans don't vote. Doubt if any of them have ever registered.
Nitram
(22,813 posts)be a good candidate for president. A lot of Kanye fans will vote, but I expect very few would consider voting for him after his ridiculous performance in the Oval Office with Trump.
richdj25
(163 posts)but this guys fan base truly isn't inclined to know what good policy is let alone vote. 2016 was a prime example of people sitting it out.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)😁
ancianita
(36,066 posts)No worries. Everyone I know who's a Yeezy fan is a Democrat and would never in a million years vote for Yeezy. But they probably like the trolling.
Me, I think it's stupid. But I've still always liked his music.
Nitram
(22,813 posts)Kurt Cobaine for President!
Nitram
(22,813 posts)as a viable candidate for president. He clearly made a fool of himself in the Oval Office.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Many African Americans are not his fan base...again showing how out of touch folks are...
Nitram
(22,813 posts)music? Could you suggest a source where I could get a better idea of West's popularity among African-Americans? I haven't been able to find one.
ancianita
(36,066 posts)if not 100%. Just sayin'.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)is equally as harmful...
Nitram
(22,813 posts)And could you provide a link to data about what percent of AA's like Kanye's music? Stereotypes are usually based on a lack of information. I wish to be better informed.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)He probably thinks you can just announce that you're running, and automatically be added.
He is probably the spoiler candidate that Republicans are looking for though.
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Few on the right would vote for Kanye over Trump, and by the time the general election occurs, most people would know that he is a Trump supporter, so few on the left would vote for him.
ancianita
(36,066 posts)serious.
This is branding and PR. He started this claim in 2015. I still have the Yeezy2020 T-shirt. He's just sticking with the old hype, not the least bit serious, and no movement potential. It's a substitute for live summer performances. He might do a show for the RNC just to piss Democrats off.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)ancianita
(36,066 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)I would not vote for Will Farrell if he were running for president of the U.S.
Larissa
(790 posts). . . by running as a spoiler. It's unlikely Kanye will pull votes after all the shucking and jiving he's been doing for Trump.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Tiger8
(432 posts)It shows that Trump is both desperate AND stupid.
Seriously, this is so stupid that Hitler would be insulted at any comparisons between him and Drumpf.
niyad
(113,336 posts)I describe myself as a "Nancy Pelosi Democrat" who is normally just an observer and voter. But this election got me volunteering, donating. Our lives are at stake.
niyad
(113,336 posts)nsd
(2,406 posts)... will vote for Kanye West.
The guy was endorsed by Elon Musk. How more cartoonish could this candidacy be?
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)Jspur
(578 posts)stupid lol. You guys have to be nuts to believe that he could still votes from them. I have joked around with black people the last few years about Kanye West since he came out supporting Trump. All the black people I have talked to view Kanye as a nutcase and a traitor. If anything he might siphon off black votes from Trump in the sense some of these Uncle Toms might vote for him instead.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)some of the responses in the thread surprise me to say the least..
ancianita
(36,066 posts)Dukkha
(7,341 posts)His name will never appear on a ballot. He'll never gets the signatures required, at least in the swing states that matter.
Azathoth
(4,610 posts)White, black, any color. A certain subset of them -- usually male, not always -- have no understanding of political issues or the political system but are nonetheless convinced it's all rotten and needs to be "shaken up". A pop culture entertainer like Trump or Kanye who behaves like a human hand grenade can be appealing to those kinds of know-nothing weekend anarchists.
Kanye's stunt probably won't go anywhere, but if he did get his name on the ballot, there *would* be votes for him.