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OMG Peter Navarro on MSNBC spouting conspiracies (Original Post) spinbaby Jul 2020 OP
OMG is right. What a total nut job. skylucy Jul 2020 #1
This guy is as slippery as they come! tenisfin Jul 2020 #45
So assume that China did do that. Which is nuts. But it would still be the Presidents job to usaf-vet Jul 2020 #47
Holy fuck... demmiblue Jul 2020 #2
and he is massively pushing Hydroxychloroquine STILL Celerity Jul 2020 #3
Is Ali Letting Him Get Away With His Junk Theories Me. Jul 2020 #4
Ali was disappointing. JaneQPublic Jul 2020 #16
He Does The Same With THat Hassert Guy Me. Jul 2020 #33
I Agree!! I had to turn it off and I usually like Ali's ResistantAmerican17 Jul 2020 #35
P.S. his hands are possessed. n/t demmiblue Jul 2020 #5
The Chinese Communist party is killing Americans spinbaby Jul 2020 #6
It undermines the narrative that tRump killed many Americans. Regardless of origins, tRump inaction Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #39
Now navarro is trying to push OneBlueDotBama Jul 2020 #7
He's trying to unload the huge stockpile he acquired on our dime. PA Democrat Jul 2020 #11
It's become irresponsible to let these assholes have any air time. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #8
My thoughts exactly. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #31
+100000000000000000000 CloudWatcher Jul 2020 #38
That was lunacy on steroids malaise Jul 2020 #9
I started a thread on this also. Will delete mine and add.... PA Democrat Jul 2020 #10
Hmmmmm Hstch05 Jul 2020 #36
Aside from its distraction value thucythucy Jul 2020 #12
Spot on! central scrutinizer Jul 2020 #17
Those are good ways to play it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #40
He also trashed Dr. Fouci. But he does like the Trump toady Dr. Birx PA Democrat Jul 2020 #13
Using the term "weaponized" was nutso. PA Democrat Jul 2020 #14
Partial video for those who didn't watch: demmiblue Jul 2020 #15
Thank you spinbaby Jul 2020 #19
Yeah, China is responsible for what happens within our borders dalton99a Jul 2020 #18
Navarro's problem is that the virus affected the entire globe malaise Jul 2020 #21
+1. Navarro is a lying ashole who likes to make up shit dalton99a Jul 2020 #23
More video: demmiblue Jul 2020 #20
I was screaming at the radio in the car MacKasey Jul 2020 #22
Yikes, first Putin and now the Chinese. Time to increase that defense Budget! jalan48 Jul 2020 #24
delighted to see this thread Hamlette Jul 2020 #25
Job Ad in China - Nov 2019 lunasun Jul 2020 #26
My DVR was paused so I'm just seeing this. jayfish Jul 2020 #27
Trump did the same thing, using Navarro's logic Cicada Jul 2020 #28
I could not listen to him Katinfl Jul 2020 #29
Going Navarro bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #30
Get used to this for the next 4 months. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #32
Guessing Traildogbob Jul 2020 #34
The very last thing we need right now!! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #37
Birds of a feather......... vapor2 Jul 2020 #41
Self-delete--posted in wrong thread. tblue37 Jul 2020 #42
I couldn't believe what I was hearing lillypaddle Jul 2020 #43
I heard him say that Sunday too left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 #44
Velshi was a serious disappointment. Let him go on and on and on unchallenged. Maru Kitteh Jul 2020 #46
Illogical. China would have no interest in killing their consumers. radius777 Jul 2020 #48
so... we buy like a trillion $ per year of stuff from China............ Takket Jul 2020 #49

tenisfin

(36 posts)
45. This guy is as slippery as they come!
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jul 2020

Ali did as well as possible, but I have yet to see an interviewer who doesn't fall into his traps. He diffuses conflict by saying

"sure, sure" then changes the subject as nimbly as Kellyanne and Kaley, then gallops and gishes with the best of them. And he NEVER stops talking! He's a menace!

usaf-vet

(6,194 posts)
47. So assume that China did do that. Which is nuts. But it would still be the Presidents job to
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:45 PM
Jul 2020

respond and prevent the spread by all means possible. While establishing a measured response.

So let me get this straight if some foreign enemy launched a missile at the US but it fell 5 miles short and landed in the ocean this president would do what.

A. launch a retaliatory strike to land 5 miles short of a foreign land.
B. completely lie about what happened and calling the news reports "fake news".
C. go and play golf.
D. tweet outrageous insults calling it Obama's fault.
E. watch Faux news to see what they tell him to do.
F. ALL of the above, pointing out that he is a war president with big-a-brain.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
16. Ali was disappointing.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jul 2020

I expected Ali to call Navarro on his BS, but all Ali did was repeatedly ask, "Do you really believe that?"

Ali also let him filibuster far too long uninterrupted.

Joy would've handed Navarro's head to him on a platter.

ResistantAmerican17

(3,810 posts)
35. I Agree!! I had to turn it off and I usually like Ali's
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020

tenacity. He got walked on like cheap pile carpet. Those footprints are going to be there awhile. Navarro just gasbags on and on

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
39. It undermines the narrative that tRump killed many Americans. Regardless of origins, tRump inaction
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jul 2020

Regardless of origins, tRump failed to defend American lives by his inaction and by his actions downplaying the risks. A very leaky shutdown of China flights, with no screening of the tens of thousands who got through. A much too late shutdown of Europe and even later of UK flights.

Plus his confiscation of PPE and monopoly of Remdesivir. The PPE has yet to be distributed, despite some being sent to Russia.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
31. My thoughts exactly.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jul 2020

They get enough airtime to spout their bullshit on Faux News, and the rest of the gutless media. I don't know why MSNBC continues to give these nutjobs exposure.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
10. I started a thread on this also. Will delete mine and add....
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

Peter Navarro was spewing cray conspiracy theories including:

Inferring China created the virus and INTENTIONALLY spread it

Said China "weaponized" the virus

Pushing the recent study which says hydroxychloroquine

"The Chinese Communist party is responsible for every bad thing we are experiencing right now."

WTF??????

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
12. Aside from its distraction value
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jul 2020

(and I suppose money for Navarro for spouting this nonsense) I can't see how this in any way helps Trump.

Supposing it's true (which of course it isn't) doesn't this mean that Trump has absolutely botched the response to an attack on American civilians by a foreign power? It's like if FDR had responded to Pearl Harbor by sinking our aircraft carriers. If anything, Trump has made things worse.

Maybe someone should ask Navarro, given Trump's pathetic response, does he think maybe Trump is a paid agent of the Chinese?

No, scratch that. It's better that this wannabe demagogue not be given air time at all.

central scrutinizer

(11,659 posts)
17. Spot on!
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jul 2020

If anything it is more damning. Did China force BMI 45 to do nothing except golf and hold rallies for two plus months instead of preparing for the pandemic? Remember he boasted that he knew it was a pandemic before anybody else. Yet did nothing but minimize it to protect his beloved Dow-Jones

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
14. Using the term "weaponized" was nutso.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jul 2020

He tried to weasel his way out of that bizarre claim by adding whether "intentional or not". That was worthy of a Q-Anon podcast.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
21. Navarro's problem is that the virus affected the entire globe
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jul 2020

but the Con and the rest of them thought they could pretend it would go away.
The absence of a plan is why the figures are what they are today. What's more the Con and his goons ignored all the guidelines from their own agencies.

Ali should have cut him off - it was as bad as spreading BS conspiracies on Facebook or Twitter.

dalton99a

(81,565 posts)
23. +1. Navarro is a lying ashole who likes to make up shit
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.axios.com/peter-navarro-ron-vara-economist-made-up-76c26045-52b8-4a4b-8a3b-b619d4284293.html

Top Trump administration economic adviser Peter Navarro made up an economist he has quoted regularly in his books named Ron Vara, Tom Bartlett writes in The Chronicle of Higher Education.

"Those who know Navarro well, [Greg] Autry says, were fully aware that Ron Vara was a phony source who often popped up in his books. He said Vara was Navarro’s 'alter ego,' an 'everyman character' who dispenses cutesy business aphorisms as well as dire warnings about Chinese food."

Ron Vara happens to be an anagram of Navarro's last name.

That's just one of many interesting details about the character who Navarro once wrote placed short bets against the stocks of 2 nuclear power-reliant companies literally 2 days before the worst nuclear disaster in human history at Chernobyl.

There's more: Navarro similarly quoted Leslie LeBon when writing about the dangers of China, who a Google book search revealed is his wife.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
25. delighted to see this thread
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jul 2020

I was watching and wondered if I was the only one who was going nuts.

He is a liar. Like his boss. I think they just go on TV and are told to keep talking so they don't get called on their lack of logic.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
26. Job Ad in China - Nov 2019
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:18 PM
Jul 2020

Wanted : People to get infected with a potentially lethal virus and carry the disease to the United Staes to take down trump

100000 positions needed to be filled ASAP

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
27. My DVR was paused so I'm just seeing this.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jul 2020

I had to run over to see if anyone here was talking about it. ...one of the straight-up craziest things I've ever seen. It boiled down to "
China Weaponized CV-19 and infected us on purpose" and "Ehhh.... I got this Hydroxychloroquine ov'a he'a." Here's a, close to direct, quote. "The Chinese Communist Party is responsible for all the bad things happening to us." ...yup.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
28. Trump did the same thing, using Navarro's logic
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jul 2020

If you hide the seriousness of the virus then you might be accused of “sending out” infected people you know will infect others. China was not open about the virus at first. But Trump also underplayed the virus. China and Trump did the same thing.

Katinfl

(158 posts)
29. I could not listen to him
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jul 2020

I muted him but was disappointed in Ali. Navarro was saying all this crap and Ali was just letting him go on and on. Maybe Ali just figured he would just give him enough rope and he will hang himself. Just like the media is giving trump all the air space he wants. I just pray he spews hand himself. I hate him.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
32. Get used to this for the next 4 months.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jul 2020

They have decided to go all in on fear and conspiracy.

It won’t work.

Traildogbob

(8,790 posts)
34. Guessing
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

Trump has given up on Jinese help in this election. So he will create the image of them being a deadly enemy, THEN claim they hijacked Biden landslide, call on his courts to throw out the results and have one congress person in each state vote, and he retaines power. All legal.

vapor2

(1,249 posts)
41. Birds of a feather.........
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jul 2020

Pompeo spends our tax dollars flying around the world chasing nothing but conspiracy theories and Lindsey is another

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
43. I couldn't believe what I was hearing
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jul 2020

the guy is as loony as trump. OMG. No wonder we are in big trouble.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
46. Velshi was a serious disappointment. Let him go on and on and on unchallenged.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jul 2020

Navarro got a free segment to spew batshit crazy CT and peddle hydroxychloroquine.

Terrible.


radius777

(3,635 posts)
48. Illogical. China would have no interest in killing their consumers.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:52 PM
Jul 2020

China is basically the factory for the world, and would have nothing to gain and everything to lose from 'intentionally' spreading a global pandemic.

Now, they were irresponsible, and should have better measures/practices to prevent animal-to-human virus transmission - but that is another discussion.

Takket

(21,607 posts)
49. so... we buy like a trillion $ per year of stuff from China............
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:54 PM
Jul 2020

so China, logically, decided to cripple our economy with a virus so Americas will severely curtail their spending habits..... because why? because China wanted to ruin their own economy too?

These idiots...........

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