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struggle4progress

(118,320 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:35 PM Jul 2020

Ugly new spin actually incriminates him

Greg Sargent
July 1, 2020 at 10:33 a.m. EDT

... Trump is now defending himself not just by claiming he wasn’t briefed on that intelligence, or just by contesting the significance of that intelligence. Instead .. he’s suggesting no intelligence ever actually indicated anything like this.

... this defense is itself deeply self-incriminating. It only underscores what critics are saying — that at minimum, Trump should be taking this intelligence seriously and trying to get to the bottom of what it actually does indicate, even if the worst interpretation proves wrong ...

... moments later Trump reposted a tweet vowing to veto the Defense Authorization Bill if it renames military installations named after Confederate generals. This juxtaposed Trump’s defense of monuments to traitors alongside his blithe unconcern about a foreign power potentially paying for the killing of Americans ...

Reports have indicated that Trump actually was provided with a written briefing on this intelligence — which he probably didn’t read. The White House has cagily said Trump wasn’t directly briefed without saying whether he was given a written briefing, while insisting that of course he reads what’s presented to him ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/01/trumps-ugly-new-spin-russia-bounties-actually-incriminates-him/

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Ugly new spin actually incriminates him (Original Post) struggle4progress Jul 2020 OP
Every hour GOP allows the TRAITOR to stay there they prove who they are. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #1
Trump is protecting dead traitors on pedestals, but not live patriots on deployment. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
Beyond words...no words left. NOT that HE would do this, of course he would Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #21
Also, Associated Press reported that John Bolton personally Mike 03 Jul 2020 #2
Over 1 year ago? If true, that looks really bad ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #12
"Trump is the most informed person on planet earth when it comes to the threats that we face." - sop Jul 2020 #3
Hey, komrade kkupcake, the stuffed dragon sitting on my bed is more informed than traitor don niyad Jul 2020 #7
Hey MAGAninny, I did not realize that. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #14
"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink." pazzyanne Jul 2020 #17
Oh, sure. SergeStorms Jul 2020 #18
Fucking momo. 7wo7rees Jul 2020 #4
I saw that. ZenDem Jul 2020 #5
Most people scramble when they realize they are out of the loop. forgotmylogin Jul 2020 #6
He missed a series of emails for a year and a half? What, put DNI and NSC in the killfile? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #15
Just like the Virus. AwakeAtLast Jul 2020 #22
I think some on Twitter said Trump called the intel ... are you ready ... "a hoax"! bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #8
It's the only word he knows. And he knows all the best words. n/t aggiesal Jul 2020 #16
This jackass literally has no idea what it means to be president. aquamarina Jul 2020 #9
Does he even WANT to be president any more? mwb970 Jul 2020 #10
The whole Republican party is complicit in enabling this traitor IronLionZion Jul 2020 #11
But the judges! SergeStorms Jul 2020 #19
Have y'all seen this? Hestia Jul 2020 #20

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
1. Every hour GOP allows the TRAITOR to stay there they prove who they are.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jul 2020

GOP are our actual, physical enemies.

They are trying to kill our soldiers (if they cared about those soldiers they would remove traitor today, they wont) and us. They are using the virus now, purposely NOT stopping it, to kill us.

Hey republicans, why do you want to kill so many of us?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
21. Beyond words...no words left. NOT that HE would do this, of course he would
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jul 2020

But you 45 million followers are the problem.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. Also, Associated Press reported that John Bolton personally
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jul 2020

briefed Trump on the bounties in March 2019.

The assessment was included in at least one of President Donald Trump’s written daily intelligence briefings at the time, according to the officials. Then-national security adviser John Bolton also told colleagues he briefed Trump on the intelligence assessment in March 2019.


https://apnews.com/425e43fa0ffdd6e126c5171653ec47d1

Bolton declined comment. Bolton needs to get up off his ass!!!

aggiesal

(8,921 posts)
12. Over 1 year ago? If true, that looks really bad ...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jul 2020

But with this non-military caring racist in the WH, it wouldn't matter

sop

(10,226 posts)
3. "Trump is the most informed person on planet earth when it comes to the threats that we face." -
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jul 2020

Kayleigh McEnany.

niyad

(113,510 posts)
7. Hey, komrade kkupcake, the stuffed dragon sitting on my bed is more informed than traitor don
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
18. Oh, sure.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jul 2020

After both Doctors and Scientists told him in person, "Do not stare directly at the eclipse without wearing eye protection. You could permanently damage your eyes", what does the "most informed person on the planet" do? THE "MOST INFORMED PERSON ON THE PLANET" STARES DIRECTLY AT THE ECLIPSE WEARING NO EYE PROTECTION!

It doesn't matter what he's told. It doesn't matter what he reads. He has absolutely no cognitive awareness of his surroundings whatsoever. His brain short-circuits and he can't remember anything he was told only moments before. He shouldn't be allowed to paint the White House, let alone reside there and pretend he's qualified to be President of the United States of America.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
5. I saw that.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jul 2020

I'm not sure if it's mental illness, arrogance, stupidity or a magical combo of all of the above. He doesn't care if anyone knows he's lying. He only cares that he has a group of zombies willing to follow him off the cliff.

If this was a movie, I'd be waiting for the Bat Signal.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
6. Most people scramble when they realize they are out of the loop.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jul 2020

"Oh, I missed an important email, whoops. Let me catch up and get back on it because this is important."

I45 missed the memo, and instead of responding with due importance on high priority like a normal person, pretends like it never existed. Just because you missed the initial warning of a fire in the building doesn't mean you should dally in getting the heck out of the building once you do know.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
8. I think some on Twitter said Trump called the intel ... are you ready ... "a hoax"!
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

He's got several screws loose. Everything he comes in contact with he goes against it. Permanent, hard-wired, reflexive gaslighting. So macho he knows everything, has perfect insight and judgment, and never has to guess because he is never wrong.

This is one sick f*ck!

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
9. This jackass literally has no idea what it means to be president.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jul 2020

He has a responsibility, a fucking duty to be engaged and to know what the fuck is going on.

Flat out dereliction of duty.

IronLionZion

(45,494 posts)
11. The whole Republican party is complicit in enabling this traitor
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jul 2020

enough of them knew about this and refuse to hold him accountable

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. But the judges!
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jul 2020

That's it in a nutshell. They want him to imprint the republican brand of fascism upon the federal government while he can. They know his time is almost over, but in the meantime they want total slash and burn republican politics tainting everything.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
20. Have y'all seen this?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:18 PM
Jul 2020
Russian Bounties for Killing Americans Go Back Five Years, Ex-Taliban Claims
Sami Yousafzai, Adam Rawnsley, Christopher Dickey, Erin Banco 50 mins ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-bounties-for-killing-americans-go-back-five-years-ex-taliban-claims/ar-BB16dpDF?

“The Russians paying U.S. dollars—it’s not odd for the Taliban,” he said, his voice fraught with irony over the encrypted phone call as he recalled the Airstan incident. As for the current situation, “The Taliban have been paid by Russian intelligence for attacks on U.S. forces—and on ISIS forces—in Afghanistan from 2014 up to the present.”

In the world of intelligence gathering, such a statement from such a figure would be worth noting, and just the kind of thing that could lead to what the Drumpf White House has called “inconclusive” reporting the Russian offer of bounties to kill Americans.

Mullah Manan Niazi was a very senior figure in the Taliban when they were in power, and also when they were driven into exile and underground after 2001. But since the death of Mullah Omar was made public in 2015, he has been a dissident and liable to be killed by the current Taliban leadership if it catches up with him. They have accused him of collaborating with the CIA and the Afghan government’s intelligence service, the National Directorate of Security (NDS), which he denies.

So, Niazi speaks as someone who knows the organization and its top people very well, but who also has an agenda very different from theirs, with his own reasons for confirming the bounty story, and he does not offer further specifics on that. But he does offer details about what he says are the longstanding ties between the Taliban and the Russians as well as the Iranians, and U.S. officials have been tracking those developments.


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