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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust tied a right-winger up in knots on fb!
Talking about the SCOTUS decision the right-winger says, you are either for life, or you are not. I ask him, do you wear a mask out in public? He replies, what concern is it of yours? Im talking about abortion. I say, Pregnant women are being told that transmission of COVID-19 from mother to fetus cannot be ruled out. When you go out without a mask, you are taking a risk of infecting a pregnant woman, and possibly killing her and her unborn child. Anyone claiming an anti-abortion stance and not wearing a mask is a hypocrite beyond all hypocrites.
Him: crickets
iamateacher
(1,089 posts)soldierant
(6,857 posts)I would have said, "Anyone not wearing a mask may be an unwitting abortionist." But I'm just a bit OCD about turning their own words against them, and "hypocrite" no longer seems to make much of a dent from whee I see it. I might even make it "forced abortionist," depending on the context.
Srkdqltr
(6,276 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,933 posts)when dealing with a deplorable, is a stalemate. Well done.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)I'm wondering, though, just how much of your little talk he actually understood?
Of course, we understand it just fine!
But if he wasn't really listening, then he could have easily gotten lost..........
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)about that and war. He didnt want to talk about it. Lol.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)are opposed to abortion. Oddly enough, a lot of them are enthusiastic supporters of the death penalty.
Ohiogal
(31,989 posts)They always say.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)The pro-fetus crowd has been allowed to kidnap and try to redefine the term "pro-life." When they try to redefine I always respond with, "Oh, so I get it. You are only pro-fetus,"
THEM: "Well, adoption is a better answer."
ME: "OK, how many kids have you adopted?"
Words have meaning.
Ohiogal
(31,989 posts)Nothing makes me more angry than when they say adoption is better. No, it is not better. Going through 9 months of pregnancy and then giving birth isnt exactly a walk in the park. (I should know, Ive done it three times). Some women are not emotionally or physically able to go through with it. Some women do not have the ability to pay for medical care. But regardless of those reasons, no woman should be forced by the government to undergo pregnancy and birth. Its none of the governments GD business. Dont believe in abortion, then dont have one.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Greater than supply when it comes to adoption. So thats not a good argument. Turning it personal is fallacious too. Its like when they tell us we should take illegal immigrants into our homes.
The reason adoption in not a solution is the nine months, the stress, risks of childbirth and mainly that it is the womans body and her decision.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Evidence, rational thought and critical thinking is not among their skill set.
They are idealogue's and tribalist's.
They give, not one flying fuck about reality.
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)is pro-military too? If he thinks hes pro-life then he ought to be plenty pissed off about the bounty Putin put on our soldiers lives. Or is he just a phony pro-fetus kinda guy.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)brewens
(13,582 posts)many people that likely know they brought the virus in and killed someone. They believed Trump, Hannity and the rest of the collaborators and got loved ones killed. I suspect we'll be hearing about some, but most won't admit it.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)With the above reply.
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)already born and whose lives the unmasked person threatens.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)czarjak
(11,269 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Congratulations.........................................................................!!!
rateyes
(17,438 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Hell be back. Just give him a minute.
Blue Montana
(13 posts)First off I'd like to say hello and nice to meet you. You sound like a person with a very good outlook. As to FB. I boycott it completely, and whining maga's, I have not the patience for such ignorance. I applaud you for being able to tolerate it long enough to make your statement. Usually it's like talking to a rock when you come across one of those trumper's. I block all of them on twitter and more than likely will never acknowledge them if I come across them in this forum which I assume is not possible. Is it?
Anyway, I salute you for standing up for women's rights and for pointing out logical points to health and safety. A very intelligent reply to an awful maga person and an even worse biased situation. Your patience is to be commended. You sound like a #TheResistance family member for sure.
phylny
(8,380 posts)Blue Montana
(13 posts)Thanks so much for welcoming me. I appreciate it. Please be safe, have a beautiful day and stay healthy.
Karadeniz
(22,513 posts)A way that doesn't cost them money, personal commitment, or real effort.
crickets
(25,969 posts)More than just shutting him up, you may have gotten him to stop and think. Unlikely, but you never know.
keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)Republicans are in favor of killing living babies and have done so.
Pro-life is a myth.
The supposed pro-lifers cared naught when the state of Texas (republican gov, republican Prez) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.
It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.
It is a matter of control.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Once said life pops out its on its own.
The reich has no concern for human life except for how it can get them votes.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)None of us get out alive, pluseez.
Grins
(7,217 posts)...in 1918 the death rate for pregnant women and women with infants was SEVERAL TIMES HIGHER than the general population. There was a huge spike in the number of fathers left alone to care for any kids, and orphanages filled up.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)volstork
(5,400 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)He just wants to control both of them.
Sadly, he doesn't want anyone to control him, not even a smidge, not even to wear a mask.
These folks are 100% ego, 0% empathy.
progree
(10,904 posts)So if someone comes along and yammers about all of the blastulas and zygotes being murdered, ask them why Trump and his Trumpies don't care about children dying..
By the way, the same article says the total number of Americans (including adults) losing health insurance between 2017 and 2018 was 1.9 million -- truly an American genocide in progress.
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AMERICAN GENOCIDE: somewhere around 15,000 Americans died between the years 2014 and 2017 as a result of states that turned down the money available to them from the federal government through the provisions of the ACA - paper by 4 scholars published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, 7/23/19
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212306164
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Trump and the vast vast majority of Republicans in Congress attempted American Genocide in 2017:
This Wikipedia articles covers both the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Health_Care_Act_of_2017
H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 5/24/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
would increase the number of people who are uninsured by 23 million in 2026 relative to current law.
H.R. 1628, Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 6/26/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849
A little bit better: leaving 22 million uninsured in 2026 relative to current law.
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And no, emergency rooms are not comprehensive health care -- they do just enough to stabilize you and then give you a fistful of prescriptions that you can't afford to fill, and a bunch of referrals to doctors and specialists that you can't afford to see if you are like most uninsured. And I'm not talking about some aberrant ones that have been in a news, wheeling someone out onto the sidewalk and leaving them there. No, no, no, I'm talking about ALL of them. ALL.
videohead5
(2,172 posts)Than human life. We have done seen that. They could care less about the elderly and anyone with underlying health problems. They just wanted to get the economy going again. Their arguments ring hollow.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)Over
People
live love laugh
(13,104 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Xolodno
(6,390 posts)A lot of right wingers exhibit that trait. One right winger I know commented on abortion and how it should end. I responded by saying "are you ready for your taxes to go up?". He looked at me weird and asked how is that related.
I told him that there would be a huge increase of single mothers, families with not enough means to support the child, etc. It will strain the social welfare programs, so more taxes will be needed to indemnify them.
If that doesn't happen, expect to get robbed on a frequent basis, as they will need money to survive. Oh and your insurance premiums will surge. So you are still paying for it. But it gets even better, if they get caught and go to prison, you taxes will either go up to incarcerate them....or they will slash funding in other areas. Be prepared to buy new tires more often. And the child will no doubt end up in CPS. So your taxes get hit again with foster parents getting paid.
Didn't bother with the "dead women in alleys and storage units due to a botched abortion" argument. It usually sparks their moral high ground defense. But when you hit them in the wallet, suddenly, reason washes over them.
they don't care about women, but they do care about money
Orrex
(63,208 posts)As soon as that asshole remembers that Conservatives don't actually give a shit about pregnancy except to the extent that it lets them control women, your excellent point will have no impact on him.
He'll probably scoff and say something fucking stupid like "apples and oranges."
Because Conservatives are fucking stupid. Especially the ones lurking here from their various circle jerk cesspit forums.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)There is a building on fire. There are two rooms. One with 12 children (ages 3-8) and the other a freezer containing 1000's of embryos. You ONLY have time to save one room. Which do they save?
Watch their eyes gloss over.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)Celerity
(43,340 posts)power to force them to do shit. That goes for the women forced birthers too. They love being dommed out by buybull-ordained kings of the castle.
bluboid
(560 posts)Brilliant post.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)Lot of water has passed under the bridge in the past 20 years. Divorced, remarried, traveled to Europe twice, got all my daughters off the payroll. Retired from one career, now teaching HS math and coaching. How have you been?? Good to see you!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)rateyes
(17,438 posts)Tribetime
(4,692 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Sorry, I just do not get that.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)Simple as that!
lark
(23,097 posts)I will absolutely remember that and use it, it's so good and spotights their lying inhuman hypocrisy.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)I mean, if you're "for life", that includes everyone around you. The hypocrisy and stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze me.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Their concern ends at birth.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)But that ONLY includes whatever's inside a woman's private parts. And that's the extent of it.
The lives of black people.
The lives of other POC. - Latinos, Asians, and many more.
The lives of poor people.
The lives of people who don't donate to their campaigns, or vote for Democrats.
The lives of people in blue states.
The lives of children - especially immigrant children (caged or not).
The lives of people in urban areas.
The lives of Democrats in general.
And the list goes on. With him, it's a list that's freakin' ENDLESS.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)I'm getting a warm fuzzy feeling every time I see a "My body, my choice" sign on one of the Trump anti-mask idiots. Suddenly they're all pro-choice, right?
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Will buy you a cup of coffee. Political arguments on Facebook are a complete waste of time and energy.