Hmm... Wingnut admits defeat?

[EarlG]

Due to my job as "guy who runs a political discussion forum" I'm frequently inundated with absolutely nonsensical spam from wingnuts who like to blast their ridiculous opinions out in the form of mass emails. Such emails are often Q-infected racist/anti-semitic gobbledegook, and end up tossed in the trashcan pretty much 100% of the time. (Not always though -- before you ask, yes, I will try to do another Hate Mailbag sometime soon.)

Today though, I happened to receive the latest from a guy who has had me included on his pro-Trump mailing list for a while, and dare I say that this latest missive smells like... defeat???

(Disclaimer: the following contains the insane opinions of a Trump supporter)

Subject: "VOTING IS FOR FOOLS"

With the Rule of the Mob going virtually unchallenged, the actual value of voting moves from the perfunctory to the inane. At the moment, The Mob decides almost everything. I had a refrigerator repairman come to my home to fix my ailing fridge. We got talking and he said his "conservative sister" owns a shop downtown and she had to spray "BLM" on her plywooded store front as a way of having it destroyed and looted. How do election hep her, or the millions of others like her, from sea to shining sea. We're slipping into a Mad Max sequel and the further we slip, the less important elections, with or without voter fraud, become.

A newly neutered Trump seems impotent to stop The Mob except in the immediate precincts around the White House and the National Mall. The rest of the nation is on its own. If an election would bring order out of this nascent inchoate chaos, I would be all for it; but that seems unlikely. The "Cancel Culture" is more powerful than any politician and is far more influential than any political party........and they do so without any elections involved.

Think about this; the Democrats' presumptive presidential nominee, who thinks he is running for the Senate, just yesterday reminded his supporters that 120 million Americans have already died from Covid-19. Is that it? A mentally crippled future president who is building a massive lead over the much maligned sitting president? This is what the upcoming election is about? We might do better with a"random candidate selector" using SSN's and decide the winner of the election using a series of a thousand coin flips. Head or tails, winner take all. Chances are, we'd be better served than what we have now.

I've spent a decade working on improving election integrity; have found thousands of cases of fraudulent voting, exposed various methods of election tampering, and worked with many others to recommend changes that might reduce the vulnerabilities endemic to the system, vulnerabilities which are especially egregious in some states, like my own.

Perhaps society has become too complex for elections. Perhaps there is a confluence of interests that conspire to render most elections a ruse because it matters not whom wins. In Vegas, it doesn't matter which game you gamble with - the house always wins. Never forget that. The days of Americans voting to decide what happens to and with the country are largely over. This is a long winded way to say, I agree with Tucker Carlson, voting is for fools, which makes my work pointless

(edited to remove long boring excerpt from Breitbart)

...a good, hard dose of the alternate reality spelled out by Tucker above might be the perfect medicine to inflict on the Left at this point. I’d stand up and cheer to see it, whether it was done as a corrective measure pour encourager les autres, self-defense against their revolutionary violence, or nothing more than simple bloody-minded vengeance.

It couldn’t be clearer that simply sitting idly by in the name of a misguided “tolerance” while a toxic Marxist infestation was allowed to run rampant through American government, institutions, and culture has yielded disastrous results. If a dictatorship we must have, we’d better make damned sure it’s one that works in our favor, not theirs.

So I have two takeaways from this. This first is that the RW is openly fantasizing about committing violent acts of revenge against "the left" -- but that's nothing really new. What's new to me is the tone of this email -- it's clearly written by someone who is expecting to lose, and is planning what to do when he does lose.

In other words, RW morale is in the toilet. The above is from a guy who is so into political activism he sends out dozens of emails a week to thousands of people who didn't even ask for them. And here he is, four months before the election, in despair, talking about how it's pointless to vote and his side might as well move straight on to the mass murder and concentration camps.

Not only are they losing, their base knows they are losing.

Keep up the good work everyone.

[Zorro]

1. And he probably calls himself an "American patriot"

As an aside, it seems that they're the ones always waving the American flag at their demonstrations; we should be doing that, too.

[JHB]

3. ...and calls /other/ people "low information voters"

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[House of Roberts]

4. I'd like to see proof of any of this.

I've spent a decade working on improving election integrity; have found thousands of cases of fraudulent voting, exposed various methods of election tampering, and worked with many others to recommend changes that might reduce the vulnerabilities endemic to the system, vulnerabilities which are especially egregious in some states, like my own.

[snort]

5. No no. Critical thinking need not apply.

Just take his word for it.

[stillcool]

6. I'd like to see those.."thousands of cases"

of fraudulent voting. I have read many studies through the years, and have never seen 'fraudulent voting' as a method of election tampering. No organization that is seriously interested in election security would even mention it.


https://www.verifiedvoting.org/
https://www.brennancenter.org/issues

[ProfessorGAC]

16. Don't Hold Your Breath!

Investigations have happened many times.
It tends to be small, localized, and seems to revolve around rejection of valid votes more than tons of invalid votes counting.
The person who sent this to Earl likely made it up.

[mopinko]

22. there was a nutball that ran for alderman in my ward based on voter fraud

swore that hundreds, hundreds of people, i tell you, were voting registered in vacant lots and empty buildings.
but guess what? there are only a handful of vacant lots in the whole ward, and i own one of them, and it's a farm, and no one gets mail there.
the only time buildings go vacant is when they are gutted and rehabbed and that goes quick.
margins are slim.

needless to say he lost, but it was a squeaker.
because the angry is everywhere.

[UpInArms]

26. You reminded me of something

https://www.theledger.com/article/LK/20080910/News/608098864/LL

As America’s 41st president, George Herbert Walker Bush owned a 26-room mansion in Kennebunkport, Maine while he lived in that gleaming white Washington, D.C. public housing mansion at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. He spent lots of time in each place.

If the Bushes had called the White House their official residence, they would have had to pay $30,000 a year in District of Columbia income taxes. If the Bushes had declared their legal residence was their mansion in Kennebunkport, they’d have paid $29,000 a year in Maine’s income taxes. Yet they paid zero in state income tax.

That was because the Bushes listed as their permanent residence Houston, Texas, where there is no state income tax. You might think it was a problem that the Bushes had no permanent domicile in Houston - nothing owned or continuously rented; just a tiny vacant lot. No problem. President G. H. W. Bush listed as his official residence a suite in the Houstonian Hotel. Never mind that he paid for the suite only on the days he slept there. Texas law permitted Bush to call Houston home as long as he filed an affidavit saying he intended to make Houston his home upon retirement, which indeed he did.

[Caliman73]

20. Fraudulent voting my ass!

That is a conservative boogeyman. They want so hard to believe that tons of Democratic voters are shaving their beards and voting 2 and 3 times, that we pay undocumented people to vote under dead people's names, and that any of this is actually possible in numbers large enough to steal elections.

The sad thing is that there is elections fraud, like caging voters, gerrymandering, buying voting machines which leave no record and are easy to hack, closing down polling sites, etc... and the party that engages in all of those dirty tricks is the Republican party.

They project their own desires onto the Democratic Party at every turn.

[roamer65]

7. I hope these RW fools stay home and don't vote on November 3rd.

[Phoenix61]

8. Thanks for all you do! nt

[Demsrule86]

9. Thank you. this is so encouraging.

[Cirque du So-What]

10. Glad to hear that the Hate Mailbag is making a comeback

One of my many guilty pleasures

[RainCaster]

11. All that introspective knowledge, and they still can't spell

snowflakes

[Dem2theMax]

12. Did somebody say 'Hate Mailbag?'

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. If he has exposed thousands of cases of fraudulent voting, why are there only a few convictions a ye

... convictions a year, even in Republicon states?

[Chellee]

17. It's the deep state,

don'cha know.

[yonder]

14. A bit off topic but "Perhaps society has become too complex for elections."

should be "Perhaps elections have become too complex for society". Give voters a ballot with names, blank circles next to them and a Ticonderoga #2. That's all it should take after removing outside influences, unplugging the machines and vastly decreasing the campaign season and contributions. Maybe then that contributor to the OP's inbound mail could see the value in the democratic system we do have and which we are perilously close to losing.

[pwb]

15. Yea they know it. These fake tough guys

don't scare anybody.

[JDC]

18. A real Moron Manifesto - yes to the aforementioned Hate mailbag!

[ToxMarz]

19. My take was the dictatorship he is alluding to is the main point

This is why the right is so Gung ho with their unitary executive bull. At first it would seem only a fringe nutjiolb would want this, and that it would never seriously be allowed to come into existence. Congressmen would value their own power too much to give it away. But the rethugs know their days are numbered, but they also know how to steal and rig elections. Hard to do on the level of congress, too many seats. But to focus all their efforts on stealing one election (either strategically or at gunpoint) that held all the power, unchecked. Now that's a gamble they would take since they are pretty much toast in the not to distant future anyway.

[MoonlitKnight]

21. I also took it that way

He is advocating a dictatorship rather than free and fair elections. The desperation is not that they won’t vote, but that they want the election canceled.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

23. How come they're never specific and we always are?

No specific problems identified; no specific solutions proposed. It's just a regurgitation of hate-filled rhetoric that he's heard.

Where are the proposals for addressing the climate crisis, poisoning of rivers, air and land, closure of small businesses, coronavirus, lost income by millions, education during a pandemic, helping old folks, disabled and those who have no health care?

[GulfCoast66]

24. Nice article. But more importantly thank you for what you do.

You seldom post so I have not had the chance to thank you personally.

DU has made me a better democrat and I like to think a better American.

You, sir, are making a difference.

Have a nice evening.

[HipChick]

25. Was I wrong to spell check before I read it?

It's the English teacher in me..