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PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:55 PM Jun 2020

What if the GOP dumps Trump (and Pence) at the GOP convention?

The GOP convention is scheduled for 8/24 to 8/27/20.

Some halfway normal candidate without perceived huge Trump ties or bull goose loony craziness is selected say Nikki Haley?

Who else could be a replacement GOP candidate?

Then the Lincoln Project (who we should not trust) pivots to the new GOP candidate and the GOP takes credit for removing Trump.

Trump steps down and is pardoned by Pence who serves out the end of the Trump POTUS but also removes himself from the 2020 ticket.

Trump is blamed for mismanaging the pandemic. The Democratic Party is blamed for everything else.

I think we should be prepared for something like a replacement for Trump happening, a fresh face to most voters.

Also these never Trump GOP ala the Lincoln Project are not pals of the Democratic Party but GOP looking to position themselves for opportunity and political survival.

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What if the GOP dumps Trump (and Pence) at the GOP convention? (Original Post) PufPuf23 Jun 2020 OP
Very unlikely. Trump still owns the RNC and they're not going to cut him loose. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
What is pigs grew wings and donned armor and flew across the country attacking cows with crossbows? struggle4progress Jun 2020 #2
Free steak! hatrack Jun 2020 #6
... Celerity Jun 2020 #8
... Different Drummer Jun 2020 #18
Why don't we deal with things that are very likely to happen rather Raven Jun 2020 #3
They won't... brooklynite Jun 2020 #4
He already has the nomination SCantiGOP Jun 2020 #5
If this was even a consideration chriscan64 Jun 2020 #7
One thing we totally agree on, when you said.... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #9
Exactly. The Lincoln Project is not our friend. We are not fellow travelers. PufPuf23 Jun 2020 #11
They're allies, which is better. To say they can't be "trusted" Hortensis Jun 2020 #29
Looks like most folks think the GOP replacing Trump PufPuf23 Jun 2020 #10
i could see them abandoning Trump on Nov 4th if they lose big... BluesRunTheGame Jun 2020 #12
Won't ever happen budkin Jun 2020 #13
It would certainly be unprecedented...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #14
McConnell just filled the final open judicial position Generic Brad Jun 2020 #15
That and a dime would get ya ten cents Blue Owl Jun 2020 #16
Not gonna happen. Xolodno Jun 2020 #17
his party approval is near 100%. Takket Jun 2020 #19
replacing trump would put them in an even worse position. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #20
If they wanted to dump him their opportunity was the impeachment proceeding. D23MIURG23 Jun 2020 #21
and what if? obliviously Jun 2020 #22
That was rude and condescending. PufPuf23 Jun 2020 #23
The GOP would implode. All those idiots in the red hats would go ape shit and bail. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2020 #24
The GOP is already in implode mode. PufPuf23 Jun 2020 #25
halfway normal candidate? scarytomcat Jun 2020 #26
That was also my question. Who? PufPuf23 Jun 2020 #28
Get rid of Trump? smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #27

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,829 posts)
1. Very unlikely. Trump still owns the RNC and they're not going to cut him loose.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jun 2020

Trump isn't going to step down no matter how bad it gets.

struggle4progress

(118,332 posts)
2. What is pigs grew wings and donned armor and flew across the country attacking cows with crossbows?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:03 PM
Jun 2020

What then?

Raven

(13,899 posts)
3. Why don't we deal with things that are very likely to happen rather
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jun 2020

wasting our time on things that never will.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
7. If this was even a consideration
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jun 2020

it would have been been started long ago and included all the GOP Senators who had no stomach for dumping Trump given the evidence and the chance at his trial. It would guarantee a loss, and if you're going to lose anyway, why make it worse?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
9. One thing we totally agree on, when you said....
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jun 2020

"these never Trump GOP ala the Lincoln Project are not pals of the Democratic Party but GOP looking to position themselves for opportunity and political survival."

Color me a skeptic but I believe these guys are trying to endear themselves with Democrats purely to gain trust, after which they will turn on us and abuse that trust.

My simple rule of thumb: Do not trust any Republican. I've been bitten too many times by those snakes, both in personal and business dealings.

KY........

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
11. Exactly. The Lincoln Project is not our friend. We are not fellow travelers.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:22 PM
Jun 2020

The part of the GOP repelled by Trump will use the Democratic Party then laugh at us.

Glad you perceive as I perceive.

Vote.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. They're allies, which is better. To say they can't be "trusted"
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jun 2020

is to misunderstand the relationship and do them an injustice. They do have their own principles and goals that they can be trusted to pursue.

It's better" because they're proven the kind of moderate conservatives who can work with Democratic liberals to make democracy function as it must if it's to continue.

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
10. Looks like most folks think the GOP replacing Trump
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jun 2020

at their convention is outside the realm of possibility.

I am not up for an argument.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
15. McConnell just filled the final open judicial position
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jun 2020

That was the end goal. They have accomplished their paymaster's mission. They no longer have use for Trump.

But even if they did offer him such a deal, he's too stupid to take it.

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
17. Not gonna happen.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:29 PM
Jun 2020

One, the GOP made sure NO ONE and I mean absolutely NO ONE could challenge Trump for the nomination. They've seen the mistakes of the Democratic Party and chose not to indulge in that.

Of course, they did this prior to the pandemic, economic collapse, racial issues boiling over, etc. They assumed nothing major, outside of a freak hurricane would happen. But now, they've painted themselves into a corner, they probably gave up plans to take the White House for the next eight years and are trying to figure out how they can retake at least one branch of Congress.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
21. If they wanted to dump him their opportunity was the impeachment proceeding.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jun 2020

They could have gotten together and decided he isn't working out, and decided on a party line along the lines of "we love his policies, but we have to stand with the rule of law".

They didn't do that because they are terrified of his voters and his cult of personality. His "I could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose support" comment was prophetic. His base hasn't left him in spite of the pandemic and the resulting shitty economy.

The GOP is going to be screwed either way, so they will keep the asshole around, and try to win him a second term by cheating.

obliviously

(1,635 posts)
22. and what if?
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jun 2020

What if you have your thumb up your ass and sit down and break your wrist? Geez, I wish someone would step beyond the 8th-grade level so we could beat this tyrant!

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
23. That was rude and condescending.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jun 2020

The post was specifically about how dire it is to beat Trump and the GOP and how cavorting with GOP ends up with us being stabbed in the back.

The next 7 months are not a smooth sail and will be marked by blind side surprises.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,846 posts)
24. The GOP would implode. All those idiots in the red hats would go ape shit and bail.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jun 2020

So basically they'd lose with or without Trump. Lose with him and at least they hold onto the base for later.
The party leaders tend to take the long view on these things (more than Democrats do) and they know they're better off losing with Trump and going into a rebuild mode.

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
25. The GOP is already in implode mode.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jun 2020

Most of the GOP leadership must be ready to clean up the mess and move on.

Replacing Trump at GOP convention is much neater for the GOP as a Party than impeachment.

The red hats are Trump's useful idiots and do not have long memories except stuff like overwhelmingly racists and greedy..

I am not predicting Trump will be replaced but it could happen.

What if Trump gets CV19 Summer 2020 and is replaced? Bet the anti Trump GOP would be in favor.

PufPuf23

(8,822 posts)
28. That was also my question. Who?
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

Nikki Haley was who crossed my mind.

Contrary to others in this thread, I think the scenario of dumping Trump at convention is viable however unlikely without a CV19 assist.

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