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Who are these people that are tearing down a monument of a Union soldier? (Original Post) redstateblues Jun 2020 OP
LWNJs or right-wingers posing as LWNJs John Fante Jun 2020 #1
Def not a good look greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #2
What's your side? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #3
The side that wants Trump gone. Pretty simple really. redstateblues Jun 2020 #5
If you define your side politically, then non-political actions may look unhelpful to you. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #6
Who benefits from those actions? They sure appear to be making some sort redstateblues Jun 2020 #13
Who benefits from you directing your energy toward worrying about them and how the WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #14
Who Do You Think Benefits From That, Ma'am? The Magistrate Jun 2020 #16
The action of pulling down statues is both asinine and counter-productive. Blue_true Jun 2020 #21
That's a very good question. Mariana Jun 2020 #4
yeah...who are they stillcool Jun 2020 #7
Apparently these people sarisataka Jun 2020 #8
These 'multiple groups' need to find better spokespeople superpatriotman Jun 2020 #9
In Other Words, Sir, Revolutionist Larpers The Magistrate Jun 2020 #10
I state now, sir, that I fully intend to steal the phrase "Revolutionist Larpers" JHB Jun 2020 #18
By All Means, Friend The Magistrate Jun 2020 #20
So rule by mob basically. Crunchy Frog Jun 2020 #22
Her "statement" is why I have big issues with street action. Blue_true Jun 2020 #23
some people just want to destroy Amishman Jun 2020 #11
I agree. That possibility is why I don't care for street protests. Blue_true Jun 2020 #24
Fools that are there protesting to protest. bottomofthehill Jun 2020 #12
When less than half of people can name one SC justice, I doubt many even know who the statues are MichMan Jun 2020 #15
This. nt Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #17
k & r onethatcares Jun 2020 #19
Anarchists ... nt Raine Jun 2020 #25

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
1. LWNJs or right-wingers posing as LWNJs
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jun 2020

Giving Trump something to rail against IS the goal of this nonsense.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
13. Who benefits from those actions? They sure appear to be making some sort
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:45 PM
Jun 2020

of statement. Beating up a politician, a Democratic state senator, seems to be a political statement of some sort.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,407 posts)
14. Who benefits from you directing your energy toward worrying about them and how the
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jun 2020

"other side" might see/use them?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. The action of pulling down statues is both asinine and counter-productive.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jun 2020

County, city and town councils across the country are removing or looking at removing offensive statues, going to council meetings and voicing an opinion works better than mob violence. Also, mob violence can be cooped by people that have zero interest in the social justice positions that underlay our issues with some statues.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
4. That's a very good question.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jun 2020

Until you know who they are, it's probably best not to speculate about what their motivations and intentions are.

sarisataka

(18,755 posts)
8. Apparently these people
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jun 2020
Demonstrators issue demands the morning after violent protests, statues toppled

The morning after day-long protests turned violent, ending in property damage, two landmark statues being toppled, and an alleged attack on a state senator, a spokesperson who said she represented “a united front of organizers and activists for black liberation” issued a series of demands.

The spokesperson, Ebony Anderson-Carter, said she was speaking on behalf of multiple groups. In her statement, she said they were demanding the release of the man whose arrest Tuesday afternoon triggered the protests. The groups also demanded a Madison Police Department officer be fired and that the department itself be defunded and the money be “reallocated to the community.”

“The Madison Police Department serves and protects profit not people because they would have protected us when we were being hit out here and not being violent,” she said.

Anderson-Carter went on to describe the groups’ efforts as “a revolutionary fight” for human rights on behalf of all oppressed people.
https://www.nbc15.com/2020/06/24/this-is-a-revolutionary-fight-demonstrators-issue-demands-the-morning-after-violent-protests-statues-toppled/

superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
9. These 'multiple groups' need to find better spokespeople
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jun 2020

And craft better messages.

Because what I heard was nonsense.

It's getting harder to defend this bs to the middle.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
10. In Other Words, Sir, Revolutionist Larpers
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jun 2020

A man walking through a restaurant with a baseball bat and a bull-horn stating he was disrupting the place ought to be arrested.

These people are what is left on the flats when the tide runs out, and that is about all. The crowds of people protesting legitimate grievances no longer give them cover, so they can be seen in their true light.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
20. By All Means, Friend
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jun 2020



"Free to all finders, birds, beasts, Elves or Men, and all kindly creatures."



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. Her "statement" is why I have big issues with street action.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jun 2020

A righteous grievance has been coopted by extremists who have no interests in peaceful resolution of differences.

Any person that is walking around property with a baseball bat needs to be arrested. Some of the same people who go apeshit when a righty is walking around private property with an AR-15 are ok with a person doing the same with a baseball bat, it is utter nonsense.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. I agree. That possibility is why I don't care for street protests.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jun 2020

There is always going to be an anti-social element involved that want nothing but chaos, and when they get the chance, they bring that about.

MichMan

(11,961 posts)
15. When less than half of people can name one SC justice, I doubt many even know who the statues are
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

other than some old white guy on a horse. They see news clips of others doing it and just want to vandalize something themselves.

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