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(32,888 posts)still_one
(92,372 posts)getting complacent I am afraid
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)though nothing happened. The Sheriff announced she will not enforce the mask mandate. It is infuriating to people like me who have done everything to protect my family and especially my husband. It will be years before we can go anywhere. Just going to work for me fuels a high level of anxiety and I'm in a office alone with the door closed.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)There will be no more working from home. We can take an unpaid leave if we do not feel safe or we have health problems are someone vulnerable at home: they dont care.
JarOCats
(119 posts)So, shame on Florida -- and kudos to California for keeping it this low for this long.
still_one
(92,372 posts)afraid we are so screwed here
I will listen to what Gov Newsom says at noon today, but this is very bad for us
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)They're doing nothing in my county, where business is flipping the governor and his mandates the middle finger.
JarOCats
(119 posts)I generally split my time between Solano and Kern -- worlds apart in attitude, but equally negligent in protecting their citizens.
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)On Edit: The Sheriff said her people do not have time to enforce the mandate. Very few in my city take it seriously.
JarOCats
(119 posts)...when the lockdown has caused crime rates to plummet?
(I assume that's true of Fresno -- crime falling...?)
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)When I heard her say that it makes me wonder if these people give a flying fuck about our healthcare workers. THEY don't have TIME for the stupidity of republicans and these assholes who think they have the right to run around infecting people.
JarOCats
(119 posts)Since when did RWers ever care about anyone but themselves and their own tribe?
Emphasizing that wearing a mask is for the protection of others is the absolute wrong tack to take; they balk even more: "Why do I have to wear a mask? I'm not sick! Let the vulnerable people stay home!" et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
You're dealing with the mindset of spoiled, selfish children who just don't wanna, and you can't make 'em!
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)Yes its a blood red county. Traitor nunes district.
JarOCats
(119 posts)...while I have absolutely no trust in my neighbors.
AFAIC, our household is staying in Phase I until further notice. My only concern at the moment is getting better at cutting my wife's hair.
(Not being flippant. I just mean I'm taking one thing at a time, one day at a time.)
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)refusing to comply.
JarOCats
(119 posts)Suspending their allowances should be a good incentive.
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)Texas reports throughout the day
at140
(6,110 posts)so of course more infections are found.
Not a big worry, most do not have symptoms.
Hospitals will not get over-crowded.
still_one
(92,372 posts)and the sad fact is the number of positives is increasing, and the delta is going the wrong direction
Johnny2X2X
(19,108 posts)Not sure how many they tested today of that 7149 positives, but they are not rending anywhere near as badly as FL or AZ.
still_one
(92,372 posts)the last week
onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)still_one
(92,372 posts)call against complacency
There is a reason called for mandatory masks in public
California reported 7,149 new virus cases, by far its largest daily increase, for a total of 190,222 confirmed infections. The 3.9% jump from the previous day exceeded the average 2.5% gain over the last seven days. Deaths rose 0.9% to 5,632.
Johnny2X2X
(19,108 posts)still_one
(92,372 posts)The death rate is flat
Johnny2X2X
(19,108 posts)But the number to watch it the % of tests that are positive. CA is flat, but that's not actually great, needs to be going down to show the virus is being contained. CA is not doing great, but are nowhere near the crisis that AZ, SC, and FL are in right now. Those states are seeing 15-20% of tests come back positive compared to 5% for CA. Those numbers in AZ, SC, and FL mean it's totally out of control and they have no handle on it and most who need to be tested aren't getting tested.
still_one
(92,372 posts)Today at noon
Newsom did order statewide mandate on masks in public, so he is concerned because it isnt going down as you said
FreeState
(10,577 posts)The numbers here have averaged 1.5 - 2% positive of all test.
Sunday (no lumped test from other days): 7% positive
Monday (lumped tests): 5%
Tuesday (lumped test): 3%
still_one
(92,372 posts)onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)Testing is everything. What we need is the positivity rate.
Say we test 20,000 in a day. Positivity of 7, so 1,400 cases.
A week later, we test 40,000. 2,000 cases. Rate is only 5. Cases went up, but it was actually a better result.
The only reason why 2 weeks ago didn't have HIGHER cases is that only half the testing was done.
What is happening in Florida is BOTH more testing & a higher positivity. If, as other posters noted, if per capita testing is higher, the cases would go up, but positivity rate could be falling.
That happened here in Illinois. Cases kept rising, but testing nearly tripled. Positivity fell for about 30 straight days.
Just looking at cases without context, tells one nearly nothing.
Think about this last one thing: why does PINO want less testing? Testing volume is directly correlated to cases discovered, with float around the line caused by % of positives.
It's the % of positives, not the number of positives.
still_one
(92,372 posts)California reported 7,149 new virus cases, by far its largest daily increase, for a total of 190,222 confirmed infections. The 3.9% jump from the previous day exceeded the average 2.5% gain over the last seven days. Deaths rose 0.9% to 5,632.
There is a reason Newsom has called for mandatory masks in public state wide
Hopefully this will be a wake-up call and people will heed the masking and social distancing in public
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)But, you just described what I stated.
The positivity rate is rising. That becomes meaningful.
still_one
(92,372 posts)and these daily increases in numbers in the last week are concerning
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)Here in Illinois, testing has flattened after going up, up, up for several weeks.
Pritzker decided to go to phase 3 because hospitalizations were down, ICU occupancy was down, deaths were down.
And cases hadn't flattened, but positivity went from nearly 8 to under 4.
I think he did it right, but I see people getting lax pretty fast.
Masks in stores were 95%+ at the phase 3 start. It's probably 75% now, depending on where we go.
Grocery store? 100% staff & 90%+ customers.
Drug store? Even better.
Hardware & liquor stores? 30-60% depending on which day we go.
Not cool.
still_one
(92,372 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)unless you are living with vulnerable people at home (very old, with serious diseases).
There is a chance you might create some anti-bodies for the virus. And have less chance of a symptomatic infection in future.
That is exactly how vaccines work...they create anti-bodies in you.
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)testing asymptomatic positive.
BannonsLiver
(16,439 posts)I guess us dumb dumbs in flyover country arent the only ones with virus problems.
still_one
(92,372 posts)wrong direction
rictofen
(236 posts)Good, that's the way it should be. But that should've also been the case when comparing the US with other countries, most of which have far smaller populations. I remember all the mock-congratulatory threads about the US ranking number one in total cases/deaths.