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California just beat Florida. 7149 new cases yesterday. (Original Post) still_one Jun 2020 OP
Our population is not even close to the same. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #1
Sure, but we were going the right direction, and now that has completely reversed here. People are still_one Jun 2020 #11
I live in Nunes district. No one is wearing a mask. There was no slow open, everyone is acting as onecaliberal Jun 2020 #13
Can you convert your work to work from home? nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #43
No. We were ordered back to work on June 8th and basically told onecaliberal Jun 2020 #45
California has nearly twice the population of Florida. JarOCats Jun 2020 #2
This is the largest daily increase for us in California. The day before was around 6000. I am still_one Jun 2020 #6
They bought time to secure ventilators and ICU beds in my opinion. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #15
May I ask which county? JarOCats Jun 2020 #29
Fresno County. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #30
She said they don't have time to enforce the mandate... JarOCats Jun 2020 #36
I am not sure. I don't live there. But it's most likely true. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #38
The assholes are mostly right-wingers, aren't they? JarOCats Jun 2020 #41
I've had very young student behave better than most of these people. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #42
I'm rooting for Newsom to stay strong... JarOCats Jun 2020 #28
I am encouraged after his press conference today. Will start to hold funding for those counties onecaliberal Jun 2020 #31
Excellent. JarOCats Jun 2020 #35
Yes it will. He is also changing it from annually, to monthly. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #37
Texas Says "Hold My Beer" Stallion Jun 2020 #3
California is doing more testing than Florida, it is much bigger population at140 Jun 2020 #4
I am sure you know, but testing isn't the problem. Testing finds both positives and negatives still_one Jun 2020 #7
California's positive hae been mostly flat for several weeks Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #10
The 7149 is the number of new positives. Our curve not flat anymore, and has reversed direction in still_one Jun 2020 #12
Exactly and it is up sharply. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #16
Our curve is going the wrong direction. We are no longer flat. Hopefully this will be a wake-up still_one Jun 2020 #19
Still flat Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #18
I watch the daily tracking of the Mercury News and it shows and upward curve of new cases still_one Jun 2020 #20
CA is increasing testing greatly, that's the reason for an increase in new detected cases Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #21
Thanks. I hear you. I will be interested if Newsom gives his press conference still_one Jun 2020 #22
Not true in San Diego FreeState Jun 2020 #25
I know. Johnny2x2x pointed out my error, that it is actually flat, but unfortunately not going down still_one Jun 2020 #34
The death rate is a lagging indicator. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #33
You Have That Backwards ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #14
The testing rate has been pretty constant here, and our curve is no longer flat still_one Jun 2020 #17
I Share Your Hope ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #23
Someone just explained to me that the curve is still flat, but the problem is it isn't going down, still_one Jun 2020 #24
That Makes Sense ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #26
We are on the same page. That "laxness" is troubling still_one Jun 2020 #27
Why testing positive while asymptomatic is so bad? at140 Jun 2020 #39
Did You Forget The Sarcasm Emoji? nt sfstaxprep Jun 2020 #9
Hospitalizations were sharply increased from about 4% to 18%. It is a bit worrying. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #32
Yes, hospitalization number has more significance than at140 Jun 2020 #40
Yikes BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #5
We were going the right direction, but in the last week or so things changed dramatically in the still_one Jun 2020 #8
Ah, so now foul gets called when gross numbers are used for cases or deaths rictofen Jun 2020 #44

still_one

(92,372 posts)
11. Sure, but we were going the right direction, and now that has completely reversed here. People are
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jun 2020

getting complacent I am afraid

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
13. I live in Nunes district. No one is wearing a mask. There was no slow open, everyone is acting as
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jun 2020

though nothing happened. The Sheriff announced she will not enforce the mask mandate. It is infuriating to people like me who have done everything to protect my family and especially my husband. It will be years before we can go anywhere. Just going to work for me fuels a high level of anxiety and I'm in a office alone with the door closed.

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
45. No. We were ordered back to work on June 8th and basically told
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jun 2020

There will be no more working from home. We can take an unpaid leave if we do not feel safe or we have health problems are someone vulnerable at home: they don’t care.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
2. California has nearly twice the population of Florida.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jun 2020

So, shame on Florida -- and kudos to California for keeping it this low for this long.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
6. This is the largest daily increase for us in California. The day before was around 6000. I am
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jun 2020

afraid we are so screwed here

I will listen to what Gov Newsom says at noon today, but this is very bad for us

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
15. They bought time to secure ventilators and ICU beds in my opinion.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jun 2020

They're doing nothing in my county, where business is flipping the governor and his mandates the middle finger.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
29. May I ask which county?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jun 2020

I generally split my time between Solano and Kern -- worlds apart in attitude, but equally negligent in protecting their citizens.

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
30. Fresno County.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jun 2020

On Edit: The Sheriff said her people do not have time to enforce the mandate. Very few in my city take it seriously.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
36. She said they don't have time to enforce the mandate...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jun 2020

...when the lockdown has caused crime rates to plummet?

(I assume that's true of Fresno -- crime falling...?)

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
38. I am not sure. I don't live there. But it's most likely true.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

When I heard her say that it makes me wonder if these people give a flying fuck about our healthcare workers. THEY don't have TIME for the stupidity of republicans and these assholes who think they have the right to run around infecting people.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
41. The assholes are mostly right-wingers, aren't they?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jun 2020

Since when did RWers ever care about anyone but themselves and their own tribe?

Emphasizing that wearing a mask is for the protection of others is the absolute wrong tack to take; they balk even more: "Why do I have to wear a mask? I'm not sick! Let the vulnerable people stay home!" et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

You're dealing with the mindset of spoiled, selfish children who just don't wanna, and you can't make 'em!

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
42. I've had very young student behave better than most of these people.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:56 PM
Jun 2020

Yes it’s a blood red county. Traitor nunes district.

JarOCats

(119 posts)
28. I'm rooting for Newsom to stay strong...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jun 2020

...while I have absolutely no trust in my neighbors.

AFAIC, our household is staying in Phase I until further notice. My only concern at the moment is getting better at cutting my wife's hair.

(Not being flippant. I just mean I'm taking one thing at a time, one day at a time.)

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
31. I am encouraged after his press conference today. Will start to hold funding for those counties
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jun 2020

refusing to comply.

at140

(6,110 posts)
4. California is doing more testing than Florida, it is much bigger population
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jun 2020

so of course more infections are found.
Not a big worry, most do not have symptoms.
Hospitals will not get over-crowded.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
7. I am sure you know, but testing isn't the problem. Testing finds both positives and negatives
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

and the sad fact is the number of positives is increasing, and the delta is going the wrong direction

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
10. California's positive hae been mostly flat for several weeks
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jun 2020

Not sure how many they tested today of that 7149 positives, but they are not rending anywhere near as badly as FL or AZ.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
12. The 7149 is the number of new positives. Our curve not flat anymore, and has reversed direction in
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

the last week

still_one

(92,372 posts)
19. Our curve is going the wrong direction. We are no longer flat. Hopefully this will be a wake-up
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020

call against complacency

There is a reason called for mandatory masks in public

California reported 7,149 new virus cases, by far its largest daily increase, for a total of 190,222 confirmed infections. The 3.9% jump from the previous day exceeded the average 2.5% gain over the last seven days. Deaths rose 0.9% to 5,632.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
20. I watch the daily tracking of the Mercury News and it shows and upward curve of new cases
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jun 2020

The death rate is flat

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
21. CA is increasing testing greatly, that's the reason for an increase in new detected cases
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jun 2020

But the number to watch it the % of tests that are positive. CA is flat, but that's not actually great, needs to be going down to show the virus is being contained. CA is not doing great, but are nowhere near the crisis that AZ, SC, and FL are in right now. Those states are seeing 15-20% of tests come back positive compared to 5% for CA. Those numbers in AZ, SC, and FL mean it's totally out of control and they have no handle on it and most who need to be tested aren't getting tested.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
22. Thanks. I hear you. I will be interested if Newsom gives his press conference
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jun 2020

Today at noon

Newsom did order statewide mandate on masks in public, so he is concerned because it isn’t going down as you said

FreeState

(10,577 posts)
25. Not true in San Diego
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:09 PM
Jun 2020

The numbers here have averaged 1.5 - 2% positive of all test.

Sunday (no lumped test from other days): 7% positive
Monday (lumped tests): 5%
Tuesday (lumped test): 3%

still_one

(92,372 posts)
34. I know. Johnny2x2x pointed out my error, that it is actually flat, but unfortunately not going down
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jun 2020

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
14. You Have That Backwards
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jun 2020

Testing is everything. What we need is the positivity rate.
Say we test 20,000 in a day. Positivity of 7, so 1,400 cases.
A week later, we test 40,000. 2,000 cases. Rate is only 5. Cases went up, but it was actually a better result.
The only reason why 2 weeks ago didn't have HIGHER cases is that only half the testing was done.
What is happening in Florida is BOTH more testing & a higher positivity. If, as other posters noted, if per capita testing is higher, the cases would go up, but positivity rate could be falling.
That happened here in Illinois. Cases kept rising, but testing nearly tripled. Positivity fell for about 30 straight days.
Just looking at cases without context, tells one nearly nothing.
Think about this last one thing: why does PINO want less testing? Testing volume is directly correlated to cases discovered, with float around the line caused by % of positives.
It's the % of positives, not the number of positives.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
17. The testing rate has been pretty constant here, and our curve is no longer flat
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jun 2020

California reported 7,149 new virus cases, by far its largest daily increase, for a total of 190,222 confirmed infections. The 3.9% jump from the previous day exceeded the average 2.5% gain over the last seven days. Deaths rose 0.9% to 5,632.

There is a reason Newsom has called for mandatory masks in public state wide


Hopefully this will be a wake-up call and people will heed the masking and social distancing in public


ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
23. I Share Your Hope
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jun 2020

But, you just described what I stated.
The positivity rate is rising. That becomes meaningful.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
24. Someone just explained to me that the curve is still flat, but the problem is it isn't going down,
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:09 PM
Jun 2020

and these daily increases in numbers in the last week are concerning

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
26. That Makes Sense
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jun 2020

Here in Illinois, testing has flattened after going up, up, up for several weeks.
Pritzker decided to go to phase 3 because hospitalizations were down, ICU occupancy was down, deaths were down.
And cases hadn't flattened, but positivity went from nearly 8 to under 4.
I think he did it right, but I see people getting lax pretty fast.
Masks in stores were 95%+ at the phase 3 start. It's probably 75% now, depending on where we go.
Grocery store? 100% staff & 90%+ customers.
Drug store? Even better.
Hardware & liquor stores? 30-60% depending on which day we go.
Not cool.

at140

(6,110 posts)
39. Why testing positive while asymptomatic is so bad?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jun 2020

unless you are living with vulnerable people at home (very old, with serious diseases).
There is a chance you might create some anti-bodies for the virus. And have less chance of a symptomatic infection in future.
That is exactly how vaccines work...they create anti-bodies in you.

still_one

(92,372 posts)
8. We were going the right direction, but in the last week or so things changed dramatically in the
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jun 2020

wrong direction

rictofen

(236 posts)
44. Ah, so now foul gets called when gross numbers are used for cases or deaths
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jun 2020

Good, that's the way it should be. But that should've also been the case when comparing the US with other countries, most of which have far smaller populations. I remember all the mock-congratulatory threads about the US ranking number one in total cases/deaths.

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