Does Romney know that "47%" figure inluded children and the elderly?

[ThoughtCriminal]

Freeloading six year-olds! Don't work or pay taxes, but expect lunch money and schools!

[SickOfTheOnePct]

1. Not true n/t

[RandiFan1290]

2. Feel it all fading, huh?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

3. What?

Sorry, when I see a factual inaccuracy, I'll attempt to correct it.

[Lex]

4. Please elaborate if you are going to "correct."

Because you haven't offered anything of substance.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

7. Easy

The 47% does not include children, unless the children are filing income taxes. While Mitt may be fuzzy on what comprises the 47%, it's really not confusing - it's 47% of tax filers.

[Lex]

10. Sorry. Romney did not say 47% of tax filers.

He just didn't.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

11. I know he didn't

He said 47% don't pay taxes. Just because he's too stupid to know 47% of what doesn't mean we have to be just as stupid as he is.

So no, the 47% doesn't include freeloading six year olds.

[Lex]

14. He did not say 47% don't pay taxes.

Wrong. He didn't say that. Get your facts straight before you start hauling out the word "stupid."

[SickOfTheOnePct]

18. I guess he's being misquoted all over the internet then

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

[ThoughtCriminal]

16. See post below.

If they don't count 6 years olds, the math fails.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

17. The math doesn't fail

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/28/who-doesnt-pay-federal-income-taxes-legally/

According to new data from the Tax Policy Center, this year 46.4 percent of tax filers will have no federal income tax liability. The following table presents the data.

I read the post below, and the information is incorrect. The number comes from the Tax Policy Center, with data drawn from the IRS. It is calculated based on the number of tax filers that have an income tax liability divided by the total number of filers.

Unless a six year old has to file a tax return, he or she isn't included in the number.

[ThoughtCriminal]

19. Really? You might be right, but take another look at what they did

Then they must have mislabeled their own chart and mis-applied it.

1. The chart is labeled "Percentage of U.S. Population" not "Tax Filers"

2. Quote from the article: "That means 151.7 million Americans paid nothing in 2009."

The workforce in 2009 was about 155 million, the population was about 305 million. So how could that 151.7 million NOT include children?

[yardwork]

6. We know it's not true, but Willard did say it.

[ThoughtCriminal]

12. Nope. Here's how they calculated it.

And it pains me to link to one their sites, but...

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/19/chart-of-the-week-nearly-half-of-all-americans-dont-pay-income-taxes/

They took the "Percentage of Americans Not Represented on a Tax Return"

Not percentage of adults. Not percentage of workers. Not percentage of Tax filers.

When they say that 151 million Americans paid no taxes, they are including children, the elderly, the disabled. The math doesn't work any other way.

[Spazito]

15. What percentage of the Romney 47% are his super-rich buddies?

"And that data demonstrates that many of the ultrarich can and do reduce their tax liability to very low levels, even zero. Besides the six who paid no federal income tax, the I.R.S. reported that 27 paid from zero to 10 percent of their adjusted gross incomes and another 89 paid between 10 and 15 percent, which is close to the 13.9 percent rate that Mr. Romney disclosed that he paid in 2010. (At the other end of the spectrum, 82 paid 30 to 35 percent. None paid more than 35 percent.) So more than a quarter of the people earning an average of over $200 million in 2009 paid less than 15 percent of their adjusted gross income in taxes."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/business/in-the-superrich-clues-to-romneys-tax-returns-common-sense.html?pagewanted=all


Add to that all his buddies that hide their wealth offshore and pay NO tax on their hidden wealth as well.

Mitt the Shit stepped in it every which way possible.

[thelordofhell]

5. He doesn't even know it includes him

[randome]

8. Does he know?

It's that knowledge that lets him sleep peacefully at night. Along with the knowledge of all the people he likes to fire!

[julian09]

9. If they paid fair wages to workers and less to corporate executives, lobbyists, political

contributions; they would make enough to pay income taxes.

[nanabugg]

13. He doesn't give a shit! His base and some other idiots will buy it all. In the meantime,

people in PA won't be able to vote because of voter suppression. Nevermind the poll numbers. Find out who will actually be able to vote.

[Nevernose]

20. ExactLu. He doesn't care about the truth

As long as he wins the election, because that's all he gives a shit about.

[JI7]

21. Does he Care ? They should just ask their parents for lunch money when they are asking for money

to start their own business and pay for college ?