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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:39 PM Jun 2020

Largest newspaper in TN, published full-page ad saying "Islam is going to detonate a nuclear device

This morning, the Nashville @Tennessean
— the largest newspaper in the state — published a full-page ad from a far-right client warning “Islam is going to detonate a nuclear device in Nashville, Tennessee.” It’s accompanied by photos of Donald Trump and Pope Francis.








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Largest newspaper in TN, published full-page ad saying "Islam is going to detonate a nuclear device (Original Post) MelissaB Jun 2020 OP
That seems quite irresponsible, irrational and, well, insane Siwsan Jun 2020 #1
An update from @Tennessean 's VP for news - calling ad "horrific and...utterly indefensible MelissaB Jun 2020 #2
John Siegenthaler, Sr is rolling in his grave Lars39 Jun 2020 #4
I posted my comment before I saw yours StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #17
The Tennessean has fallen so far volstork Jun 2020 #22
A thorough investigation concludes... JHB Jun 2020 #8
Exactly. crickets Jun 2020 #11
Oh, good grief! And there are some people who will believe this. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #3
I personally know some who would/will. MelissaB Jun 2020 #5
Well, guess they won't be now since "The Ministry" tipped them off! Liberal In Texas Jun 2020 #6
are we in a movie? stillcool Jun 2020 #7
I'm actually quite impressed by this group. They referred to the "Democratic Party," StevieM Jun 2020 #9
Dangerous lunatics. Jirel Jun 2020 #10
Lol, as if "Islam" is one thing or entity? Drum Jun 2020 #12
Islam is a religion. A "religion" doesn't perform acts. (Bombings.) People perform acts. BComplex Jun 2020 #19
Yup exactly n/t Drum Jun 2020 #21
The requests for subscription cancellations must have been overwhelming. lpbk2713 Jun 2020 #13
I can think of others. n/t Igel Jun 2020 #36
Somebody's Ass Is Fired! ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #14
The Tennessean used to be published by John Siegenthaler, one of the great liberal lions of our time StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #15
English is not the native language of whoever wrote it. PSPS Jun 2020 #16
What's wrong with hopefully? n/t moonscape Jun 2020 #20
You darn young kids and your not knowing about Edwin Newman!!1!! PSPS Jun 2020 #24
Hopefully you are correct if not....... whistler162 Jun 2020 #26
Not a youngun :) Knew and loved Newman ... moonscape Jun 2020 #31
And it is only addressed to "Citizen of Nashville" not to all citizens of Nashville csziggy Jun 2020 #28
The reader ... Igel Jun 2020 #38
Also "infer" KatyMan Jun 2020 #29
There are plenty of native English speakers who use all of those phrases. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #32
You apparently don't spent a lot of time reading things written Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #33
Cat's already out of the bag, folks. Better run out and empty those paper boxes. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #18
I guess just to be on the safe side sarisataka Jun 2020 #23
It's on the Freedonian border, just north of Sylvania jmowreader Jun 2020 #34
I just want to point out that if this is a matter of Biblical prophecy... ExciteBike66 Jun 2020 #25
Seems extremely irresponsible to even run that ad... Luciferous Jun 2020 #27
Newspapers will take money from anyone, it seems alp227 Jun 2020 #30
Context here BGBD Jun 2020 #35
um......... Takket Jun 2020 #37

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
2. An update from @Tennessean 's VP for news - calling ad "horrific and...utterly indefensible
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jun 2020
An update from @Tennessean's VP for news - calling ad "horrific and...utterly indefensible in all circumstances."

Says paper should never have published the ad and that there is an investigation to see how it was published.





 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. I posted my comment before I saw yours
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jun 2020

Glad to know I'm not the only one who knows about John Siegenthaler.

volstork

(5,403 posts)
22. The Tennessean has fallen so far
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jun 2020

since the days of Siegenthaler, Sr. It's little more thank a rag now.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
11. Exactly.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jun 2020

The ad ran twice. There's no way no one realized what it was, no excuse for it at all.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
9. I'm actually quite impressed by this group. They referred to the "Democratic Party,"
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jun 2020

not the "Democrat Party."

That is real progress for people like them.

BComplex

(8,064 posts)
19. Islam is a religion. A "religion" doesn't perform acts. (Bombings.) People perform acts.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:06 PM
Jun 2020

Muslims are people who practice that religion. A very small minority of them are radical political extremists, much like in Christianity. It has nothing to do with the basic teachings of those religions, although extremists try to make believe it is so.

Right wingers are so friggin' ignorant.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
13. The requests for subscription cancellations must have been overwhelming.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:03 PM
Jun 2020


That would be the only reason they would respond this way.
They don't like it when you hit them in the wallet.

ProfessorGAC

(65,160 posts)
14. Somebody's Ass Is Fired!
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

Or more than one. They could pay a Vanderbilt intern $36k a year and avoid a repeat.
Someone is advertising is either dumber than dirt, or a true believer.
Either way, they don't belong in journalism.
I say 3 people get canned over this.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
15. The Tennessean used to be published by John Siegenthaler, one of the great liberal lions of our time
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

A truly great man. He must be spinning in his grave.

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
16. English is not the native language of whoever wrote it.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

Just in the first paragraph:

"We are under conviction"
"Islam"
"we feel under obligation to provide"
"can be demonstrated to be valid"
"Hopefully" (required thanks to Edwin Newman)
"is presented fully"

PSPS

(13,614 posts)
24. You darn young kids and your not knowing about Edwin Newman!!1!!
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jun 2020

'Hopefully' isn't really a word. Proper usage would be like this:

"Hopefully, it will come to pass" should be "We/I hope it will come to pass."

Newman, who was a long-time reporter for NBC, was also devoted to the proper use of words and grammar, and wrote books on the subject, the most widely known being "Strictly Speaking."

He had a sign outside his office at NBC that said, "Abandon hopefully all ye who enter here."

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
31. Not a youngun :) Knew and loved Newman ...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

... but since 'hopefully' is in common parlance, and honestly I didn't realize its usage as an adverb beginning a sentence was so egregious, and English is my first language ... will thank you for bringing it to my attention but argue it should be taken off the list of things that would brand the writer a non-native English speaker



csziggy

(34,137 posts)
28. And it is only addressed to "Citizen of Nashville" not to all citizens of Nashville
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jun 2020

I wonder who the person is that it is meant to notify?

Igel

(35,350 posts)
38. The reader ...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jun 2020

At least the reader who's not a collective reader or hearer.

I assume there must be at least one composite human out there who are a composite being.

Ms. Toad

(34,086 posts)
33. You apparently don't spent a lot of time reading things written
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

by late college/early graduate school writers.

Many,many, many of them write gibberish.

Partly it is driven by minimum page lengths.

Writing in passive voice eats up more characters than writing in active voice.
A thesaurus is great for finding the longest word with a similar meaning - and since the thesaurus says it means the same thing you can jsut substitute it, right? (They all skip the step of checking the dictionary.)

A related form over function rule is they are told not to use the same word repeatedly - so thesaurus to the rescue again! Again, with no dictionary check to make sure using a substitute word makes sense in the context of the sentence.

Bottom line - it has been a long time since the majority of high school students were required to write documents of any substantial length. Writing takes practice. Many of just don't get practice at anything longer than 280 characters. (A bit of an exaggeration, but not much)

So I don't see ESL in that writing - I see the current generation of young adults.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
18. Cat's already out of the bag, folks. Better run out and empty those paper boxes.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:06 PM
Jun 2020

Somebody's ass is going to be fired and quick.

The Tennessean and The Nashville Banner were the papers I read during my youth in TN. Tennessean "funny paper" was ritual Sunday after church reading.

If I recall correctly, The Tennessean was left-leaning and The Banner was right-leaning, but that was back when politics was still civil.


KY...........

sarisataka

(18,767 posts)
23. I guess just to be on the safe side
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jun 2020

I will make sure to not be in Nashville on July 18th.

Probably should also avoid travelling to Islam in case of a retaliatory strike. Is that located near Wakanda or Latveria?

ExciteBike66

(2,372 posts)
25. I just want to point out that if this is a matter of Biblical prophecy...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jun 2020

then it would be the deity's will to have the bomb detonated, wouldn't it?

alp227

(32,047 posts)
30. Newspapers will take money from anyone, it seems
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jun 2020

In an era combining readers preferring online sources of varying repute (as long as they don't have to pay) and the pandemic limiting the pool of advertisers more than ever.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
35. Context here
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:02 PM
Jun 2020

Middle Tennessee has a fairly robust Muslim population. This is the same place where there was some controversy a few years back about a mosque that was going to be built in Murfreesboro, where a large number of Somali refugees have settled over the past ~20 years. This mosque was vandalized at least one time that I remember after being built.

In short, Middle Tennessee and the Nashville Metropolitan area in particular has a large Muslim population and also a history of anti-Islamic activities. It's no isolated incident that this ad was run in this newspaper.

Takket

(21,620 posts)
37. um.........
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jun 2020

if they actually have this knowledge, isn't the appropriate course of action to notify the government, not take out an ad in a paper? Why are they not going to the FBI with this?

Rhetorical question

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