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toddwv

(2,830 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:23 PM Sep 2012

They're scared.

I can feel it.
The desperation is palpable.
Hundreds of millions of dollars wasted for a couple percentage points.
Key seats still up in the air that should've been locked down.
Polls going south.
Disapproval going north.
A convention whose defining moment was a soliloquy with an empty chair.

The right is in full-blown panic mode and is starting a full-court press on forums everywhere. They know that they've brought a show pony to a horse race.

That doesn't mean that the game is over, it just means that the rules are changing again.

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They're scared. (Original Post) toddwv Sep 2012 OP
Cornered animals are dangerous. nt Speck Tater Sep 2012 #1
+1 n/t Bonhomme Richard Sep 2012 #5
But in this case toddwv Sep 2012 #7
Now THIS is where they have to put him back on his heels PCIntern Sep 2012 #2
They scare me when they get into a corner redstatebluegirl Sep 2012 #3
They'll start to spend serious money on stealing the election. nt Nay Sep 2012 #4
When it comes to stealing elections... Blanks Sep 2012 #6

PCIntern

(25,547 posts)
2. Now THIS is where they have to put him back on his heels
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:26 PM
Sep 2012

with an unexpected piece of news....

Hope...hope...hope...

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. They scare me when they get into a corner
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 05:28 PM
Sep 2012

I agree, but they scare the devil out of me when they are cornered. They have LOTS of money to blow on this election. The PAC money could be used to feed the right wing zealots who will continue to preach at church to those who might be on the fence. I live in the reddest of states Oklahoma, I see it every day. The rich folks are using the middle class white folks by screaming about illegal aliens and gays to put up a smoke screen about what they really are doing.

I hope that by choosing Romney, who most of the Republicans don't like, they throw in the towel and stop spending money they know won't work. We can hope...

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
6. When it comes to stealing elections...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:12 PM
Sep 2012

There are a couple of things to keep in mind.

1) We know that Gore won in 2000, but the way that it was stolen (governor brother then they took over the white house) cannot be replicated. The main reason it can't be replicated is because that was the first time. There's an old saying that starts with 'fool me once'.

2) The Bushies were in control of the executive branch of the government when they stole it from Kerry in 2004. The executive branch of the government has a big stick, let's call it the FBI. Whoever controls the executive branch controls the federal law enforcement folk. Kerry had no 'law enforcement' arm to prevent the stealing of the election. The party in power gets to decide what kind of 'preventative federal voter theft squad' will be in place.

3) They can only steal a close election. There isn't any reason to believe that this election will get close again. This means that a couple of places can be watched closely by investigators. Since they have done this before (and we all expect it now, and have a good idea how they will do it); they are way more likely to get caught. At this point in time; getting caught means getting prosecuted, at minimum getting investigated. It was not like that in 2004; campaigns do not have a voter fraud investigation arm.

This isn't a repeat of 2000 because that was the first time they used this system. This isn't 2004 because they were in charge of the government. If they're stupid enough to try it now; they seriously risk getting caught and still losing. Getting caught cheating would do some serious damage to the republican's credibility.

I'm not saying that they aren't going to try to steal it; I'm saying stealing it looks different than the other times that they stole it.

Even if it looks like its going to be close. Now we have a better idea what they're gonna do.

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