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They are really pushing ahead with this blatant in your face fascism. I think it is a sign of desperation as they know that November success is a reach too far at this point and they are trying to shore up their base in every way possible, while also trying to protect their fascist criminal arses in a post Trump Administration world. Two incidents this week in particular have struck me as ridiculously transparent in their fascistic strategy.
Firstly, they have bounced in a far right bugaloo into the Voice of America, dumped all current heads of the various nationalised stations and dismantled all independent boards and replacing them far right anti-trans and anti-gay activists. So, a far right mentoree of Steve Fascist Bannon has been given control of the airwaves, and hundreds of millions in budget to pump out Trump propaganda, not just in America but all over the world. What could possibly go wrong? Oh wait
as Goebbels said Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth and now they have a vehicle to do just that, funded by courtesy of the American tax payer. (If you have not seen it and if you get the chance RMS covered this in detail last night.)
Then in a Friday night news dump Barr announced that Berman is stepping down as District Attorney for SDNY. Berman comes straight back with a statement refuting that: I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position, to which I was appointed by the Judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate. Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption. I cherish every day that I work with the men and women of this Office to pursue justice without fear or favor and intend to ensure that this Offices important cases continue unimpeded.
Barr has tried to bump Berman out of his job because he KNOWS that after Trump gets dumped hard in November SDNY will be coming after them for their foulness and corruption. Barr is actively undermining the fundamentals of the American Justice system as they try to intimidate Berman into quitting his job, so they can to replace him with a stooge of the Trump administration for 6 months right up to election day - to ensure that all current evidence of high crimes and misdemeanours, and current investigations pertaining to the Trump Crime Family, is dismissed and destroyed, and I am very sure Berman knows where many of the skeletons are buried. As Adolf himself once said Obstacles do not exist to be surrendered to, but only to be broken and at this point Trump and his fascist team are not only trying to break constitutional norms, they are in your face smashing them. All so very Nazi.
And the cherry on this rolling far-right coup attempt is Trumps very own Nuremberg Rally in Tulsa tonight, with fascist MAGA thickets playing the role of the brown shirts. Partying like its 1934. As an aside do you think even Hitler would have held a huge indoor rally at the height of a Pandemic? Heh.
Hold on everyone. Their increasing desperation is very real. The more they panic, the bumpier it is going to get.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)there are other parties involved. Both Putin and Xi have not stopped playing. It is going to be a rough ride to November 3rd and probably beyond.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)Berman implied that the stakes in SDNY are whether our *investigations* will move forward without delay or interruption. Barr replied with assurances only about *cases* now pending. Theres a lot of room for mischief in the gap between those words. Of course Barr will put everything current on hold and stop future investigations too.
Ongoing investigations...
Deutsche Bank
Giuliani and associates
tRump and family taxes and organization
Turkish bank Halkbank for allegedly evading U.S. sanctions against Iran... Turkey (Erdogan raised with Trump by handing him a memo at the G20 Summit in Buenos Aires in December 2018).
NoRWNJ
(33 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Well stated, Soph!
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)His criminality is too profound to allow a democratic DOJ. He can't leave office. How he accomplishes his continuation of power remains to be seen. Win, steal, delay, or negate the election. If he refuses to cede power who is responsible for physically removing him from office. I can't believe that these thoughts even are worth discussing but who would have thought the president could blatantly kidnap brown skinned children at the border, endorse nazis, extort foreign countries for political dirt, and teargas Americans. Things are going to get significantly more crazy through January 2021.
ashredux
(2,609 posts)Response to Soph0571 (Original post)
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MrModerate
(9,753 posts)The period between November 4 and January 20.
Trump could do anything, and probably will.
That is the real danger point. When he loses there will be a rallying cry to his over loaded thugs to surround the WH....
Alwaysna
(574 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)wnylib
(21,609 posts)with the SDNY justice, but in every aspect of the orange fascist's life and all those around him as well.
jimmyzvoice
(159 posts)erronis
(15,330 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)We listened to it this morning on podcast. Very disturbing
Prince99
(53 posts)I am wondering when and what type of information this shit show is planning on sharing with him.
gordianot
(15,245 posts)There are always enough people who know what is going on you really dont hide anything. Trumps problem he has burned too many and is too damn stupid to listen. At least that is what I have been told.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Trump, being the brute he is, will not allow that.
paleotn
(17,960 posts)This is going to get really, really ugly.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)How they are going to brief about their criminal endeavours! They will burn the house down first
wnylib
(21,609 posts)be trustworthy anyway.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)They would think that this would set the Biden administration up to fail. Of course as he would have competent adults in the room, not even!
wnylib
(21,609 posts)that Biden was in Congress and the 8 years that he was VP. He knows how things should run and has enough contacts to get brought up to date without Trump.
paleotn
(17,960 posts)For one, I'm getting really tired of "living in interesting times." Boring and quiet would be a nice change of pace.
PatrickforO
(14,588 posts)Just when you think Trumpy has gone as low as he can go, it gets worse.
PatrickforO
(14,588 posts)You're right about the fascism. These people are partying just like it is 1934.
wiggs
(7,817 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Not thinking the muscles are going to have the game they need. Losers.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)their leader thinks about his base
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-believes-his-followers-are-a-bunch-of-racist-morons/
calimary
(81,467 posts)They were calling it a debacle by the end of the evening.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)the reasonable expectation would be that some of the GOP Senators will jump ship and declare themselves Democrats, just because there is no other place to go. But this isn't Christmas and there is no Santa Claus. Shit, there's not a hint of a sign of the Tooth Fairy. These GOPers are in it for the bombing and the burning. But indeed, this is the time for a final assault on democratic institutions. Trumpy-boy is INTENT on destroying any vestige of Constitutional government and governing apparatus. It's all got to go, because Trumpy's MO is anathema to anything governmental structure.
I've been surmising for months, well before the pandemic, that Trumpy has no qualms about killing people, and that, rather than trying to prevent deaths, Trumpy believes that when he is instrumental in killing people, he GAINS POWER. Now we see, as we go on toward the election in the fall, that Trumpy-boy is on a KILLING SPREE. He's using the pandemic to kill more and more people. He wears the dead around his neck like a pearl necklace. He was nonchalant when Khashoggi was tortured and murdered because he identifies with the Arabian Butcher and is part of the elite group of dictatorial murderers' club. Now Trumpy-boy can boast more deaths with his Tulsa Death March tonight. He will now be able to call up Vlad and his Saudi buddies and BRAG that his power matches theirs. THAT'S WHO HE IS, and his Fanboys and Fangirls are being lead to the coronavirus slaughter and Trumpy-boy revels in the suffering, pain, and death that he's causing within his own fascist movement.
This is really sick stuff. But Trumpy is one evil son of a bitch, and he is proud of his evil practices. Do not be assuaged by the thought that Trumpy is just a misguided but well-intentioned incompetent. He's so much more. He's intent on spreading pain and evil. He's ACTIVELY doing it.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Im really nervous.
greenman3610
(3,947 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)So probably not
leftieNanner
(15,149 posts)There has even been talk of taking $$$ away from Barr's office.
panfluteman
(2,066 posts)And that's why I have been watching her religiously for the past four-plus years. She reports on ALL the Trump crimes, even the ones that go under the radar of most other news channels and their shows - and that is probably the vast majority of Trump crimes.
Yeah, I think that Trump will try to torch and burn as much of the American government as he can as he goes out the door if he can't stay in the White House come November. That will make him the greatest foreign asset that Russia ever had. Already, Trump has delivered for Putin big time in destroying the United States from within. If he doesn't wind up in the slammer, where he belongs, he should be permanently exiled to Moscow - with no possibility of return to the US.
When it comes to governing the country, Trump makes even George W. Bush look good.
When it comes to loyalty to one's country, Trump makes even Benedict Arnold look good.
BComplex
(8,065 posts)And hate radio.
Split America down the middle, and the nazis win.
CrispyQ
(36,516 posts)BComplex
(8,065 posts)"news". This is way friggin' overdue!
CrispyQ
(36,516 posts)We have an occasional knock 'em out ad, but never any campaigns.
For thirty years republicans have claimed, without any challenge from our side, that they are fiscally conservative, in favor of small government, the party of God and family values, and the personal responsibility party. Each of those claims would be easy to challenge.
BComplex
(8,065 posts)MoveOn sort of started to do this, then stopped.
CrispyQ
(36,516 posts)Bloomberg had some kick ass ads! We need ongoing campaigns that don't stop after the election. We are 30 years behind the 8-ball!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,702 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)leftieNanner
(15,149 posts)Berman is in his office working this morning. Hopefully he's protecting evidence!
And the VOA thing sounds like an order that came directly from Putin!
Great post!
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Why is he so unconcerned about the disease ridden rally? HE probably won't go anywhere near enough to them to get splattered with spittle.
He is now answering to Putin, and ONLY Putin. Putin OWNS him, but the turd is deathly AFRAID of Putin. Which is why, when the time comes, he will flee to SA, and not Russia.
Chaos and disorder. He is trying to destroy America. Those are Putin's marching orders...
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)that there will be no place in that arena where you won't inhale the virus.
OMGWTF
(3,975 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)that full blown Fascism ends in a bunker sucking on a pistol. I do hope history repeats itself.
NBachers
(17,136 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)ecstatic
(32,731 posts)assisting trump in the dismantling of our democracy?
don't doubt for a minute that the Republicans have even a small shred of thought for our democracy. They have worked all of their lives to subvert it. Now they can just do it under the open because Trump has shown the way.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,145 posts)They only learned that this week.
onetexan
(13,058 posts)and the 2 Dems senators will not allow the appointment of the Idiot's lackey prior to the general election. So they can't cripple the investigations Berman was working on that may implicate Lowbarr & Giuliani.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Everything they try turns to dust because they really are fascist fuckwits.
bucolic_frolic
(43,287 posts)I've ever been this worried about anything in my life.
VOA sounds like Trump will seed foreign airwaves with propaganda which will then reverberate as fact on Fox and in our media. That's the way he rolls, use foreign manufactured dirt as fact and let it go viral. Take this very seriously.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)There is increasing evidence pointing to Poopy Pants losing badly. We cant get cocky, we have to all vote to send him and Pence packing.
He wont take it well of course, hell cry Fake News.....but hes lost the Military so if need be they will drag him out of Office. Then we can get a good look at why he has been so determined to not release his tax returns and other financial documents. He is nothing but a dumb criminal con man.
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)DFW
(54,437 posts)But realizing its more like April 1945.
And Hitler, famous for being somewhat of a hypochondriac, wouldnt have gone within twenty kilometers of such a rally in the current situation.