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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 08:00 AM Jun 2020

Hold on tight it is about to get very bumpy indeed.

They are really pushing ahead with this blatant – in your face fascism. I think it is a sign of desperation as they know that November success is a reach too far at this point and they are trying to shore up their base in every way possible, while also trying to protect their fascist criminal arses in a post Trump Administration world. Two incidents this week in particular have struck me as ridiculously transparent in their fascistic strategy.

Firstly, they have bounced in a far right bugaloo into the Voice of America, dumped all current heads of the various nationalised stations and dismantled all independent boards and replacing them far right anti-trans and anti-gay activists. So, a far right mentoree of Steve Fascist Bannon has been given control of the airwaves, and hundreds of millions in budget to pump out Trump propaganda, not just in America but all over the world. What could possibly go wrong? Oh wait…as Goebbels said “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth” and now they have a vehicle to do just that, funded by courtesy of the American tax payer. (If you have not seen it and if you get the chance RMS covered this in detail last night.)

Then in a Friday night news dump Barr announced that Berman is stepping down as District Attorney for SDNY. Berman comes straight back with a statement refuting that: “I have not resigned, and have no intention of resigning, my position, to which I was appointed by the Judges of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate. Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption. I cherish every day that I work with the men and women of this Office to pursue justice without fear or favor — and intend to ensure that this Office’s important cases continue unimpeded.

Barr has tried to bump Berman out of his job because he KNOWS that after Trump gets dumped hard in November SDNY will be coming after them for their foulness and corruption. Barr is actively undermining the fundamentals of the American Justice system as they try to intimidate Berman into quitting his job, so they can to replace him with a stooge of the Trump administration for 6 months – right up to election day - to ensure that all current evidence of high crimes and misdemeanours, and current investigations pertaining to the Trump Crime Family, is dismissed and destroyed, and I am very sure Berman knows where many of the skeletons are buried. As Adolf himself once said “Obstacles do not exist to be surrendered to, but only to be broken” and at this point Trump and his fascist team are not only trying to break constitutional norms, they are in your face smashing them. All so very Nazi.

And the cherry on this rolling far-right coup attempt is Trumps very own Nuremberg Rally in Tulsa tonight, with fascist MAGA thickets playing the role of the brown shirts. Partying like its 1934. As an aside – do you think even Hitler would have held a huge indoor rally at the height of a Pandemic? Heh.

Hold on everyone. Their increasing desperation is very real. The more they panic, the bumpier it is going to get.

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Hold on tight it is about to get very bumpy indeed. (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2020 OP
Completely agree and ... jimlup Jun 2020 #1
The current cases "now pending"... BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #56
Berman Needs to Appear Before the House and Spill the Beans NoRWNJ Jun 2020 #62
K&R! SheltieLover Jun 2020 #2
This illustrates the reason cat grabber won't leave. johnthewoodworker Jun 2020 #3
Federal Marshals most likely 😀 ashredux Jun 2020 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2020 #5
I am really, really worried about... MrModerate Jun 2020 #6
YES Soph0571 Jun 2020 #22
THIS Ligyron Jun 2020 #27
He will be busy pissing in the corner of every room of the WH. Alwaysna Jun 2020 #60
K&R, if McConnell pushes another SDNY head through senate quickly they're covering something bad uponit7771 Jun 2020 #7
That's pretty much a given. Not just wnylib Jun 2020 #28
Here is what Rachel Maddow had to say about VOA last night (11:45) jimmyzvoice Jun 2020 #8
Great segment - thanks for posting. Trump gets his own media empire! erronis Jun 2020 #17
Thanks for posting this Soph0571 Jun 2020 #23
When does Biden start to get briefed? Prince99 Jun 2020 #9
That is the thing about DC. gordianot Jun 2020 #10
Briefed by whom? Generic Brad Jun 2020 #11
Very good point. paleotn Jun 2020 #13
Also Soph0571 Jun 2020 #24
Anything they might say would not wnylib Jun 2020 #30
Yep they would lie like the fuckers they are Soph0571 Jun 2020 #47
Not to mention the many years wnylib Jun 2020 #50
That is most certainly is.... paleotn Jun 2020 #12
No shit. Let's hear it for boring! PatrickforO Jun 2020 #15
The VOA thing is very, very troubling. PatrickforO Jun 2020 #14
Are they panicking or flexing their muscles? nt wiggs Jun 2020 #16
Both n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2020 #19
Yep but as they a bunch old intellectually challenged old white privileged fat bastards Soph0571 Jun 2020 #48
this is what bdamomma Jun 2020 #55
After last night in Tulsa, maybe more on the panic side. calimary Jun 2020 #63
At this juncture, Eyeball_Kid Jun 2020 #18
You are right,Eyeball Lifelong Protester Jun 2020 #53
can Congress cut funding for VOA pending investigation? greenman3610 Jun 2020 #20
That would make real sense Soph0571 Jun 2020 #25
Congress can cut funding from ANYTHING! leftieNanner Jun 2020 #34
K&R ooky Jun 2020 #21
Nothing Gets Past Rachel Maddow - Nothing! panfluteman Jun 2020 #26
THIS is Rupert Murdock's end game. Right here. This was the whole point of fox "news". BComplex Jun 2020 #29
Ignoring hate radio & the right wing media machine is the stupidest thing the dems have done. -nt CrispyQ Jun 2020 #35
I totally agree, CrispyQ. It's been 30 years, and the dems haven't yet thrown a hissy fit about fox BComplex Jun 2020 #36
It's like they don't believe in marketing. I don't get it. CrispyQ Jun 2020 #38
So true! We need to ORGANIZE, raise funds, and start grassroots advertising. BComplex Jun 2020 #41
Too bad our two billionaire primary candidates don't pick up the baton, right? CrispyQ Jun 2020 #42
Excellent post, my dear Soph! Bookmarking for future reference. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #31
Thanks Peggy 😃 n/t Soph0571 Jun 2020 #32
It's gonna be a bumpy ride! leftieNanner Jun 2020 #33
He is losing. He doesn't give a damn about his base. Fuck 'em, they can DIE. not_the_one Jun 2020 #37
I think there's a very good chance Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #40
Trump tweets in the middle of the night because it's business hours in Moscow. OMGWTF Jun 2020 #49
These clowns are too stupid to realize Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #39
Or hanging upside down with the mistress at a gas station. NBachers Jun 2020 #43
That would be okay, too. n/t Mr.Bill Jun 2020 #46
Holy crap. So the next question is, will repubs continue ecstatic Jun 2020 #44
YES jimlup Jun 2020 #57
I also think they are crazy mad because SCOTUS won't help them SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2020 #45
This is the dumb thing: even with the ousting of Berman, the deputy AG will be acting in his place, onetexan Jun 2020 #51
They are that stupid Soph0571 Jun 2020 #52
I don't think bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #54
He And His Neo Nazi Fans Are Out Of Luck colsohlibgal Jun 2020 #58
K&r Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #59
Maybe partying like it's 1934 DFW Jun 2020 #61

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
1. Completely agree and ...
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 08:22 AM
Jun 2020

there are other parties involved. Both Putin and Xi have not stopped playing. It is going to be a rough ride to November 3rd and probably beyond.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
56. The current cases "now pending"...
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jun 2020

Berman implied that the stakes in SDNY are whether “our *investigations* will move forward without delay or interruption.” Barr replied with assurances only about “*cases* now pending.” There’s a lot of room for mischief in the gap between those words. Of course Barr will put everything current on hold and stop future investigations too.
Ongoing investigations...
Deutsche Bank
Giuliani and associates
tRump and family taxes and organization
Turkish bank Halkbank for allegedly evading U.S. sanctions against Iran... Turkey (Erdogan raised with Trump by handing him a memo at the G20 Summit in Buenos Aires in December 2018).

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
3. This illustrates the reason cat grabber won't leave.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jun 2020

His criminality is too profound to allow a democratic DOJ. He can't leave office. How he accomplishes his continuation of power remains to be seen. Win, steal, delay, or negate the election. If he refuses to cede power who is responsible for physically removing him from office. I can't believe that these thoughts even are worth discussing but who would have thought the president could blatantly kidnap brown skinned children at the border, endorse nazis, extort foreign countries for political dirt, and teargas Americans. Things are going to get significantly more crazy through January 2021.

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
6. I am really, really worried about...
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

The period between November 4 and January 20.

Trump could do anything, and probably will.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
22. YES
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jun 2020

That is the real danger point. When he loses there will be a rallying cry to his over loaded thugs to surround the WH....

wnylib

(21,609 posts)
28. That's pretty much a given. Not just
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jun 2020

with the SDNY justice, but in every aspect of the orange fascist's life and all those around him as well.

Prince99

(53 posts)
9. When does Biden start to get briefed?
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jun 2020

I am wondering when and what type of information this shit show is planning on sharing with him.

gordianot

(15,245 posts)
10. That is the thing about DC.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:39 AM
Jun 2020

There are always enough people who know what is going on you really don’t hide anything. Trump’s problem he has burned too many and is too damn stupid to listen. At least that is what I have been told.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
24. Also
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jun 2020

How they are going to brief about their criminal endeavours! They will burn the house down first

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
47. Yep they would lie like the fuckers they are
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

They would think that this would set the Biden administration up to fail. Of course as he would have competent adults in the room, not even!

wnylib

(21,609 posts)
50. Not to mention the many years
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jun 2020

that Biden was in Congress and the 8 years that he was VP. He knows how things should run and has enough contacts to get brought up to date without Trump.

paleotn

(17,960 posts)
12. That is most certainly is....
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:44 AM
Jun 2020

For one, I'm getting really tired of "living in interesting times." Boring and quiet would be a nice change of pace.

PatrickforO

(14,588 posts)
15. No shit. Let's hear it for boring!
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jun 2020

Just when you think Trumpy has gone as low as he can go, it gets worse.

PatrickforO

(14,588 posts)
14. The VOA thing is very, very troubling.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jun 2020

You're right about the fascism. These people are partying just like it is 1934.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
48. Yep but as they a bunch old intellectually challenged old white privileged fat bastards
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 04:45 PM
Jun 2020

Not thinking the muscles are going to have the game they need. Losers.

calimary

(81,467 posts)
63. After last night in Tulsa, maybe more on the panic side.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jun 2020

They were calling it a debacle by the end of the evening.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
18. At this juncture,
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jun 2020

the reasonable expectation would be that some of the GOP Senators will jump ship and declare themselves Democrats, just because there is no other place to go. But this isn't Christmas and there is no Santa Claus. Shit, there's not a hint of a sign of the Tooth Fairy. These GOPers are in it for the bombing and the burning. But indeed, this is the time for a final assault on democratic institutions. Trumpy-boy is INTENT on destroying any vestige of Constitutional government and governing apparatus. It's all got to go, because Trumpy's MO is anathema to anything governmental structure.

I've been surmising for months, well before the pandemic, that Trumpy has no qualms about killing people, and that, rather than trying to prevent deaths, Trumpy believes that when he is instrumental in killing people, he GAINS POWER. Now we see, as we go on toward the election in the fall, that Trumpy-boy is on a KILLING SPREE. He's using the pandemic to kill more and more people. He wears the dead around his neck like a pearl necklace. He was nonchalant when Khashoggi was tortured and murdered because he identifies with the Arabian Butcher and is part of the elite group of dictatorial murderers' club. Now Trumpy-boy can boast more deaths with his Tulsa Death March tonight. He will now be able to call up Vlad and his Saudi buddies and BRAG that his power matches theirs. THAT'S WHO HE IS, and his Fanboys and Fangirls are being lead to the coronavirus slaughter and Trumpy-boy revels in the suffering, pain, and death that he's causing within his own fascist movement.

This is really sick stuff. But Trumpy is one evil son of a bitch, and he is proud of his evil practices. Do not be assuaged by the thought that Trumpy is just a misguided but well-intentioned incompetent. He's so much more. He's intent on spreading pain and evil. He's ACTIVELY doing it.

leftieNanner

(15,149 posts)
34. Congress can cut funding from ANYTHING!
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jun 2020

There has even been talk of taking $$$ away from Barr's office.

panfluteman

(2,066 posts)
26. Nothing Gets Past Rachel Maddow - Nothing!
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jun 2020

And that's why I have been watching her religiously for the past four-plus years. She reports on ALL the Trump crimes, even the ones that go under the radar of most other news channels and their shows - and that is probably the vast majority of Trump crimes.

Yeah, I think that Trump will try to torch and burn as much of the American government as he can as he goes out the door if he can't stay in the White House come November. That will make him the greatest foreign asset that Russia ever had. Already, Trump has delivered for Putin big time in destroying the United States from within. If he doesn't wind up in the slammer, where he belongs, he should be permanently exiled to Moscow - with no possibility of return to the US.

When it comes to governing the country, Trump makes even George W. Bush look good.

When it comes to loyalty to one's country, Trump makes even Benedict Arnold look good.

BComplex

(8,065 posts)
29. THIS is Rupert Murdock's end game. Right here. This was the whole point of fox "news".
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jun 2020

And hate radio.

Split America down the middle, and the nazis win.

CrispyQ

(36,516 posts)
35. Ignoring hate radio & the right wing media machine is the stupidest thing the dems have done. -nt
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jun 2020

BComplex

(8,065 posts)
36. I totally agree, CrispyQ. It's been 30 years, and the dems haven't yet thrown a hissy fit about fox
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jun 2020

"news". This is way friggin' overdue!

CrispyQ

(36,516 posts)
38. It's like they don't believe in marketing. I don't get it.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020

We have an occasional knock 'em out ad, but never any campaigns.

For thirty years republicans have claimed, without any challenge from our side, that they are fiscally conservative, in favor of small government, the party of God and family values, and the personal responsibility party. Each of those claims would be easy to challenge.

BComplex

(8,065 posts)
41. So true! We need to ORGANIZE, raise funds, and start grassroots advertising.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jun 2020

MoveOn sort of started to do this, then stopped.

CrispyQ

(36,516 posts)
42. Too bad our two billionaire primary candidates don't pick up the baton, right?
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jun 2020

Bloomberg had some kick ass ads! We need ongoing campaigns that don't stop after the election. We are 30 years behind the 8-ball!

leftieNanner

(15,149 posts)
33. It's gonna be a bumpy ride!
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jun 2020

Berman is in his office working this morning. Hopefully he's protecting evidence!

And the VOA thing sounds like an order that came directly from Putin!

Great post!

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
37. He is losing. He doesn't give a damn about his base. Fuck 'em, they can DIE.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jun 2020

Why is he so unconcerned about the disease ridden rally? HE probably won't go anywhere near enough to them to get splattered with spittle.

He is now answering to Putin, and ONLY Putin. Putin OWNS him, but the turd is deathly AFRAID of Putin. Which is why, when the time comes, he will flee to SA, and not Russia.

Chaos and disorder. He is trying to destroy America. Those are Putin's marching orders...

Mr.Bill

(24,319 posts)
40. I think there's a very good chance
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jun 2020

that there will be no place in that arena where you won't inhale the virus.

Mr.Bill

(24,319 posts)
39. These clowns are too stupid to realize
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jun 2020

that full blown Fascism ends in a bunker sucking on a pistol. I do hope history repeats itself.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
44. Holy crap. So the next question is, will repubs continue
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 02:58 PM
Jun 2020

assisting trump in the dismantling of our democracy?

I will step down when a presidentially appointed nominee is confirmed by the Senate. Until then, our investigations will move forward without delay or interruption.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
57. YES
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jun 2020

don't doubt for a minute that the Republicans have even a small shred of thought for our democracy. They have worked all of their lives to subvert it. Now they can just do it under the open because Trump has shown the way.

onetexan

(13,058 posts)
51. This is the dumb thing: even with the ousting of Berman, the deputy AG will be acting in his place,
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020

and the 2 Dems senators will not allow the appointment of the Idiot's lackey prior to the general election. So they can't cripple the investigations Berman was working on that may implicate Lowbarr & Giuliani.

bucolic_frolic

(43,287 posts)
54. I don't think
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jun 2020

I've ever been this worried about anything in my life.

VOA sounds like Trump will seed foreign airwaves with propaganda which will then reverberate as fact on Fox and in our media. That's the way he rolls, use foreign manufactured dirt as fact and let it go viral. Take this very seriously.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
58. He And His Neo Nazi Fans Are Out Of Luck
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 11:16 PM
Jun 2020

There is increasing evidence pointing to Poopy Pants losing badly. We can’t get cocky, we have to all vote to send him and Pence packing.

He won’t take it well of course, he’ll cry “Fake News”.....but he’s lost the Military so if need be they will drag him out of Office. Then we can get a good look at why he has been so determined to not release his tax returns and other financial documents. He is nothing but a dumb criminal con man.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
61. Maybe partying like it's 1934
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:39 AM
Jun 2020

But realizing it’s more like April 1945.

And Hitler, famous for being somewhat of a hypochondriac, wouldn’t have gone within twenty kilometers of such a rally in the current situation.

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