I'm a proud atheist (and an unapologetic Marxist), but I wouldn't say it "never" happens. The treatment of some religious groups by the Soviet state apparatus and their satellites very much involved oppression over who "doesn't believe in God the most," and included, yes, fighting and killing, especially during the civil war and again during the Second World War. So, yes, get the point, but history's a bit more complicated than all that.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)

4. Awwww man....

Reply to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:26 PM

Sep 2012

... way to down a great soundbyte with facts, logic and history.

Raster

(20,998 posts)

5. Gervais is obviously referring to the current ME violence in response to a....

Reply to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:58 PM

Sep 2012

...supposed Coptic Christian's cheap-ass and laughable film insulting Mohamed. Hence religion vs. religion over which religion is more in tune with the word(s) of god. Gervais states that we've never seen one atheist group killing another atheist group over which group didn't believed in god the most. You've pointed to the soviet state apparatus, which was atheist and routinely persecuted religions than ran contrary to the soviet ideology as an example. How is this atheist killing atheist over who doesn't believe in god the most? If anything, this was atheist regime persecuting religious believers.

And how does this tie in to the civil war? I see the tenuous connection to the second world war, but atheist killing atheist over who doesn't believe in god the most?

Sorry, don't see it.

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)

8. The Soviet response to religions wasn't about god vs no god.

Reply to Raster (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:53 PM

Sep 2012

It was about the possible damage/conflict between a person listening to Stalin's orders or listening to the Pope, Rabi, Bishop or whatever person in religious authority.

Raster

(20,998 posts)

9. Agreed. But it certainly wasn't atheist vs atheist about who didn't believe...

Reply to jerseyjack (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 03:15 PM

Sep 2012

...in god the most.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)

6. Thank you. I was trying to make this point on Facebook with this photo

Reply to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:06 PM

Sep 2012

and asking what the difference was between those people and the Chinese who are rioting over the Japanese buying a nearby island:

from this series of images:http://imgur.com/a/Y7oIp

Irrationality is irrationality. To peg it solely to one point of genesis is, in itself, irrational.

Which is why I disdain "gotcha" Atheism.