Occupy Lives

[xiamiam]

http://rt.com/usa/news/occupy-wall-street-anniversary-318/

video and photos and link

there is also a live stream from rt here:

http://rt.com/on-air/ows-one-year-protest/

[xiamiam]

1. i added a live stream from rt..

are any other media outlets even covering this?

[sabrina 1]

2. There are thousands of Occupiers in NYC. Very impressive, but then it never did 'die', but

it is fun watching the anti-99% so hopeful that it would just go away.

[tama]

3. It's all too common for all of us

to confuse the corporate-media-bubble with "reality".

[xiamiam]

4. they just reported 4 or 5 people in wheelchairs arrested by nypd

not on the news but in the assembly

85 others arrested as well

[sabrina 1]

6. They started arresting people last night. I was following on Twitter and they made no secret

of the fact that they intended to arrest everyone they could. They really are afraid of this movement for some reason.

They should be, because despite their crackdown OWS has been very busy all year, gathering more support and engaged in actions against the banks and doing work that Congress should have been doing protecting the people in their homes, eg.

OWS trending on Twitter right now!

Robin ?@caulkthewagon

#OWS and #S17 atop national trending topics: pic.twitter.com/nYkD9zYf
Retweeted by Occupy Chicago

[pinboy3niner]

5. Happy Anniversary Occupy!

[tama]

7. Love watching and listening

the mike check megaphone.

[backscatter712]

8. KICK ASS!

I'm going to the Occupy Denver event shortly - we'll be dancing in front of Wells Fargo to celebrate saving a couple families from fraudulent foreclosure!

[sabrina 1]

12. Occupy did more for Main Street in one year, than Congress has done since the beginning

of the Meltdown.

How many homes did Congress save I wonder?

[randome]

15. Quite a few mortgage legislation bills were passed.

Just Google "recent mortgage legislation" and read a few, including what's known as the Obama Mortgage Refinancing Program.

The additional tax break I got on my new home in 2010 helped me and my daughters a lot!

On edit: It appears I added that 2nd sentence after your response.

[sabrina 1]

16. Thank YOU, OWS who have been hard at work pushing their legislators to do something

for the people. Good they are listening. And they will be hearing a lot more from OWS over in its second year.

[randome]

17. Yeah, well, the 2010 first-time homeowners tax write-off was before Occupy.

You keep trying to 'prove' that Occupy has been helpful. I agree. It has. I disagree that it is 'growing in numbers' or represents some new social paradigm.

[backscatter712]

31. The people showing up for Occupy events has shrunk, but the sentiment behind Occupy hasn't.

It's just not as visible.

You'll see more, though it might not actually be called "Occupy".

[randome]

34. I think changing the name would be of immense benefit.

For good or bad, the word 'Occupy' has come to signify camping out in public parks and demanding that corporations behave better.

A name change, some leadership and we can still call it a success. Without those, I don't see what more will come of it.

I mean, the DU Occupy forum gets barely a dozen posts a week and 90% of those are from the same poster. Support is clearly lagging. That's not corporate wishful thinking on my part, it's reality.

[sabrina 1]

32. No, you keep trying to prove they were irrelevant.

Why? Why would anyone want to side with Wall Street against the people who finally got out in the streets to try to do something about the corruption and the money in politics and all the other issues that have so adversely affected the American people?

That's what I would like to know. Why would you not want to see them be successful? Unless you don't think there are any problems with the way things are.

[randome]

37. Observing reality is not being against anything. And I sure as hell am not 'siding with Wall Street'

I would like them to be successful. But I think it's a waste of time trying to shame corporations into behaving better. It will never work.

Putting more pressure on legislators will help. What the hell was it all about in NYC just now? Protesting Bank of America? For what? For being a mindless greed machine? That's what a corporation is. They will do whatever they can get away with.

The ones who open the doors and let them take what they want are the legislators. That's where the focus needs to be.

But without leadership, it is inevitable that OWS will drift about. Inevitable. That says nothing about what I would like to see happen.

[sabrina 1]

40. Well you've had lots of time to begin to 'observe reality' and no matter how much of it you

have been presented with, you still appear to be unable to accept it.

I see you pushing for 'leadership' again. Lol, OWS will NEVER fall for that. The NYPD demanded that they produce their 'leaders' too. And we all know why. It was a brilliant tactic to deprive them of scapegoats, but not a new one.

Interesting that you oppose 'leaders' for Wikileaks, but demand them for OWS. Which is it, is identifying leaders good or bad? You need to make up your mind!

But as always, thanks for kicking the threads you oppose which always seems to be anything that the masses do to try to change the way things are.

[randome]

44. There are no 'tactics' without 'leaders'. Your statement doesn't make sense.

Opposing leaders for Wikileaks? I've never said anything about that. I think Assange is an ass, if that's what you mean.

[sabrina 1]

46. I would waste time explaining the no leadership concept and its history, but it WOULD

be a waste of time, as you have a habit if ignoring or forgetting information you appear to be resistant to.

But most people understand the history and the concept and the very important reasons for the decision. I remember the pre-OWS discussions about this decision and they were incredibly in-depth and informing.

It was a brilliant idea. By now any leader they could have laid their hands on would be condemned by people like you who fell for the smearing of Wikileaks' leader. Sorry, we will not oblige the smear merchants and their supporters.

I have no doubt doubt such a person would right now be fighting Sex Scandal charges in NYC with screaming headlies from Murdoch's Rag the NYPost.


It has been so frustrating for the 1% that they have been foiled in their plans to smear the leader of OWS. Fun to watch them too, always demanding a leader.

They did try the sex scandal tactic on OWS though, but it failed. Breitbart was behind that.

[tama]

58. If you need a leader

take your pick and follow and obey one. Lot's of candidates around to lead you (and leash you ).

It's just awfully silly to try to tell others they should follow some leader if they don't want - and prefer democracy to obeying "leader".

BTW who IS your leader? Wouldn't be fair to tell others to get a leader, if you don't have a leader. So who is your boss?

[randome]

59. I have supervisors and managers. If I intended to change the economic system of the world...

...I would do so in a much more organized fashion. By hundreds of groups not working together but in loose collectives, a hundred different messages get trumpeted and nothing is accomplished.

It's been a year now. And I hear that OWS is growing in ever-greater numbers. Where is the proof of that? I can be convinced otherwise. But Reality, from where I see it, shows differently.

There is practically no interest in the DU Occupy forum. Protesters today went up against Bank of America to do...what?

[tama]

61. If?

So you don't want the economic system of the world to change, but to do as your supervisors and managers tell you. That's a honest admission, appreciated.

Other people want freedom instead of more bosses, but I guess that is impossible for you to understand, at least in your current situation.

[randome]

63. "If you're not with us, you're against us!"

That's hogwash. Everyone has their own definition of what freedom means. Including all the sub-groups within OWS, which is part of the problem.

If OWS would coordinate better and focus on one or two things to change, that would be all for the better. For everyone.

I would suggest overturning Citizens United as a good issue to rally behind. After that, full corporate campaign disclosure laws. Two things that are related and would do a lot of good.

Not ENOUGH good, of course, but it would be a start.

[tama]

66. Darn

very bad communication from my part, if it can be interpreted as "If you're not with us, you're against us!" I don't like that attitude in any form, including from Democratic party loyalists.

I've been following a feed from NYC all day and what I see excellent coordination and organization, which is also quite "chaotic" (in the sense of unpredictable) in it's beautifully democratic way. To me it seems that the main issue you fail to understand is that this is 1) global movement of many forms, and how 2) radical it really is. There is no "common goal" or way to express that in a way that would be satisfactory to all, except perhaps "Another World". Rather, we are movement of one heart with many heads and hands each doing what they can best. And what you can best is probably what you spent most time doing, for me that's writing and talking people through Internet. I'm not doing this from obligation, but because I enjoy this and cannot at least at the moment think of anything better to do. So, there are many people working on Citizens United, using the skills best suited for that purpose, and so on with million other issues and things to do.

If we need a starting point for this movement, I would put the marker at Zapatista uprising, soon after Soviet Collapse and at the moment of NAFTA ratification. In US the movement in it's most visible and mainstream form has taken the name Occupy, but of course Seattle etc. etc. have been manifestations of the same movement.

[randome]

69. I am definitely in favor of more protests.

Last year, I said I wished OWS would do more mass protests instead of park encampments. But I don't see what 'protesting' BOA will accomplish. They don't seem to be a worthy target to me.

What does OWS want them to do? Give away money? Ease up on rules and fees? What rules? What fees? I don't see what the point of this particular protest is.

You can't shame a corporation into behaving better. You CAN, however, put pressure on legislators to stop letting the banks rob us. That's where I think more effort needs to be focused.

[tama]

71. Following the general assembly

now going on in Zucotti park, there seems to be strong consensus that they want to "Imagine world without Wall Street". So we don't want the banks doing anything, just stop doing. One of the main reasons is the fact that corporations can't be shamed into behaving better. With people there is always hope.

[sabrina 1]

81. BOA already did what OWS wanted them to do. They stopped imposing even more

draconian fees on already over charged clients AFTER they lost billions of dollars in deposits. Now their remaining clients have less fees to pay, and guess what, BOA didn't collapse. The truth is they will squeeze every last dime out of the people, unless the people do what OWS is doing, refusing to pay their extortion fees.

OWS has also forced them to negotiate, as they are supposed to do, with homeowners, rather than foreclosing on them. And as a result, people have remained in their homes, BOA still did not collapse, neighborhoods avoided even more devaluation of property and BOA learned that the People have more Power than Congress when they choose to exercise it.

Congress failed to do both of those things for the people. OWS succeeded. And that is just one minor example of how OWS has been doing Congress' job for Main Street, and preventing the corrupt banks from ripping off the people whenever they were made aware of it.

This is a democracy, and the people are supposed to have power. Up to now, they have had none. Wall Street has been running this country. Now the people are taking it back a little bit at a time and they have only just begun.

[zappaman]

82. Bullshit

"BOA already did what OWS wanted them to do. They stopped imposing even more draconian fees on already over charged clients AFTER they lost billions of dollars in deposits. Now their remaining clients have less fees to pay"

I left BOFA after they did indeed quietly introduce new fees after reconsidering the very public one they tried to impose last year that got a lot of press.
You have your facts wrong.
Try a simple google and see the fees they imposed about 6 months ago.

[sabrina 1]

87. What does that have to do with what OWS joining the 'move your money day'

movement? They accomplished their goal. Hundreds of thousands of Americans removed their money from big banks as was the stated goal for that day. OWS is NOT Congress, they are ordinary Americans yet they stopped those fees with one day of protests. Then it was up to Congress.

Your blame is a bit misplaced. The people do not have the power to pass the proper laws that could end these predatory practices, but they CAN organize and at least temporarily stop them, but then their Representatives who do have the power to make it permanent, are supposed to do their jobs.

In that one day protesters saved ordinary people more money that Congress has in four years.

[NCTraveler]

85. "BOA already did what OWS wanted them to do."

The fees they imposed on my business two years ago haven't gone anywhere. Public outcry ended the debt card fee.

[sabrina 1]

86. And that was the goal of OWS in that particular protest. They backed the 'move your money

day' movement across the country and hundreds of thousands of people moved their money even before the official start of the protest.

After that it was up to Congress to follow through. Congress didn't even try to stop those fees because Congress works for them.

[sabrina 1]

74. No one is stopping you from changing the world. But you seem far more interested in bashing

those who are out their putting their freedom and lives on the line trying to do something considering NO ONE was even trying until they did.

So, what is stopping you from doing what they are trying to do, since you are so certain you would do it so much better?

I look forward to following YOUR movement since all I am interested in is that someone do SOMETHING. If you can do it better than OWS, then consider me one of your most loyal supporters.

However, after one year of reading your comments, I see no indication that you are doing anything other than sitting behind your computer, jumping into every thread about OWS or Wikileaks, and presenting distorted information, while assuring us you could do it all better.

Let us know when you have your plans in place so we can all get on board.

Meanwhile we will support the people who are out there doing something, who aren't wasting time sitting around criticizing other people for at least trying.

Until you start showing us how much better you can do it, your comments serve only one purpose, they kick threads like this and offer an opportunity to those who actually have the facts on these issues, to present them.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

88. "it's a waste of time trying to shame corporations into behaving better"

You're correct; as only people can express shame.

[girl gone mad]

48. First-time homeowners tax write-off is not an example of good legislation.

It pulled demand forward briefly, but ended up putting tens of thousands of additional homeowners underwater. The vast majority of people who took this credit would have been much better off simply waiting on the sidelines.

The basic impact of the tax credit was transferring money from homebuyers to sellers and their lenders, according to economist Dean Baker in his study First Time Underwater: The Impact of the First-Time Homebuyer Tax Credit.

Why would you promote this? This is a great example of the type of bullshit pro-banker policy Occupy is fighting against.

[randome]

51. Yes, well, I wasn't 'pushed' toward anything. I made this decision on my own.

A rough divorce and a safe haven for my daughters. No contest!

[tama]

62. Rough divorces and responsibility for children

can be extremely "pushy". My sincere sympathy, been there done that.

[randome]

64. Thank you.

Maybe the tax write-off wasn't perfect legislation (no legislation is) but it helped some people.

[girl gone mad]

70. It hurt far more people than it helped.

The problem is not that it wasn't perfect, the problem is that it was bad policy. Like most of the administrations' economic policies, it was drafted with the express intent of helping the banks, not helping the people.

ETA: My brother is just one example of someone hurt by this program. He and his young wife decided to pull the trigger on a home purchase thinking this credit was the deal of a lifetime. They are now some $30k underwater.

Timmy foamed that runway, though. Who cares who gets hurt, right? Just as long as the pigs on Wall Street get to feed.

[xiamiam]

13. be safe..and thanks for going..post back and let us know what happens

[Bragi]

9. Let's pretend Occupy didn't die

That's easier than discussing why it died, and what would need to be changed to rebuild the 99% movement for equality, without embracing the dysfunctional and distracting "Occupy" tactic that killed it.

[sabrina 1]

10. Ah, the Corporate Media talking point. "OWS IS DEAD"!

They wish! But they do work hard for their bosses.

Btw, OWS was declared dead one year ago, then 11 months ago, then 10 months ago etc.

But they just keep on going despite the fierce opposition from the 1%.

[4th law of robotics]

26. The 1% must be huge

if everyone who is even slightly critical of the OWS is a member.

[xiamiam]

28. usually those critical get their talking points from the mainstream media..owned wholly by the 1%.nt

[4th law of robotics]

29. "Talking point" shouldn't mean

"data point that I don't care to argue against."

/if I was one of those evil 1%ers eager to get people to shut up with the whole radical reform idea I wouldn't try to get average people to love me for being rich. That just won't happen. Instead I'd organize a "grassroots" movement against the super wealthy and have them act in such an annoying and childish manner all the while spouting rhetoric against me that they effectively discredit any real movement before it can even begin to threaten my position. So have people scream "tax reform!" while shitting in public parks. That way people in suits who might organize and actually achieve said tax reform are turned away from this increasingly sidelined and fringe group.

//I'm not saying that's what the OWS is. But I scratch my head to see how it could have more effectively served the 1% if it were a conspiracy on their behalf.

[xiamiam]

30. it's not but you already know that..nt

[4th law of robotics]

55. I know that pretty much everytime someone criticizes the OWS on here

they're accused of being paid shills for the 1%, of ignorantly repeating talking points that presumably aren't true, and the like.

[backscatter712]

56. Not every time... but a lot of the time.

I'm absolutely convinced that astroturfing and psy-ops happens on DU every day.

[HiPointDem]

80. !!!!

[Bragi]

33. The Occupy tactic failed

It was a tactic that -- long term -- few people could participate in, that was easy for the media to ignore, and that the 1 per cent could use their security apparatus to attack, disperse and dismantle.

[sabrina 1]

38. The Corporate media was expected to ignore them, that is why they have their own media..

They did not disperse. In fact they managed to not only remain in the public square for far longer than they intended, they occupied public squares across the country and the globe, which they had NOT intended.

So they far exceeded their initial goals which were to remain for about two weeks in just one public square in NYC.

Now they are all over the world. And they have to decide what they want to do with this unexpected success as they enter a not even expected, second year.

The social media is where OWS is and was from the beginning. Too bad you still rely on the MSM for your news. I thought everyone knew by now that that is the last place to look for news.

[tama]

60. It's not just a tactic

it's not just the means but also the whole purpose: democracy.

What has failed is representative system and 'leaders'. Let's try democracy instead.

[Zorra]

89. No, actually it was an enormous, unparalleled success.

So many wonderful things resulted from, and evolved from, the Occupy tactic!

Because of your apparent great love and respect for Wall St., Banksters, and the Military Industrial Complex, you probably won't view Occupy's leading role in the demise of ALEC, or the demise of ALEC, as successes. But, oh well...


But for Occupiers, and other liberals/progressives around the world, the collapse of ALEC is an event that elicits great joy.

Occupy Wall Street Protests ALEC In What Activists Call Largest Coordinated Occupy Event This Year

NEW YORK -- In cities around the country today, hundreds of Occupy protestors gathered for what the movement described in a release as its "largest coordinated action this year."

Since a wave of nationwide evictions effectively ended the movement's tent-city phase three months ago, Occupy activists have been trying to regain momentum. It's unclear whether today's event lived up to those expectations, but its organizers presented it as an important step forward.

Corporate Exodus Continues From ALEC as Secretive Right-Wing Group’s Policies Come to Light

Five more corporations have severed ties with the secretive, right-wing American Legislative Exchange Council, known as ALEC. The group has come under increasing scrutiny in recent months as the public has become aware of its role in advancing the "Stand Your Ground" gun law initially cited to protect Trayvon Martin’s killer in Florida. The organization has pushed voter suppression bills, union-busting policies and other controversial legislation. The future of ALEC is now more precarious than ever before. A grand total of 25 corporations have dropped ALEC membership, as well as four major nonprofit organizations and 55 elected officials. We’re joined by Lisa Graves, executive director of the Center for Media and Democracy, which created ALEC Exposed, a website showcasing more than 800 of the group’s model bills.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/11/corporate_exodus_continues_from_alec_as

ALEC's Membership Dropping Like Flies
Published: Saturday 15 September 2012

With controversial and sometimes shady dealings being taking place between lobbyists and congress, big corporations are starting to pick up on the dangers of being associated with polarized lobbying bodies. The New Jersey News reports that the American Legislative Exchange Council, or ALEC, lost the membership of another multi-billion dollar corporation yesterday:

http://www.nationofchange.org/alec-s-membership-dropping-flies-1347715368

Have a Nice Day!

[Bragi]

90. Damn, you found me out

Indeed, you outed me. I've been quietly hanging around here for a decade secretly waiting to demonstrate my "great love and respect for Wall St., Banksters, and the Military Industrial Complex." Damn.

Question: So, did the dozens of non-doctrinaire, open-minded people like yourself who attended the Occupy nostalgia parties this past week talk any about the missing hundreds of thousands who participated a year ago, but who have disappeared during your year of unparalleled success? No, eh.

Anyway, thanks for making my point, which is that Occupy may have appealed to the militant cadre who took it over, but it was an unsustainable long-term tactic, and the 99 per cent movement for social and economic equality needs a different, more diverse, and more inclusive strategy.

You have a good day now.

[xiamiam]

11. I love occupy and the veterans for peace who were just arrested feel the same

as well as the thousands of folks in protest in cities across America...the 99% are in solidarity against the corporate take over of America..not against each other

[sabrina 1]

14. They just arrested Code Pink's CoDirector Rae Abileah for simply standing on the sidewalk

also:

&feature=youtu.be

CoDirector Rae Abileah arrested during a Bra toss outside of Bank of America in NYC. The police arrested her for "blocking a sidewalk" on the corner of washington place and W 14th street. They targeted her and arrested her for standing up against Big Banks.

They KNOW these 'blocking the sidewalk' arrests are going to be thrown out of court now, as they have been all year, but they are still violating people's 1st Amendment rights anyhow.

Bloomberg's army is working for the 1% as always.

[xiamiam]

18. it still shocks me that people get arrested for protesting in this country..nt

[sabrina 1]

20. Yes, we CLAIM to have freedom of speech, but the past year of OWS' peaceful protests

with the whole world watching as an army of heavily armed sometimes paramilitary cops whose faces no one could see, were ready to and nearly did kill several protesters, rather than allow them to exercise their right to free speech.

I see the comments here and elsewhere claiming how much better we are in the US than other countries, because we allow people to say whatever they want.

Not true, you can burn a Koran sure, but you cannot criticize Wall Street.

[tama]

65. Schock and awe

That's the purpose of these actions of state terrorism. But we just can't fear control us, and will not.

[Bragi]

22. I love the protesters too

I am just disappointed that Occupy fizzled out, and the 99 per cent movement went from being huge thing with momentum to an irrelevant thing, fading away. I think it's worth asking why. - YF

[xiamiam]

25. it did not fizzle..its been percolating..nothing has been done..people are still angry.occupy unites

this am people in wheelchairs were arrested..and you ask WHY ..105 people were arrested this am..people have been injured while out on the streets representing most of us..and you ask why..turn off the mainstream media and turn on an occupy livestream and you will understand why

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. THe problem is it didin't

tactics changed.

I will share with you where the local OSD (and allied groups) who still meet in GA's have gone to.

Some are inside the Democratic Party. I know, shocking all and all and we have two actually... shocking I know, running for office, they made it through the primaries. Two congressional offices in fact. I doubt they will win... arterial red blood districts, but they are running... they are running where the party refuses to run anybody.

Some are working in the a slurry of local issues, organizing people, organizing marches when needed, TTP was a good example, this afternoon will be another good example.

More than a few are working the barrios helping the community.

The political pressure was such on the foreclosure issue that the Kamala Harris actually credited Occupy for quite a bit of the inspiration\ pressure for the California Homeowner Bill of Rights.

They are still here, they are just NOT camping around, which was a major point of contention, from you iirc... but even my local mayor admits, they are huge headache to the local power structure. Of course sort of on background... he ran when hubby asked about the pension mess and if he'd like his to be taken away by the voters.

And as I said, I am looking forwards to my afternoon run while covering a march they are holding... yes, taking all those photographs is a hell of a workout. Hey, as hot as it is, dress light, for a run.

[julian09]

42. Well I would like to see them take the voter suppression issue and help people register,and vote

to start, then go after the obstructionists, not just here and there but everywhere. There is nothing lower in the polls, than congress.
They have a huge target there, they are not like tea party and shouldn't be adverse to opposing them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. LUTZ FILES SUIT FOR FALSE ARREST WHILE REGISTERING VOTERS

Case tests "Pruneyard" Supreme Court Decision when applied to public areas

September 14, 2012 (San Diego) – El Cajon activist Ray Lutz, founder of the watchdog Citizens Oversight organization, filed suit on Sept. 13, 2012, alleging a false arrest on November 29, 2011, while he was registering voters in San Diego's Civic Center Plaza, effectively the town square of San Diego.

The suit named three defendants explicily: the City of San Diego, Police officer Tony Lessa, who arrested Lutz, and CBRE, "CB Richard Ellis Group" that manages the Civic Center Plaza Office Building and that performed a citizen's arrest for trespassing. The suit also names 25 John Does to allow for additional defendants to be named as determined by discovery.

Case #37-2012-00103865-CU-CR-CTL is assigned to Judge Denton. Attorney Bryan Pease is handling the case, Details can be found on this web page:

http://www.copswiki.org/Common/VoterRegistrationArrestOfRayLutz. View Lutz’s statement here: http://www.copswiki.org/Common/M1210 The video of the arrest is here:

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/11052

Who the hell told you they have not?

[julian09]

52. Actually no one, and no one told me the hell they did.

Since Nov 29/2011 how many have they done? Have they assisted people who may need help getting places and explaning new requirements to register? Is Ray Lutz founder of the watchdog Citizen Oversight organization, also an Occupy member? Well I hope that they find in his favor.

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. He was a member of Occupy

he ran for office locally, before occupy, and multiple Occupy around the country have been doing things like this... aka registering voters.

The problem, and partially it is occupy's fault, long story, the major media refuses to cover what Occupy have been up to... end of discussion, period, full stop.

But seriously, Occupy the Barrio and Occupy the hood have been about registering voters across the nation, among other things.

But when the local NBC station, two blocks from Civic Center, (Freedom Plaza) only had reporters come get coffee, from time to time, but never had a story on the air. And when you have channel Eight refer to Occupy as "weird, and strange," well there you have it.

The fair coverage, where any has occurred, has happened at indie papers, like the one I freelance at. Why indie media NEEDS FREAKING DONATIONS.

Oh and this is shocking, but I forgot, the local FOX affiliate gets props for decent coverage.

[tama]

67. Dont go after obstructionists

(where they are running to we don't necessary want to follow), go through them, over them, under them. I know this can be hard to accept, but Occupy is about democracy, and Democratic party is one of the main obstructionists. If you want to take over the party and return it to people from corporations, fine, I stand in solidarity. If you want to do your thing and go round or through the Democratic party and give its obstructions no attention, fine, I stand in solidarity.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Yup, the folks I will be covering in the afternoon are very much dead

Yup, you are right.

You would do well to find out though where they have gone and what they have been up to though.

[backscatter712]

41. Your concern is noted. n/t

[LanternWaste]

57. idn't seem dead, but then again, I don't pretend to be a doctor either..

I enjoyed the weekend Occupy events in D/FW... didn't seem dead, but then again, I don't pretend to be a doctor either..

[sabrina 1]

19. "Financial District in Chaos on 'Occupy Wall Street Anniversary"

"Financial District in Chaos on 'Occupy Wall Street Anniversary"

Cops threatened to arrest anyone who stepped off the sidewalk, and busted dozens of people — including several reporters, according to witnesses.

A crowd of about 50 barged into the lobby of the 4 New York Plaza, which houses JPMorgan Chase — as well as the Daily News — and demanded to speak to bank officials. About eight of them were arrested.

"We’re here protesting financial terrorism. The financial mafia," said Yates McKee, 32, as he was loaded into the back of a police van.

Good photos at the link ...

[tama]

68. Mic check in NYSE

I heard that people wearing suits and with NY id. went into the building and held mic check. All I know is word from the street.

[warrprayer]

21. This video put a lump in my throat

... Occupy is immortal. You can't kill an idea.

[crazyjoe]

72. why?

[warrprayer]

84. it's symbolic

seeing peoplle celebrating freedom instead of getting maced or beaten for a change. The girl to me looked like a flame dancing lighting up the darkness.

[backscatter712]

23. I suppose Bill O'Reilly is gonna have to proclaim Occupy dead... again...

It's like the Friday the 13th movies - Occupy is Jason. Just when everybody thinks Occupy was killed, "MIC CHECK!"

[sabrina 1]

35. He's been declaring them dead since this time last year!

Lol!

[Magoo48]

54. I find it encouraging that (tptb) are so, so scared of Occupy. For now, their authoritarian fear is

a powerful lamp showing the correct path. Occupy has the potential to completely derail the statis-que and "they" at the top know it. We mature, we learn, we occupy. May we still be celebrating this day in 100 years...peace

[sabrina 1]

73. Yes, the reaction of the 1% and their corportate media is the clearest indication of how

successful this Global Movement has been so far. The very last thing they wanted was for the people to wake up and start paying attention to what they've been up to for the past several decades.

I never thought this would still be happening one year later either. It was enough at the time that people were not just demonstrating for a day, but that they planned to be there for at least two weeks. The fact that it spread so quickly was a sign that the people did know what was going on, they just didn't have a way of letting it be known until Sept. 17th last year! Keep up the good work

[Comrade Grumpy]

36. O'Reilly and a cohort of DUers.

[sabrina 1]

39. Yes, but just a small minority, who always did oppose the idea for some reason. A far bigger

majority ARE part of OWS and don't waste much here anymore arguing with supporters of the 1%. That is just a waste of their valuable time and it's clear their minds cannot be changed, because they oppose any opposition to the current system.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Between them. the gungeoneers and the single defender of Mercs

my Iggy list has grown.

It gets to the point that you really stop wasting your time.

[sabrina 1]

45. 'It gets to the point that you really stop wasting your time'

Exactly, that is why you don't see much about OWS on DU anymore. There is far too much to do in RL and elsewhere where the news of OWS is factual, than to waste time arguing with anti-Social Justice movements.

DU is not the place to find info on this huge movement, which has led the opposers to believe it went away! They must be very disappointed today!

These kinds of forums are mainly for partisan politics which is why the major movements that have arisen around the world today and are growing, did not use them but went instead to the Social Media which is extremely successful.

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[xiamiam]

47. exactly.. there are all kinds of folks in the streets today who GET it

I can guarantee you if I posted something about Palin or Joe Scarborough or O Reilly there would be lots of interest. I already know that. Hell will freeze over before I do that or even care about any of them.

These folks are not going to jail or protesting in vain. They give me hope. More hope than anything else. I cant be in the streets right now although the folks in wheelchairs are an inspiration to me. I don't have a wheelchair but walking is difficult. I'd make it about one half block and then be done..but I am so there in heart and spirit.

Naysayers..well, they don't represent me and never have.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. A local story I covered on Friday

with a local-ish member of council who pleaded guilty to two federal counts... I did not bother, nor the rest of the local media did, to write party allegiance. Everybody locally KNOWS IT... it is not relevant to the story. If I bothered with that... it would have remained alive for a lot longer... due to the partisan sentiment... embezzlement just takes a whole different fervor when parties are mentioned.

Alas the office, in theory, is non-partisan. So none of us bothered.

I know, bad reporters. No cookie for me...

[sabrina 1]

75. They give everyone who has longed for someone to start challenging the 1% who are

destroying this nation and many others, hope. They are absolutely wonderful, I feel so proud of them as before OWS, I thought that the American were in a coma, that there was no hope of them ever standing up for themselves.

Naysayers represent the far right who are reacting out of fear. And they don't represent most Americans.

[tama]

76. Dear sabrina

count your self in the 99,999...%. We are all included in the Occupy 'us'.

[sabrina 1]

77. I do. Last night OWS took back Zuccotti Park as I expect they will do every year until

the issues that people all over the world are outraged over, are addressed.

Scenes last night from Zuccotti Park:





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[sabrina 1]

78. Rosh Hashanah in Zuccoti Park on the eve of OWS anniversary:

Rosh Hashanah services were held in the Park last night:

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. Now that would have been a hoot

Goosebumps...last year the ram's horn rand for Yom Kipur.

[HiPointDem]

79. +100