Brian Williams Did Another Of His Disses Of The Dems Last Night

[Me.]

referring to a Rick Wilson quote that essentially said the Dems are too soft and incapable of taking on the Cons. That seems to be one of the reasons for the Lincoln Project.

First of all, let's remember the blowout in 2018 without any help from anyone, quite the opposite. Secondly, no one ever considers how this may be a brilliant move on the DEms part...letting others using their money to do the necessary dirty work. Thus allowing Dems to take the higher road. After all, the Cons put him in office in the first place.

[drray23]

1. I am not sure he is that wrong unfortunately.

Republicans are ruthless and go for simple high impact slogans that are easily remembered.

We dems have values and tend to want to play by the rules and try to make our point with cogent arguments and policies.

He is not arguing that we did not win in 2018, just that taking the high road does not work on a significant fraction of the population.

The messaging we use is often too soft and not straight to the point. Its a known issue that people have been trying to correct.

[lagomorph777]

2. +1 We have to use more direct and simple language.

There's way too much caution and politeness coming from many of our elected Dems. We have to punch harder.

[BamaRefugee]

3. I agree. We usually deal in lofty ideals with a big vocabulary and understanding of references, but

the voters we HAVE TO CONVINCE TO VOTE DEMOCRATIC usually want nothing longer than will fit on a bumper sticker.

Look how fellow DUers are gushing all over Lincoln Project, Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, MEIDAS, but you hear *crickets* about most home grown Democratic ideas.

[uponit7771]

31. +1, lol so true ... even "Defund The Police" is screwed up ! The wording is simple and wrong

[BamaRefugee]

33. maybe the WORST THING EVER and it will be used a million times against us and will get stronger in

weak minds every single time.

[Nikki28]

9. I agree

with this. Time to let Joe be Joe and if he use swear words to spill all of Bolton book,;that is enough to let the media know he is a treason man who brought and bribed his way in the election with the help of Putin. Tine to start saying on social media that Trump stole the elections for him and down tickets and are trying to do it again. I pray Bolton has something on the fearful repuks too because that would explain them sucking up and letting him do anything he wants and get away with every crime. These Dem needs to be out in front with their constitutional lawyers speaking on this and let it play all weekend along with his other failures.Could this be what the Lincoln Project was all about.

[Me.]

14. Your Point Would Go A LOnger Way

if kicking the Dems wasn't a habit with Brian. I might also point out that The polls for both the Presidency and the senate are looking in a very blue direction. And, 72% of the country say it's going in the wrong direction and many are fed up with the Con's behavior.

[LenaBaby61]

16. THIS 👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

The messaging we use is often too soft and not straight to the point. Its a known issue that people have been trying to correct.

[uponit7771]

30. +1, we can go "high" smart and mercilessly while telling the truth

[Grins]

42. I'm with you!

Been saying it for years, Dems either don’t fight at all or the give in too easily.

Hillary caved so quickly after calling the Reich-wingers “Deplorables”.

She should have said, “Yeah, I said it, and I meant it! Prove me wrong!” (“You worthless bags of meat” optional.)

Jesus on a cracker; it’s not like they were going to vote for her anyway.

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. a natural tendency to "go high" has its consequences for sure. We need to be much tougher.

the repubs oversimplfy issues into soundbites and slogans. we try to deal with the complexity in words - but it doesn't work on lots of people. It is like two different games are being played.

[DanieRains]

5. I Can't Comment On Whether I Think Democrats Are Waaaaaaay Too Nice To Republicans

Who want to destroy America.

I will get banned from DU if I say what I think.

Thank God we have Republicans doing the "beating them to death" for us.

I can't comment at all on how I feel about the Democrats lack of attacking true evil on the other side.

A self described pussy grabbing racist who ignores all laws is not ever described as such.

[SharonClark]

18. Stop saying you'll be banned and go for it.

Unless you’re pro-trump or lie about Dems then the worse that would happen is your post would be alerted on.

I want to hear what you have to say.

[LenaBaby61]

19. I will get banned from DU if I say what I think.

I wasn't banned, but my post was removed for saying what I felt/thought.

Whatever happened to constructive criticism?

[BamaRefugee]

34. Been there done that... I posted last year about all the ways trump could mess with the election,

including MILITARY IN THE STREETS and I got taken down for posting "wild fantasies" or however they actually word it.

[Iliyah]

6. Expect more of this as it nears the election . .

Democrats are "weak, soft, incapable, timid, can't get the message out" (besides other stuff) which the republicans have been echoing for years. Other words are cowards, not strong on terrorist, et al.

What I have been reading re: Bolton's book, republicans don't care if they cheat and steal. Let's see if Williams mentions anything about this.

[HotTeaBag]

7. He's right.

The Biden digital team are like toddlers compared to Wilson, Schmidt, Galen etc.

They know how to fight and win. Look how well we did 'without help from anyone' in 2016 against the worst possible candidate in the history of Presidential candidates.

Also, Democrats are not letting others do the dirty work - The Lincoln Project members have identified the threat and are taking it down.

Thank God they're doing what they're doing, Biden needs all the help he can get.

[sfstaxprep]

8. James Carville Has Said Likewise

He said those Never Trumpers are mean and ruthless. That the Democrats could learn a few things from them.

[Me.]

26. And Yet He Also Said Just Last Week

It's going to be a landslide in the Dem's favor

[sfstaxprep]

46. He Said It Might Be A Landslide

He says we're going to win, but he wanted it to be a landslide, otherwise Trumpism will survive.

[stopdiggin]

10. and STILL .. I do not want to become a Republican

or anything that is "modeled" after Republicans. Thank you.

[Midnight Writer]

13. Exactly. The reason I am a Democrat is because I am "nice".

If being a Democrat means adapting to act like a Republican, then what's the point?

We already have a Party of shallow assholes.

[crickets]

29. +1

Being tough when the situation calls for it is a good thing. Being just another one of the thugs... not so much.

[stopdiggin]

32. I was being a little trite

but there's another (serious) side to this as well. The Rs have been playing the demagoguery, race-baiting, dog-whistle card for a long time. Trump didn't invent it .. but he clearly took it to the next (and predictable?) level. And now .. the chickens are really coming home to roost with a lot of the very out racism and nationalism we're seeing today. I don't doubt for a moment that the people responsible for stirring this pot for so many years ..now have real blood on their hands. It's more than just playing dirty politics .. it's about fomenting real violence .. and a real breakdown of social order.

I don't want to have blood on my hands (or conscience) .. and I don't want to foment a breakdown in social order.

And if that makes me namby-pamby, or old school, or a snowflake .. I guess I'll just have to live with that.

[BamaRefugee]

35. and THEY have no intention fo being Democrats, they want the old "stealth" Republican style brought

back, where you get stiffed and robbed by them but there's this veneer of decency and gentlemanliness.

[CatWoman]

11. I think Brian Williams is doing an excellent job

[dmr]

22. I do, too.

[CatWoman]

38. ....

[gratuitous]

12. Yeah, the 2018 election just seems to have disappeared, hasn't it?

Usually a wave election like that serves as a touchstone for the next election. What is the party that got shellacked doing to improve its standing with voters? How are the losers adjusting to try to reach people outside the base? Instead, the Republicans keep chasing their losing bets, narrowing their message to communicate with only the true believers, and bad-mouthing everyone who deviates in even the slightest bit from party orthodoxy.

Where are the media pundits on this?

[stillcool]

15. I think Brian Williams knows very well..

what happens to Democrats in Presidential Politics. The "Dean Scream", is my favorite example. I still can't believe that one...and the swift-boating of John Kerry. They sold "Reverend Wright" for anything they could get. Democrats aren't nice because they want to be. They have to be. Different rules apply.

[Me.]

20. Yes, And Let's Be Honest

he didn't shy away from getting in on that game

[superpatriotman]

17. This Democrat

Is tired of bringing hugs to a gunfight

[LenaBaby61]

28. SAME HERE!

The party of putin is in court NOW wanting to strip us of our health care.

There's no way in hell I'll sit by sweetly & nicely and accept something like that.

[UTUSN]

21. K&R but, well I wanna be tougher, NOT-rising-above. Brian says it softer than MAHER always does.

[JI7]

23. The fact is the media would treat the LP ads differently if they came from Democrats

They would start claiming Democrats are accusing Republicans of hating the US. Or even be outraged that Democrats said Trump was racist.


We can't ignore the media's role in our political system.

For example for at how they were upset at Pelosi referring to Trump's health and calling him obese.

[USALiberal]

24. So you want MSNBC to be like fox news, only saying what you want to hear? nt

[Me.]

25. Oh Get A Grip

What I want if fairness and them not calling both sides as equal in these dire times.

[doc03]

27. I agree with him unfortunately. nt

[cwydro]

36. I'm not a fan of Brian Williams, but all he did was quote Wilson.

I don't see how that is a thing. He's a news man, and he's quoting someone in the news.

Personally, I'm glad that he's giving press to these new ads. Hopefully they'll have some effect.

[Me.]

39. I Too Am Glad The Ads Are Being Shown

and he has toned down his dismissiveness of the Dems lately but it's still there and rears its head still. What I also think is overall, there seems to be a tendency for Dems to be criticized far beyond the Cons. The treatment of HRC is a good example. And at times Dems are no better, they will eat their own. I remember not long ago when Nancy Pelosi was the target du jour. She's past it, too old, ineffective. Candidates made getting rid of her part of their platform. Thank God the naysayers didn't have their way.

[demmiblue]

41. "And at times Dems are no better, they will eat their own."

Yes, I do recall you doing the same in a post about AOC.

Just sayin'.

[Me.]

43. Quite Right

I have criticused her and she returns the favor by doing the same to other Dems

[cwydro]

44. I remember that too.

Yes indeed.

[Hortensis]

37. With all the Republicans' nasty hard hitting ads, election theft,

embedding of partisan liars in the media, and every other dirty trick they can get away with, majorities keep voting for Democrats. I disagree with arguments that we lose because we don't act more like them, when being a clear alternative consistently works for us.

Those conservative Lincoln Project ads, and others, are aimed at potential conservative swing voters, and they faintly copy that nasty characteristic RW sneer on the voiceovers. That's their nasty-mean signature, not ours. Meanness works on conservatives but repels liberals.

We do obviously need to do what does work more and better and also other things, like somehow limit election theft where they hold power. Fair national elections elect Democrats. GOTV of people wired to indifference and keep weak willies from believing anti-Democratic lies -- but we don't do either by affirming lies that we're "just as bad as them," not worth getting off the couch for.

Btw, speaking of, let's remember Biden's principled competence and great victory in negotiating with 2016's illiberal-left leader to create an alliance against the right. That was very right. Very us.

[Me.]

45. +1

[rockfordfile]

40. I agree Democrats are soft. years ago that wasn't the case