Another lie - "It's heritage" - The Confed flag

[packman]

[Hoyt]

1. Heritage of Hatred.

[hack89]

2. I hate bad cherry picked history

The Second Confederate Navy Jack was a rectangular cousin of the Confederate Army's battle flag and was in use from 1863 until 1865. It existed in a variety of dimensions and sizes, despite the CSN's detailed naval regulations. The blue color of the diagonal saltire's "Southern Cross" was much lighter than the dark blue of the battle flag.

Not all battle flags were square.

An elongated version of the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee, and similar to The Second Confederate Navy Jack, in use from 1863 until 1865, although with the darker blue field of the Army's battle flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#Battle_flag

So yes, most confederate soldiers fought under what we consider the confederate flag, both square and rectangular. There is a reason it was so popular then and was adopted by ex-soldiers.

[packman]

3. Ahh- The post has nothing to do with square or rectangular

But thanks for the history lesson

This should be the Confed flag if one is going to wave one:

[hack89]

4. The basic facts are wrong

the Navy Jack is a red herring and it conflates the national flag of the confederacy and the battle flag.

It makes perfect sense that ex-soldiers would revere the battle flag - that is the flag they fought under and many of their comrades died under.

The basic point of the OP is wrong.

[packman]

6. Yah,O.K.

[hack89]

7. Facts can be awkward but adhering to the truth is what makes us different from the repukes. nt

[LanternWaste]

13. But itself can seem both awkward and disingenuous (at best)...

when consistently done to support only one general narrative rather than all.

[hack89]

14. I don't support the Confederate flag

It is a southern racist symbol. I am a northern progressive- I hate that flag.

[LizBeth]

5. Ya, I'm way up in the northwest. When I see it up here, it has not a damn thing to do with heritage.

[eleny]

8. Treason is not a heritage

[JHB]

9. My heritage says it's an enemy flag

Where do you point the cannon? X marks the spot.

[Caliman73]

10. All of the flags were the flags of traitors, or of a hostile nation, period.

No other real way of looking at it. The Confederacy stated that they were their own government, had their constitution, money, etc... It was never recognized by the US, or any other country as legitimate. Therefore they were traitors who took up arms against their own country, to defend the institution of slavery.

If we grant that they formed their own country then their "heritage" is not part of the United States heritage and would be akin to Japanese people celebrating Pearl Harbor Day pro Japanese, or German people celebrating WWI from the perspective of the Wehrmacht.

Every single flag made, used, etc... was the flag of either traitors or enemy combatants and should not be celebrated in the United States.

[keithbvadu2]

11. Confederate flag heritage

Confederate flag heritage

[Gothmog]

12. The flag of treason

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