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napi21

(45,806 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 01:02 AM Jun 2020

Ga. still counting absentee ballots! I have a suggestion for Georgia!!!

Pass a law that absentee or mail in votes can be counted as they come in, & not wait to start on election day! I got this in an email today:

A week after Georgia's primary, tens of thousands of absentee ballots have yet to be counted, stalling complete results and leaving some races in limbo. A Georgia record of 1.1 million absentee ballots caused much of the holdup.

Look for MORE mail in votes in November. I'm sure we don't have the $$ to hire a bunch of people to count votes, so why couldn't we make it OK to count them as they come in? Otherwise, we won't have the results of the election for weeks after the election!

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sandensea

(21,670 posts)
2. I suspect they do that to give themselves time to throw out "spoiled" ballots as they see fit
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 01:09 AM
Jun 2020

Betty Ann Du Bois? Good.

Lindsey Beauregard? Fine.

Tawana Jackson? No good.

Vicente Fernández? Hell no!

fierywoman

(7,694 posts)
3. My German friend told me (in the 80s so I don't know if it is still true) that in Germany
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 01:48 AM
Jun 2020

they count by hand, government workers do the counting: 1 representative from each party for each batch of votes. Each counts all the votes and all of them agree on the numbers, then they send the info to headquarters. If this is true, I wish this is the way it would be done here in the USA.


Igel

(35,359 posts)
7. It's a rather different ballot.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jun 2020

Look at some and compare them.

Here's one: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2014/492/schedule/2/made?view=plain

Note that there are two variants of the 1 form. They actually have a second form--depending if there's a second thing being voted on at the same time. LOL.

Last ballot I remember looking at had dozens of local offices, a dozen state offices, some for federal positions, a half dozen bond or charter measures. I can see local officials trying to count the votes in the ballot booklet, flipping pages to make sure they got all of a person's votes. Imagine the mistakes.

As for no fraud with paper, that's a bad assumption. One of the reasons for the use of machines was to reduce fraud.

"Vote early, vote often" (often with "and vote in pencil, so we can correct your mistakes&quot wasn't an uncommon saying in some places. With paper ballots.

Russia has paper ballots. And merry-go-round voting. And ballot stuffing. And it's not how the people vote, it's who counts the votes. No fraud with paper ballots. That's a good one. (Is that you Volodya, pulling our legs like that?)

diva77

(7,656 posts)
5. Absolutely not -- and the reason is that the cheaters can extrapolate election results and then
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:02 AM
Jun 2020

tweak the vote counting algorithm easter egg in the software code (just one example of how to rig given early voting numbers) .

Unfortunately, GA allows early voting ballots to be counted at the beginning of the day on election day while the polls are open. BAD idea.

Getting accurate results should be the highest priority rather than getting immediate results.

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
6. Meh, CA takes a month to count ballots
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:10 AM
Jun 2020

To count all ballots, that is.

As the old saying goes: fast, cheap, or accurate- choose two.

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