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Is Covid-19 now being used to kill African Americans (Original Post) malaise Jun 2020 OP
No answer but I wondered that myself. Doreen Jun 2020 #1
And seniors SheltieLover Jun 2020 #2
and prisoners Skittles Jun 2020 #8
Yes and prisoners are Skittles points out below malaise Jun 2020 #22
It is a serious question mcar Jun 2020 #3
This is what systemic racism is JI7 Jun 2020 #4
+1 FreeState Jun 2020 #20
Used by whom, would be my question. Mariana Jun 2020 #5
One example atreides1 Jun 2020 #9
Yes, that could be. nt. Mariana Jun 2020 #13
I'll go further - after that statement was made suddenly MAGAts were ready to demand that everything malaise Jun 2020 #23
If anyone wanted to do that-- how would they do that? TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #6
YES !!! 25% of all deaths are AA IINM this is no doubt Red Don's way to win seeing CV19 is affecting uponit7771 Jun 2020 #7
Blue areas are high population density and high minority Amishman Jun 2020 #27
they don't care who dies Skittles Jun 2020 #10
they started demanding reopening when it became know it was killing non-whites more. Cobalt Violet Jun 2020 #11
The percentage of African Americans who have it and die from it is high in Chicago Our mucifer Jun 2020 #12
In Illinois, it's mostly white people who die from Covid19, but ... progree Jun 2020 #14
Great post malaise Jun 2020 #24
the virus is colorblind ... dweller Jun 2020 #15
If so, it's also being used to kill old people and health care workers. Warpy Jun 2020 #16
I thought that was always the point. And I've been hearing that for months. Shell_Seas Jun 2020 #17
Kill the disabled and poor people? I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #18
I think it's more likely that the lack of access to healthcare is Luciferous Jun 2020 #19
Sad thread indeed Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #21
The situational influence is systemic racism malaise Jun 2020 #25
Seriously, it's Trump supporters who are being encouraged into dangerous situations muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #26

mcar

(42,375 posts)
3. It is a serious question
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jun 2020

but given the numbers here in FL, TX and other southern states, IMPOTUS and his cultists are killing many of their own.

I'm seeing, at least at the protests on TV and the small one I attended, AAs, young people and the Democrats who attended were wearing masks.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
5. Used by whom, would be my question.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:53 PM
Jun 2020

I can easily imagine some racists getting positive test results, and going out to try to infect minorities. Do you think there might be some organized effort to do this?

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
9. One example
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jun 2020

When the US Surgeon General made a statement about the effects of the virus on people of color, particularly the black community, he was sidelined for several weeks...and the Trump White House hasn't been pushing the message, either...that would be an indication of an organized effort on the part of the Trump administration to commit genocide!!!

malaise

(269,164 posts)
23. I'll go further - after that statement was made suddenly MAGAts were ready to demand that everything
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 07:51 AM
Jun 2020

be re-opened. Some ReTHUGs were just as indifferent to senior citizens and thought they should sacrifice themselves for the fucking market.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
7. YES !!! 25% of all deaths are AA IINM this is no doubt Red Don's way to win seeing CV19 is affecting
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:57 PM
Jun 2020

... blue areas the worst.

He's willing to sacrifice his minions to kill off dems voting base

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
27. Blue areas are high population density and high minority
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jun 2020

So you have a disproportionate amount of non-white residents in the places with the highest transmission risks. Viruses spread best in crowded areas, crowded areas strongly trend to vote blue.

People of color also have a higher rate of several risk factors including obesity and hypertension

It's a virus, it can't be directed.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
10. they don't care who dies
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jun 2020

but it must feel like a bonus to racist repukes that it strikes POC harder

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
11. they started demanding reopening when it became know it was killing non-whites more.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:03 PM
Jun 2020

I don't believe it's unrelated.

mucifer

(23,566 posts)
12. The percentage of African Americans who have it and die from it is high in Chicago Our
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:05 PM
Jun 2020

mayor and governor have started various programs to promote more testing and they even have free programs for telehealth where they send BP cuffs and pulse oximeters for a few weeks with nurses calling daily. I think it has made a difference. For now we are on the other side of the curve unless it goes up from the protests.

In other states I could see how cutting services and not adding them could be used to kill minorities.

progree

(10,918 posts)
14. In Illinois, it's mostly white people who die from Covid19, but ...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jun 2020

In one of the Facebook pages I frequent, Population Connection's, the admin posted a Guardian article about racial disparities in healthcare, and that this included Covid19 healthcare as well.

Some troll named Kristov Randalov (no I'm not kidding) posted a pie chart from the Illinois Department of Health showing that in Illinois, Non-Hispanic Whites suffered 44% of the Covid19 deaths while Blacks suffered a smaller 28% and Hispanics suffered a yet smaller 20% of the Covid19 deaths. The pie chart dramatically illustrated that more Non-Hispanic Whites died than either Blacks or Hispanics.

And then he concluded that the Guardian article was "just more liberal B.S."

I posted:

Hmm, looking at Kristov's chart and comparing it to Illinois population statistics, it looks like Black and Hispanics combined are 32% of the Illinois population but have 48% of the Covid19 deaths, while Non-Hispanic Whites are 61% of the population but have 44% of the Covid19 deaths.

Doing the math, that means that the Covid19 death rate of Blacks and Hispanics combined are 2.1 times that of Non-Hispanic Whites.

Looking at Blacks and Hispanics separately, Blacks have 2.7 times the Covid19 death rate of Non-Hispanic Whites, while Hispanics have 1.6 times the Covid19 death rate of Non-Hispanic Whites.

Some people just can't seem to be able to grok the concept that one must also look at proportions of the populations, and not just the proportion of the deaths, in order to determine how each demographic is impacted.

Soon afterwards, Comrade Kristov deleted his post.

Illinois Covid19 stats: https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics

Illinois population: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IL

dweller

(23,662 posts)
15. the virus is colorblind ...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jun 2020

but those who are manipulating the outcome are not .. my take ?

culling the population is foremost 🙁

just a gut feeling,
✌🏼

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
16. If so, it's also being used to kill old people and health care workers.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:45 PM
Jun 2020

It's a virus. Its only purpose is to inject itself into a cell, replicate, and move on. It doesn't care about anything else, and it's not really alive.

Just like HIV wasn't used by right wing Christians to kill gay men, this isn't being used by anyone. Oh, I'll admit there might be a stray bigot out there who feels a little off and coughs whenever he gets near a POC, but it's not an organized effort.

What remains to be determined is why people with more melanin in their skin are more susceptible to severe illness. The easy guess would be reduced ability to synthesize vitamin D, along with high rates of lactose intolerance due to an inability to digest D fortified milk. I would suggest all POC get their D levels checked and if they're low, supplement to get them into the recommended range.

Another factor could very well be air quality, since POC are concentrated in areas with high pollution in many areas. Here in NM, San Juan County has a high death rate, 7.4%, that can't be explained any other way, the neighboring country has a rate under 5%, as does much of the state. The difference is the air quality, which is poor up in the 4 Corners area, often some of the worst in the country. If such is the case where anyone is reading this, the course is clear, VOTE. Get those bastards OUT. I will join you in that.

(Oh, and there is a tradeoff for that lower vitamin D synthesis, being able to tolerate solar radiation at low latitudes without developing widespread skin cancer or burning to a crisp. It's an evolutionary adaptation to equatorial areas, both dry and rainforest. It's just a liability at high latitudes without D3 replacement)

Luciferous

(6,085 posts)
19. I think it's more likely that the lack of access to healthcare is
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 12:31 AM
Jun 2020

causing higher numbers in minority groups... this question is a little ridiculous.

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