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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:49 AM Sep 2012

CNN airs the most ridiculous statements yet on Romney.

And how is Mike Bush related to the Bush dynasty?

[div class="excerpt"When a friend tweeted me about a line from CNN’s Romney Revealed documentary, I thought he must have misheard or paraphrased it, but as it turns out, Gloria Borger‘s narration of the Mitt Romney profile really did contain the most ridiculous sentence I’ve ever heard on television, so ridiculous that I’m half-suspicious CNN is actually a cabal of master satirists who are making fun of the Republican presidential candidate.

The portion of the documentary in question covers Mitt Romney’s stint as a door-to-door Mormon recruiter in 1968 France, a duty which helped him to avoid military service in Vietnam. Earlier in the doc, narrator and interviewer Gloria Borger glossed over the fact that Romney sought, and received, four deferments during the Vietnam War (and later lied about it), instead saying simply that he was “exempt as a student, and with a high draft number.
...
Perhaps to avoid charges of bias, the documentary steers clear of these contradictions, but then takes the whitewashing to blindingly absurd levels by introducing the next segment with the aforementioned most ridiculous statement I’ve ever seen on television. “In 1968, France was a dangerous place to be for a 21-year-old American,” Borger says, “but Mitt Romney was right in the middle of it.”

That’s right, in 1968, the year in which the highest number of American deaths in Vietnam were reported (16,592), France was a dangerous place to be for a 21-year-old American who was avoiding service in Vietnam. Aside from the constant danger of having one’s eye put out by an errant baguette, what hardships did Mitt Romney face while he was “in country?”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-airs-the-most-ridiculous-statement-ive-ever-seen-on-television/

More with video at link.

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CNN airs the most ridiculous statements yet on Romney. (Original Post) KurtNYC Sep 2012 OP
Does Bain own part of CNN? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2012 #1
She also said Romney borrowed SOME government money to help make the Olympics as success.. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #5
" 2002 Winter Games in SLC blew the doors off the Treasury—taxpayers paid $1.5 Billion to bail out " The Wielding Truth Sep 2012 #24
1.5 Billion! Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #30
To Mitt I say: "Those Olympic venues in Salt Lake -- you didn't build that" KurtNYC Sep 2012 #35
I watched that piece and didn't know how hard poor Mitt had it. sellitman Sep 2012 #2
What terrible luck this guy has...avoided Nam but woound up in dangerous France KurtNYC Sep 2012 #26
Why say Missionary when you can say "door-to-door Mormon recruiter?" el_bryanto Sep 2012 #3
Fine French wines are definitely dangerous jsr Sep 2012 #4
The most danger he had to face in France was being told "FUCK OFF" in French bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #6
Did he demand they serve him "Freedom Fries"? BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #7
L'horreur. L'horreur. Brickbat Sep 2012 #8
I love the smell of Brie in the morning... Javaman Sep 2012 #25
Paris....shit. Brickbat Sep 2012 #29
Maybe she's referring to his car accident. Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #9
this one... KurtNYC Sep 2012 #31
The only thing that happened in France in 1968 was the general strike. Maybe all sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #10
France was a little more tumultuous than that in 1968 Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #42
He was just lucky he never caught VD over there! Hubert Flottz Sep 2012 #11
"But, it was drafty in the castle late at night!" Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #12
America could also be dangerous place. gordianot Sep 2012 #13
Second Hand Smoke At The French Restaurants.....nt global1 Sep 2012 #14
and escargots nt LiberalEsto Sep 2012 #15
Also, a rogue red balloon might have obscured your field of vision Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #23
Wing nuts need to know that Romney speaks French and loves the French. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #16
Gloria Borger is one of the worst, most blatantly pro-repuke reporters out there... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #17
it was the cheese.... James48 Sep 2012 #18
I guess when you're a greedy proselytizing asshole, any place can be dangerous for you. nt valerief Sep 2012 #19
Vietnam vets feel for Mitt, being in the middle of it like that and all... pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #20
I'll tell you what other dangers... ejbr Sep 2012 #21
Sharing the road on a bicyle with French drivers is as dangerous as it got. Ganja Ninja Sep 2012 #22
From left wing terrorists. caseymoz Sep 2012 #27
oh what nonsense that is. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #33
I'm just saying caseymoz Sep 2012 #36
I was there at the time. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #37
They could have always changed strategies, caseymoz Sep 2012 #38
You are being ridiculous. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #39
No, that wasn't my argument. caseymoz Sep 2012 #41
Must have been tough dodging those crepe grenades. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #28
In 68 France was a fucking great place to be if you were an american kid Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #32
I heard there was a big food fight back then envolving du fromage, du pain and a nice bordeaux. Lint Head Sep 2012 #34
Good God, in 1968 I was a freshman at the American College in Paris aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #40

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
5. She also said Romney borrowed SOME government money to help make the Olympics as success..
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:04 AM
Sep 2012

Actually he borrowed many hundreds of millions. Why didn't she say that if she wasn't trying to make Romney seem more successful than he was?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
30. 1.5 Billion!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:55 PM
Sep 2012

No wonder he had a successful Olympics! The only thing he was/is good at is extracting money from the Government or someone else and then putting it in his own greedy pockets/Swiss bank account ect. The man is a total fraud and blight on our country.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
35. To Mitt I say: "Those Olympic venues in Salt Lake -- you didn't build that"
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:38 PM
Sep 2012

SLC had to use sweetheart real estate deals (bribes) and prostitutes to get a deal THAT bad form the IOOC ?!

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
2. I watched that piece and didn't know how hard poor Mitt had it.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:57 AM
Sep 2012

A profound new respect materialized in me for that brave young Chickenhawk.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. Why say Missionary when you can say "door-to-door Mormon recruiter?"
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:00 AM
Sep 2012

I mean one definitely makes Mormons seem more alien and extreme, right?

Bryant

jsr

(7,712 posts)
4. Fine French wines are definitely dangerous
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:03 AM
Sep 2012

even to this day.

But, we don't know how much he drank.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
6. The most danger he had to face in France was being told "FUCK OFF" in French
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:06 AM
Sep 2012

by people that didn't want to give up drinking wine just to satisfy his own little ridiculous belief system.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
10. The only thing that happened in France in 1968 was the general strike. Maybe all
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

those 'socialists' just frightened little Mitt.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
11. He was just lucky he never caught VD over there!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:26 AM
Sep 2012

I wonder how many wives he added to his GAGgle?

Edit...I wonder if Mitt was hanging out with Joachim Peiper?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
12. "But, it was drafty in the castle late at night!"
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:40 AM
Sep 2012

"And sometimes, the staff could be a tad surly when asked to make the crepes just how I liked them!"

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
13. America could also be dangerous place.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:53 AM
Sep 2012

My Mother in law told the story of her land lady who kept a bucket of water by the door just for Mormon Missionaires and Jehovah Witness, they were not to popular during WWII.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
23. Also, a rogue red balloon might have obscured your field of vision
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

causing you to trip and tumble down the steps of Montmarte.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
17. Gloria Borger is one of the worst, most blatantly pro-repuke reporters out there...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

I'm surprised she's not called on it more.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. Vietnam vets feel for Mitt, being in the middle of it like that and all...
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:23 PM
Sep 2012




Fortunate Son
Recorded by Creedence Clearwater Revival
Written by John Fogerty

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! More! More! yoh

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no





Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
22. Sharing the road on a bicyle with French drivers is as dangerous as it got.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:27 PM
Sep 2012

The manservant peddling around behind his limo was risking life and limb.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
27. From left wing terrorists.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:50 PM
Sep 2012

Every country in Western Europe then had Communist anti-American factions. Some of it due to Vietnam War. France had the Action Directe.

In Italy, the Red Brigades actually kidnapped and murdered a former Prime Minister, Aldo Moro.

In West Germany, the Red Army Faction.

However, as far as I know, this never stopped American Tourism to Europe. And it wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as going to Vietnam. But if you had to go around France and knock on doors as an American, you would make a more satisfying target than average.
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
33. oh what nonsense that is.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

"wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as going to Vietnam." well yes that would be correct, where on a scale of danger from 1 - 10, France would be a 1 and Vietnam would be a 10.

The red army faction, oddly enough, was not targeting american kids in europe, nor were they doing anything in France, door to door mormons or otherwise.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
36. I'm just saying
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:41 PM
Sep 2012

since danger was there at all, CNN could bullshit without lying. Any American city at that time was much more dangerous than anywhere in France. New York would probably rate a 2 on your scale overall. Some sections were probably a 3.

In hindsight, yes, it's clear that they weren't targeting American kids. At the time, however, you didn't know what strategy they'd follow, nor where and how they'd strike.

I'm just saying, CNN told a little of the truth, perhaps enough to keep their consciences from feeling soiled.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
38. They could have always changed strategies,
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 06:51 PM
Sep 2012

. . . and not told you. As I said, it's only in hindsight you can see how safe you were, you couldn't know it at the time.

But why are we arguing this? We both agree that CNN gave a line bullshit. It had a little truth to it, but the best lies always do.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
39. You are being ridiculous.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:01 PM
Sep 2012

We are arguing because you keep insisting that there was some credibility to the statement, and your argument appears to be "sure, there was no threat to american tourists in europe, but in some alternate universe there could have been". The statement was utter palpable bullshit.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
41. No, that wasn't my argument.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:12 AM
Sep 2012

The OP asked what "danger" could have possibly referred to. I gave him an example. A "threat" I remembered reading about at the time. If you didn't know I was answering that direct question, then I can understand how you got that idea. Otherwise, I don't understand why you got a chip on your shoulder about this.

The only way you could say, with the information available at the time, there was no trace of a threat to US citizens is to claim those Leninist, anti-American groups did not exist. Those groups had no reason to be honorable to the capitalist pigs. Because we had been ratty on foreign policy.

If you understand the term "in hindsight" as a comparison to an alternate universe, then your concept is invalid, pure and simple. That's not what it means. Those are two utterly different concepts and neither one implies the other.

Therefore, if that's what you think I meant, then you base it on a conceptual error. Pressing it any further now is simply forcing a straw man. I won't get drawn into it.

But you're antagonism makes me suspicious that maybe the subject at hand isn't what pisses you off. I begin to think this is personal.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
32. In 68 France was a fucking great place to be if you were an american kid
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:57 PM
Sep 2012

unless of course you were a total Neidermeyer dickwad like rMoney.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
40. Good God, in 1968 I was a freshman at the American College in Paris
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:07 PM
Sep 2012

along with several hundred other Americans. I went everywhere, into all kinds of music clubs at all hours of the night and nothing ever happened. It was a lot safer looking than the downtown section of the average American city.

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