Skincare CEO Calls Police on Man of Color for Stenciling 'Black Lives Matter' on His Own Home

[CatWoman]

Skincare CEO ‘Karen’ Calls Police on Man of Color for Stenciling ‘Black Lives Matter’ on His Own Home

A San Francisco “Karen” was filmed calling the police on a man of color after she saw him stenciling “Black Lives Matter” on a neighborhood wall. Turns out that wall was part of the man’s own home.

Wrote Jaimetoons on Twitter: “A white couple call the police on me, a person of color, for stencilling a #BLM chalk message on my own front retaining wall. ‘Karen’ lies and says she knows that I don’t live in my own house, because she knows the person who lives here. #blacklivesmatter”

In the video shared by Jaimetoons, the “Karen,” who was later identified as Lisa C. Alexander, the founder and CEO of Laface Skincare, and another man are seen questioning Jaimetoons about whether it’s his property, telling him that he’s free to express his opinion but that he can’t do what he’s doing.

“It’s private property,” insisted Alexander.

“But if I did live here and this was my property this would be absolutely fine,” Jaimetoons responded. “And you don’t know if I live here or if this is my property.”

“We actually do know,” Alexander snapped back. “We know the person who does.”

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https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/skincare-ceo-karen/?fbclid=IwAR26AzVByJDeD0k941LkEei0UyBjWENx2qS33Tg5OsXzgElgE4-2C8F3XTw

[Freethinker65]

1. I saw this. Was wondering how long it would take to identify her.

[tulipsandroses]

2. Cue the I'm not racist apology when people start boycotting her business

I wonder what would happen if black people started questioning the things that they find annoying by white people and demanding that they answer them. SMDH, everytime I see white people demanding black people answer them. Thinking they have the right to stop and question black people at their will. I wonder what would happen if the tables are turned?

[Mariana]

3. I hope he recorded what happened when the cops showed up. nt.

[CatWoman]

4. After Alexander was identified on social media, she deleted her Twitter account.

She was also dumped by the subscription beauty service Birchbox, which tweeted: “We condemn the actions of Lisa Alexander. We have not worked with LAFACE for several years & as a result of the CEO’s actions today have officially cut ties with them. We’ve removed their products from our website & will not be working with them in the future. #blacklivesmatter”

https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/skincare-ceo-karen/?fbclid=IwAR26AzVByJDeD0k941LkEei0UyBjWENx2qS33Tg5OsXzgElgE4-2C8F3XTw

[Maraya1969]

12. She is getting creamed on FB. Pun was a happy accident.

[Cha]

39. Thanks for that.. it's always good to see the Racist, Lying,

Trolls get outed. They're so stupid

[MLAA]

5. And for fuck sakes...he was doing it in chalk!

What assholes that couple are.

[Luz]

99. All alone. In broad daylight. On a seemingly quiet street.

See me, I woulda assumed he lived there. I probably woulda said "nice 👍", waved and kept going. He probably would have said "thanks" and had himself a good afternoon.

People should know when to mind their own business is all I'm saying.

[struggle4progress]

6. "Wait! Those people are allowed own homes in my neighborhood? Since when?"

[mr_lebowski]

7. Aha, I supposed right (in another thread that didn't list the city) ...

I thought that was SF.

Much of The City has a particular 'look'.

Plus the PG&E cover in the sidewalk was a bit of a hint.

From watching it I feel like they actually believe that they DO know that it's not his house, even though they clearly don't know that.

Also, it's clear that Karen is very aware that it 'looks bad' what she's doing ... and is acting quite polite as a result ... but she can't help herself.

It's all really trippy to me.

Not even San Francisco is immune to this crap.

Come to think of it, it's not as liberal as people think it is there overall.

[Dream Girl]

9. I'm black and live just south of SF In an affluent suburb. I had something similar happen

A neighbor texted me that he daughter Had seen my cat had been it by a car. I was exactly sure where so I drove around looking for him. It’s wasn’t long before some white dad type was following me. When I stopped he came aware and asked me what I was doing in the neighborhood. Said “can I help you?” and something about “recent break ins in the neighborhood” This despite me being in my late 50s driving a Prius. That is to say, I don’t think is even fit the racist stereotype of a burglar except for my skin color of course. I told him to fuck off and gave him holy hell. He slunk away with his tail between ins legs.

[Maraya1969]

14. What happened to your cat? Did you find him?

[Dream Girl]

19. Sadly I never did. We think a coyote of some other animal must have gotten him he was much loved

In our little cul de sac. He used to clime on people’s roofs and spy on people’s going ons though their sky lights. He deeply loved one little guy and used to wait for her to get home from school everyday. We all cried when we lost him.

[Maraya1969]

22. I'm so sorry. He sounds like he was a really cool cat.

[cwydro]

73. I keep seeing so many of these things in California.

Fascinating.

[spooky3]

8. I don't know how he kept from snarking about

Whether stenciling his own wall is different from walking around with an extreme face lift.

[aeromanKC]

10. You know the person who lives here personally??

Well, that's odd, I do not know you.

[Beakybird]

11. Is there evidence that she called the police?

[spooky3]

16. Yes, according to the homeowner and to several

Media accounts.

[Chiyo-chichi]

13. I'd like to see L.A. Reid and Babyface, founders of LaFace Records,

sue Ms. Anderson for trademark infringement.

[la-trucker]

15. facepalm doesn't do enough justice to what I felt

Stupid woman ... now her life will never be the same.

At least she was more polite than the other "Karens"

[spooky3]

17. The power of white privilege--it doesn't occur to people like

Lisa Alexander that if they confront an actual criminal they could be putting themselves in extreme danger. They just expect the target to cower in their presence and meekly do as they ask.

[Bleacher Creature]

18. Why aren't these people being cited for filing false police reports??

This is happening far too often. I get that they usually get "punished" by being outed online, but this has to be a waste of police resources and should come with some form of consequences.

[madville]

24. It depends on their intent

They have to knowingly file a false report. Reporting suspicious activity is not going to be considered a crime even if the caller is wrong.

If a subject is painting graffiti on a wall and someone calls the cops because they think it's vandalism but it's actually the painter's wall, that's not a false report if the caller doesn't know if it's legit or not. Being wrong does not equal filing a false report.

[LiberalArkie]

37. They are really hoping that the black person will be swatted. Bring some excitement into her life.

[Bleacher Creature]

54. Thanks, that makes sense.

[SoonerPride]

20. This shit drives me CRAZY.

He was 1000x more calm and reasonable than I would have been.

I would have said “shut the fuck up you goddamned racist! You don’t know me. You don’t know who owns this property. You don’t know if they PAID me to stencil this. You don’t know if I OWN this property myself. You have no right to speak to me at all! I am not your employee or servant or slave. I don’t have to fucking acknowledge you even exist. Who the fuck do YOU think YOU are. Fuck off.”

Like I said. He was much more reasonable than I would be.

[delisen]

21. the man Robert-no one cares he made same accusation

So who is Robert, where does he work, does he own a. business, is he a privileged exec' no one wants to know ?

Is he a "karen" or does he as man get a pass?

[Lucinda]

75. he was identified on twitter last night...

cant remember the details

[spooky3]

86. According to Mr. Juanillo, Robert actually started the

incident and Lisa then took over.

See the interview:

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/on-air/as-seen-on/raw-james-juanillo-full-interview/2309020/

[dalton99a]

23. Lisa C. Alexander

[volstork]

29. Too much

Botox.

[lillypaddle]

30. Wow, what a looooong finger

or is that a skinny dildo?

[Cha]

46. Yow

[Corgigal]

49. Wait,

I’m suppose to want to look like that?

I’m gonna make myself a drink , and thank my lucky stars.

[betsuni]

64. Call an exorcist!

[madville]

25. Her FEC contributions

are to a conservative PAC, WINRED. Go figure........

[spooky3]

70. Thank you. Just confirms what we are thinking. Nt

[Lock him up.]

110. A liar, an authoritarian, a racist.

She checks all the boxes.

She should run for the Russiapublican nomination in 3 years.

She would get nominated for sure.

Lock him up.

[yardwork]

26. She was very condescending and patronizing, too.

She sounded like she was talking to a child. That's a "tell" for racism and attitudes of white superiority.

She assumed that he was not the owner, and felt she had the right to "correct" him, as if he didn't know any better.

As a white woman, watching that made me furious.

[Goodheart]

28. No, she wasn't. She was being as respectful as the situation called for.

Choose your battles, really.

[yardwork]

32. I disagree very strongly. She wasn't respectful at all.

She spoke in a condescending manner, assuming that he didn't have the right to do what he was doing, as if he didn't even know better.

Her behavior made my skin crawl. She would have behaved very differently if she hadn't assumed that she was superior to him. Her behavior is the definition of racism.

[Goodheart]

33. You see what you want to see, I fear.

[yardwork]

35. No need to be fearful, honey. It's all right.

Nobody is going to hurt you. It's just the internet. People disagreeing with you are nothing to fear. See? It's ok.

[Cha]

48. No FEAR! smh

omg!

[cwydro]

74. The guy could have just answered her question and said he lived there.

That's what I would have done. Why make everything into a confrontation?

Internet fame I guess.

[PTWB]

81. Perhaps exposing her racism is important?

[yardwork]

88. He was understandably angry at the way she and the other man treated him.

Watching it, I feel angry too. Everything in the woman's approach was condescending and demeaning to him.

She assumed that he was vandalizing private property, and she even assumed that he didn't know any better. She spoke to him as if he were a child. She patronized him, "praising" him for his signs ("that's good" she says) but explaining in condescending tones that writing on other people's property is wrong.

Her behavior was the definition of racism and attitudes of white superiority. I'm glad that she's been exposed.

[StarfishSaver]

90. Why does he need to answer her questions

It was the woman who demanded to see the black man's papers who started the confrontation, not the black man who chose not to submit to her interrogation.

[cwydro]

98. He doesn't have to, obviously.

But if someone came up to me and asked that, I would be happy to point out that it was my property.

Ymmv.

[StarfishSaver]

101. You probably don't have people of other races regularly challenging your right

to be in your own space, just because they think people of your race probably shouldn't be there but they have a right to demand that you justify your presence to them.

When it happens enough, you wouldn't be quite so "happy to point out" that you have every right to be there.

[CatWoman]

38. I agree with Yardwork

she just managed to be "nice nasty".

[essme]

62. Third agreement

She was talking down to the homeowner.

I am so sick of these people- I am glad they are being shunned on social media.

[SMC22307]

87. I'm a white woman and saw that patronizing "blessed" Southern look about her.

Phony "nice" or "polite" then stabbing you in the back. Or in this case, the front. We all know she wouldn't have spoken the same way to a bunch of white kids drawing on the sidewalk. No fear, reality.

[spooky3]

69. Agree. I started to give her a little benefit of the doubt, but

As soon as he caught her in a lie about knowing the homeowner, it was very clear what was behind her behavior. If she were well-intentioned, when he asked his question, she should have realized what she had done, and apologized profusely, and introduced herself as a neighbor. Then she should have gone home and reflected on her racism and privilege.

[StarfishSaver]

63. Most black people in America know that exact tone

And we know the people using it on us aren't being "respectful."

[PTWB]

78. Respectful??

I guess YOU see what you want to see. She was being a know it all, condescending, racist Karen.

[rusty fender]

95. Really?

[Demsrule86]

104. Complete bullshit...again by demanding he tell her anything, she was out of line.

What make people like this think an adult Black man needs to answer to them? The should mind their own damn business...maybe if enough of them lose their jobs, their companies...it will end.

[Goodheart]

27. Sorry, but if I saw somebody writing graffiti on a house, and I thought it was somebody else's,

I'd call the cops, too.

Easy enough to clear that up.

And I'd want others, black or white, to intervene if my property was being written upon.

I don't see the outrage here. Sorry.

[blueniteflower]

31. Wow

There have been people who have died because someone called the police on them. She is allowed to lie, especially by claiming to know who lives there? If the police showed up, it doesn't matter what the man says or even shows his ID, they are going to believe her. Look at various reports of black people in nice neighborhood. A black doctor got arrested for helping the homeless right outside his home because someone called the cops on him. So yes, this is a problem.

[Goodheart]

41. I didn't say she was allowed to lie.

And we don't know for sure that she did.

Also, would you disband all neighborhood watch groups? Because that's essentially what they do. Look out for other people's property.

Sorry, I'm not outraged. You can be. But that's on you.

[jmg257]

47. Wasn't George Zimmerman Doing neighborhood watch?

Doesn’t always work out so well.
“Community policing” coming your way.

[RockRaven]

53. We do know that she did lie. She claimed to know the person who lived there.

The person who lives there is the man she was accosting. She lied to try to justify her interference and got caught doing it.

[Quixote1818]

96. Bingo. nt

[Demsrule86]

105. I am putting you on ignore...seriously don't want to read this on a Democratic site.

[yardwork]

34. Did you watch the video?

[Goodheart]

44. Yes, I watched the video.

No outrage here. Sorry. If she genuinely believed she knew the owner of the property I support what she did.

[obamanut2012]

65. Your post is literally gaslighting

And, I'm glad to see people calling you out.

So, it's okay she did this to the guy who owned the house, because she sincerely thought she knew the guy who lived there, even though it was the guy in front of her whom she called the cops on.

Like wtaf.

I see you.

[Goodheart]

66. "If she genuinely believed she knew the owner of the property I support what she did."

Turns out she didn't. She lied. That became clear to me later with follow up investigation.

[CatWoman]

40. you sound like my cat as I imagine when she's judging me

[Skittles]

42. aw man I HATE it when cats do that

[CatWoman]

45. LOL!!!!

[Skittles]

51. whatever you think I DID, I didn't DO IT!!!

I was screaming that at my cat last night

[CatWoman]

55. ......

[Skittles]

61. I can PROVE IT!!!!!

[CatWoman]

67. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Stop it!!

[Cal Carpenter]

50. It was his house and she flat out lied about knowing whose house it was

I'm not outraged, I'm amused. And I'm only given the luxury to be amused in this case, because we are seeing this video rather than a video of the cops harassing him, or hurting him or killing him.

But I'm also angry, because this is racism on display, and racism makes me angry. She thought she was right, and she lied, because she was so confident she was right. And the only way she could honestly think she was right is if she was a racist. He wasn't behaving badly. He wasn't breaking a law. But there was no way, in her mind, that that man could own that property and legally do that.

Do you think if a blonde, white child was writing #BLM with chalk she would have reacted the same way? Would she have thought it was cute?

This is how white people who don't think they are racist are, sometimes, actually racist. Women who would do this, or who would watch this and think she was being polite or respectful. And this is why all white people need to check themselves and work harder.

[StarfishSaver]

92. This is a perfect illustration of "microaggression"

And the "Oh, come ON. She was just asking him a question!" reactions here are perfect illustrations of how they work.

[Demsrule86]

52. First of all, it wasn't her property...she is a racist piece of crap... people should mind their own

business. I hope she and all like her go bankrupt.

[scrabblequeen40]

57. Would you call the cops when you don't know who lives there?

That's the question. How would you know that the "graffiti" artist was the owner? By his "looks?"

Lisa Alexander apparently didn't know who lived there, but saw "graffiti" and jumped to conclusions.

I'm all for "see something, say something" but if that something is merely the man's skin color, you got no business policing other people based on their looks. You could be wrong. And that black guy could be dead.

That's the reason why people are outraged.

[Goodheart]

60. I see from a tweet she made later that she didn't confirm she actually knew the home owner

so, yes, I'm going to have to agree that she lied, jumped to conclusions, probably on an expectation of who would be living there.

That's not acceptable.

I do agree with her when she says "Being a good neighbor is important where everyone takes care of each other. ”

Still not outraged.

[Solomon]

68. Sigh. Keep digging your hole. You'll be in China soon.

[tonedevil]

71. Not being outraged...

is your privilege..

[MrsCoffee]

72. Anyone not outraged is part of the problem.

[scrabblequeen40]

79. Your kind of "good neighbor" approach gets black people killed

To be clear, are you saying you're okay with putting black peoples' lives at risk because "that's what good neighbors do?"

Really? No outrage?

Wow. That's privilege right there.

[Goodheart]

84. Mr. Jamestoon obviously didn't think calling the cops would put his life at risk

He ENCOURAGED HER TO DO IT. Twice, in fact.

I'm not saying that he was under any obligation to tell her, but this would have been no situation at all if he had told her from the start that he was the property owner. Instead, he wanted to make a point. He made it. It's a good one.

She made a racist presumption about ownership and that's bad, very bad. That part is loathsome. He demonstrated that. Bravo. But, no, I'm still not outraged that she called the police. I'll repeat... he wanted her to.

[SMC22307]

89. His name is James Juanillo and evidently he knows the cops in his 'hood.

Juanillo said he knows many of the police officers in the neighborhood and that they didn’t even get out of their car when checking out the call shortly after the video was taken.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/06/14/black-lives-matter-pacific-heights-video-confronted-lisa-alexander-jaimetoons/

Calling the cops over freakin' chalk is ridiculous. You and I both know she wouldn't have done the same to a bunch of white kids writing cheerful messages to their mail and delivery persons.

[Demsrule86]

103. Here is the thing...why do white racist like this woman get to demand answers from People of color?

He didn't have to tell her a damn thing. I hope she loses her company.

[niyad]

59. First of all, it was NOT the house, but a retaining wall. Helps to have these basic facts correct t.

[Tink41]

83. His response

is the reason for the outrage. Based on human patterns of behavior if he was defacing property the response would have been different. She should have recognized that right away. For example 'if you catch someone in the act of doing anything they should not be doing, 99% of the time they are going to take off." Or perhaps start to argue loudly. NOT calmly almost on the verge of laughter respond to your query.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

111. then you will never see. you probably call cops on kids with sidewalk chalk too

pathetic

[Iggo]

36. "That's not who I am."

Video to the contrary.

[Skittles]

43. OMG, yet another one who doesn't know who they are

it's like an epidemic lately

[uponit7771]

107. +1, a bunch of people don't realize their assholes to others

[AlexSFCA]

56. and we are only seeing a tiny fraction of crap like this

happening every minute somewhere. We are only seeing stuff that got recorded. It makes me happy to see the reaction is swift, almost immediate - that should be a lesson to those wanna pull their inner Karen. She could have gotten him killed via a racist cop.

[warmfeet]

58. This is a very good thing.

It lets us know who the racist assholes are.

I am glad the government does not prevent these assholes from outing themselves.

The first amendment rocks!

[SMC22307]

76. The chalk artist is a gay Filipino who has lived in the neighborhood for 18 years...

and runs (an obviously successful) dog-walking business.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/06/14/black-lives-matter-pacific-heights-video-confronted-lisa-alexander-jaimetoons/

Didn't check to see if posted above, but I found it interesting.

[albacore]

77. Hey... quitchyerbichen... she was a POLITE racist!

Did you notice the neighborhood? Hardly "ghetto". And the guy was using a stencil, fercrissakes! You know many antifa/activists/whatever who use stencils? And chalk? This is a very mild revolutionary.
What's the problem with just minding your own fucking business?

[demmiblue]

80. She is talking to him like he is a freakin' 5 y.o., not a grown ass man.

[Snake Plissken]

82. Let's just take the racist competent out of this for a moment

because being a piece of shit racist pretty much speaks for itself and Lisa C. Alexander deserves to be exposed for what she is and she can take her Laface Skincare products and stick them up her ass


but how fucking stupid does someone need to be to continue on like this when they are being recorded on video?


The mindbogglingly dumb arrogance of the these Karens is astounding

[spooky3]

85. Very interesting interview with Mr. Juanillo here:

Last edited Sun Jun 14, 2020, 02:38 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/on-air/as-seen-on/raw-james-juanillo-full-interview/2309020/

[FreeState]

93. Thanks for posting this

Seems like a great guy and the interview was very interesting. Almost had to laugh when he took ownership of his “Karen”.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

91. K&R

[RandiFan1290]

94. Three Stages of Karening

[uponit7771]

108. THIS !!!

[Tipperary]

97. Not the south, again.

CA is heavily represented in these videos. Funny.

[LiberalFighter]

100. She claimed to know who lives there.

But strange that she appears to lives quite a few homes down the street. Seriously doubt she knows more than one or two people in the area.

[PatSeg]

102. I tried to go to LaFace Skincare's website

and Bitdefender blocked the page: The certificate used to encrypt your connection to this website does not match the domain it was issued for. Attackers might try to steal sensitive information from you, such as passwords or credit cards.

[spooky3]

106. Update: both Lisa and Robert have apologized, per multiple reports. Nt

[rufus dog]

109. So I bet $100 that she is a USC grad

Now off to look. For those of you not in CA, .... Ignorant, condescending pieces of shit, 80% chance they are an SC grad.

For the liberal SC grads, I apologize. Sad that you picked a school full of ignorant, condescending pieces of shit.

Now off to check my theory.