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rachel1

(538 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:20 PM Sep 2012

Far-right German group plans to show anti-Islamic film

A far-right Islamophobic group in Germany has said it wants to screen the anti-Islamic film that has sparked deadly protests across the Muslim world.

The Pro Deutschland Citizens' Movement has already posted the trailer for Innocence of Muslims, which insults the prophet Muhammad, on its website. Now it says it wants to stage a screening of the film in Berlin.

"For us, it's a question of art and freedom of expression," Manfred Rouhs, the group's head, told Der Spiegel magazine.

The authorities are determined to use whatever legal means at their disposal to prevent the move. "Such groups and organisations only want to provoke Germany's Muslims," the interior minister, Hans-Peter Friedrich, told the magazine. He accused them of "recklessly pouring oil on the fire".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/16/germany-group-anti-islamic-film

Unlike the US where idiots are allowed to insult Muslims on the basis of their religion and avoid most if not any punishment, it's a good thing that more progressive countries, such as Germany, realize that that kind of hate speech should never be tolerated and spewed in order to incite hatred and violence.

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Far-right German group plans to show anti-Islamic film (Original Post) rachel1 Sep 2012 OP
You think the First Amendment should be redone so that "hate speech" is no longer protected? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #1
Hate speech that results in violence ought to be rachel1 Sep 2012 #4
Seriously former-republican Sep 2012 #8
Agree. N/t. okieinpain Sep 2012 #18
Also it should be made illegal former-republican Sep 2012 #5
On DU that will get you PPR. RobertEarl Sep 2012 #14
yeah god forbid we insult muslims or christians or third day hoppists loli phabay Sep 2012 #2
The US is in a unique position with responsibilities RobertEarl Sep 2012 #9
If Muslims can be so easily provoked to violence 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #3
its is kind of funny, dont you dare say we are violent or we will kill you, loli phabay Sep 2012 #6
Do the majority of Christians police the nuts on their side? jberryhill Sep 2012 #7
id say yes, you dont get the same level of assceptance when some nut goes of the deep end loli phabay Sep 2012 #10
I got Peter Popoff offering me his Miracle Spring Water! jberryhill Sep 2012 #11
hell if the nuts who follow the other nuts preaching just sold us bottled water rather than holy war loli phabay Sep 2012 #12
They're both after the same thing jberryhill Sep 2012 #13
not sure i get selling you spring water and your death if your an apostate or gay loli phabay Sep 2012 #15
idiots are also to allowed to post pro-censorship bullshit here in America cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #16
Well outsideworld Sep 2012 #17
Really agree. Lol,hell every free country okieinpain Sep 2012 #20
Keep that shit in Germany. There will be "freedom of response." nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #19

rachel1

(538 posts)
4. Hate speech that results in violence ought to be
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:48 PM
Sep 2012

scrutinized and modified to criminalize those who KNOW their behaviors will result in violence.

Are the US embassy attacks not good enough as evidence?

It's not as if there are already free-speech limits on defamation, slander, riot incitement, harassment, etc. and thankfully those kinds of speech are criminalized.

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
8. Seriously
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:15 AM
Sep 2012

You're talking about going as far as making a cartoon that offends a religion illegal in this country.

Really ...

That's scary you think like that.
Whats next.......
Make it illegal if a political cartoon offends someone.





 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
5. Also it should be made illegal
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:50 PM
Sep 2012

to protest the government. Lets also make it a crime to deny the Holocaust.
Prison sentence for anyone in the U.S that does.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. On DU that will get you PPR.
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:46 AM
Sep 2012

And for good reason.

There need to be some limits to keep kooks from causing hurt.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
2. yeah god forbid we insult muslims or christians or third day hoppists
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:44 PM
Sep 2012

its about time we had daily mocking in all the media,

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
9. The US is in a unique position with responsibilities
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:25 AM
Sep 2012

It makes no sense for the US to be seen disrespecting any religion. But at this point we are seen as disrespectful by many. This is a global position which the US finds itself and we must tread carefully.

Germany, which suffered much from disrespectful leaders knows better than to let that cat out of the bag.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
3. If Muslims can be so easily provoked to violence
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:47 PM
Sep 2012

and so readily doesn't that kind of argue some of their points?

"Islam is a violent religion that cannot integrate in to our free and law based society"
-no it isn't and you can't say that or they'll riot and kill everyone!

Best solution here: they are free to air it. Muslims protest peacefully and do nothing else.

That is what I would like to see happen everywhere. That is the kind of world I'd like to live in.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
6. its is kind of funny, dont you dare say we are violent or we will kill you,
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 10:51 PM
Sep 2012

its probuably going to need the majority of muslims to stand up and say to the nuts shut tha feck up but its something i dont see happening in my lifetime.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. I got Peter Popoff offering me his Miracle Spring Water!
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:30 AM
Sep 2012

He rakes in a mint. Glad to know he hasn't gone off the deep end.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
12. hell if the nuts who follow the other nuts preaching just sold us bottled water rather than holy war
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:34 AM
Sep 2012

then we would all be good.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. They're both after the same thing
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:38 AM
Sep 2012

And they both use the same techniques.

And they both are unrepresentative of anyone who thinks they are a "normal" adherent of the respective nominal faiths.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
15. not sure i get selling you spring water and your death if your an apostate or gay
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:49 AM
Sep 2012

or if you insult someones god as the same thing.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
20. Really agree. Lol,hell every free country
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:33 AM
Sep 2012

On earth should show the stupid movie. Lets see them hit up all of those embassies

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