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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:45 PM Jun 2020

**Heads up: There's busloads of troops entering the WH complex right now**

Last edited Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:23 PM - Edit history (1)



Patsy Widakuswara @pwidakuswara

At least 6 busloads of soldiers were dropped off near the @WhiteHouse. No one would tell me anything (unit, numbers, orders) except that they are coming in not going out. A soldier started speaking to me and was reprimanded.

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6:25 PM - Jun 5, 2020 · Washington, DC


On edit: Apparently there was confusion regarding the tweets that I included for context from previous days (included to illustrate an escalation) so I've removed them.

Here's another Tweet from Jim Acosta of CNN:


Jim Acosta ✔@Acosta

Seeing a large number of US military members coming in on busses just outside EEOB by WH. Some tell us they are rotating in for weekend duty.

View image on Twitter

6:24 PM - Jun 5, 2020


So he's being told it's a rotation. Let's see if the same number of troops leave.

On edit again. I want to also point out the Mayor Bowser said the troops are no longer necessary since the protests have been peaceful for several days now. Yet, they expanded the perimeter around the WH and increased the DOJ and military presence.

Why is the WH turning into a DC version of the Green Zone?

See also: NYT: White House increasingly resembles a Washington version of the Green Zone
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**Heads up: There's busloads of troops entering the WH complex right now** (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 OP
Kick Hekate Jun 2020 #1
This is going to be a fun weekend... BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #2
Ruh roh... 2naSalit Jun 2020 #3
Oh Lordy! leftieNanner Jun 2020 #4
Trump must be scared or he's going to do something horrid. Or both. sakabatou Jun 2020 #5
Only one of those sarisataka Jun 2020 #6
everything on twitter is true all the time nt msongs Jun 2020 #14
Hence the reason you give yourself credibility. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #35
This is all for the fake presidents reality TV shows benefit ... all show, all the time. 42bambi Jun 2020 #27
That would be my guess. nt BrightKnight Jun 2020 #68
Actors going to a picnic... LanternWaste Jun 2020 #33
OMG dewsgirl Jun 2020 #7
It's to protect him from the riot in his mind. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #8
Do these unmarked soldiers remind anyone of the green men invading Ukraine? dem4decades Jun 2020 #9
Sounds like "fearless leader" has been talking to puppet master putin again. nt pazzyanne Jun 2020 #92
FORTRESS WHITE HOUSE! Newest Reality Jun 2020 #10
K&R (nt) Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #11
It's time for him to surrender Tech Jun 2020 #12
Bunkie Boo Boo is ascairt. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #13
This. milestogo Jun 2020 #16
My concern is they'll attempt to create a situation that validates this strong military presence. patphil Jun 2020 #15
Someone called for a million protesters to show up at the WH EndlessWire Jun 2020 #54
"My concern is they'll attempt to create a situation that validates this strong military presence." FuzzyRabbit Jun 2020 #76
Maybe part of the plan to stay even if he loses Captain Zero Jun 2020 #106
I'm surprised he's not Marine One'd his ass and flew to Camp David. sunonmars Jun 2020 #17
I fear for the protesters in Washington Jarqui Jun 2020 #18
"to keep the peace" Really? Military brought in to keep the peace? cayugafalls Jun 2020 #19
We had a saying in the 60's sab390 Jun 2020 #100
What now?! OhZone Jun 2020 #20
It sounds like Bunker Boi needs to do another inspection. Hassler Jun 2020 #21
Tweety is afraid of the big march planned for tomorrow Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #22
Are these soldiers active duty military or the procon Jun 2020 #23
Are the coming or going? Mme. Defarge Jun 2020 #24
Trump showing us his scared coward face. TeamPooka Jun 2020 #25
Festung Weise Haus... nt Another Jackalope Jun 2020 #26
Erbebende Festung! dhol82 Jun 2020 #31
Klaatu barada nikto....from "The Day the Earth Stood Still" Stuart G Jun 2020 #28
Damn, this is the only one I understand! n/t EndlessWire Jun 2020 #79
Paranoid schizophrenia. Karadeniz Jun 2020 #29
According to the second video, 200-250 Military Police are now deployed in DC to "keep the niyad Jun 2020 #30
I don't think it does since DC is not a state Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #91
Getting familiar with the "battlespace", for when they are ordered too... LudwigPastorius Jun 2020 #95
"What we've got here is failure to communicate." -Cool Hand Luke, 1967 Stuart G Jun 2020 #32
Remember Kent State!! lastlib Jun 2020 #34
NO, do not give rumpie saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #43
Like it was yesterday. pazzyanne Jun 2020 #93
Military Coup Soxfan58 Jun 2020 #36
Maybe a coup The Mouth Jun 2020 #37
No they won't. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2020 #46
"Their presence is meant to create the impression rocktivity Jun 2020 #38
Trumpen SS... orwell Jun 2020 #39
It's a set-up. Boogaloo boys will start violence; military will target protesters Auggie Jun 2020 #40
He wants to pretend that he's under attack malaise Jun 2020 #41
Bingo. This is all for the optics - WH under siege from antifa, commies, Dems, hell, let's chia Jun 2020 #62
Are they carrying out an orange, heavy guy? spanone Jun 2020 #42
Kick. bronxiteforever Jun 2020 #44
Totally inadequate. What Trump needs is tanks and machine guns positioned around the perimeter dalton99a Jun 2020 #45
And what about the ........"REALLY BIG BOMBS?" Stuart G Jun 2020 #49
Yeah, tactical nukes in Lafayette Park -- THAT'LL show 'em! nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 2020 #55
Ok, the president needs BIG protection all around dalton99a Jun 2020 #56
Great Picture...thanks for posting...Yea, that is what Trump needs..K and R your picture.. Stuart G Jun 2020 #58
and a moat... sprinkleeninow Jun 2020 #89
A moat filled with rabid alligators!! I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #114
Would you be at all surprised if tanks showed up tomorrow? Flaleftist Jun 2020 #97
Kiki am only surprised that they are not there yet. Despite the Pentagon telling der feuerteufel niyad Jun 2020 #99
You know what Americans don't want to see? BlueIdaho Jun 2020 #47
The protestors need to all get lawn chairs and set up a perimeter a half block away from them, .... A HERETIC I AM Jun 2020 #48
There haven't been that many troops running around DC Scalded Nun Jun 2020 #50
Could we please get a link to a reputable news source instead of tweets? scarletwoman Jun 2020 #51
These are reputable sources tweeting information. They're plenty valid: chia Jun 2020 #59
Well, that may be, but one is from June 1, and one from June 3. Plus, the real troop story is here: scarletwoman Jun 2020 #64
I'll grant you that on the dates - good eye - but in general Twitter is invaluable for fast info, chia Jun 2020 #69
From the linked article Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #70
That was Thursday. "Friday's order to the New York-based troops removes scarletwoman Jun 2020 #74
The top tweet is from this afternoon Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #60
"Some tell us they are rotating in for weekend duty." That makes sense, doesn't it? scarletwoman Jun 2020 #72
I'd rather pay attention during a potential coup Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #77
I absolutely agree with paying attention. All I'm saying is that I think paying attention scarletwoman Jun 2020 #78
I'm sorry. I don't know what to say Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #80
That's what I did with your OP. I'm not on Twitter, so I look for news sources elsewhere. scarletwoman Jun 2020 #87
Many Tweets include links to articles... Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #94
I can't access twitter on my phone without an account LeftInTX Jun 2020 #105
Ah, on a phone I can see that it's different experience. Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #108
Thank you for your kind words Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #104
Here are two fairly recent/current stories. And yes, there are conflicting stories/articles Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #81
Um, they've all gotta be fed, bedded, bathroomed, WTF??? lindysalsagal Jun 2020 #52
Dear friends in the media, saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author BrightKnight Jun 2020 #57
I saw only 2 links on Google about this left-of-center2012 Jun 2020 #61
shift change, they are working 12 hour shifts bottomofthehill Jun 2020 #63
Doesn't appear to be that routine though given the WH correspondents commenting on it Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #65
Was there Tue And Wed bottomofthehill Jun 2020 #71
Why do all of these twitter posts have different dates ranging from 6/1 to 6/5. I don't japple Jun 2020 #66
They were included for context Dennis Donovan Jun 2020 #75
The mayor needs to bring the police to them and question them. nt coti Jun 2020 #67
Manly man with doll hands is scared shitless! George II Jun 2020 #73
Putin is laughing. saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #82
Tangeranus is skeered. cwydro Jun 2020 #83
Trump and co. are scared. C Moon Jun 2020 #84
Twumpy is ascared! Dream Girl Jun 2020 #85
Is Bunker Boy even in the White House this weekend? SergeStorms Jun 2020 #86
Hahaha Squidly Jun 2020 #107
I think someone wants a fight, and may manufacture one if needed. Reichstag fire anyone. c-rational Jun 2020 #88
WTF? Joinfortmill Jun 2020 #90
There coming to take me away, he he . . . enid602 Jun 2020 #96
BLOTUS is SCARED OUT of his.. I'd say "mind" but he had NONE. Cha Jun 2020 #98
Instead of building a giant fence around the WH Grokenstein Jun 2020 #101
Mr. Tump, tear down this wall. nt BrightKnight Jun 2020 #102
Bunker Baby go boom boom Blue Owl Jun 2020 #103
The Trump Organization sticks to the family playbook - The Godfather. bluedigger Jun 2020 #109
K & R IllinoisBirdWatcher Jun 2020 #110
Dump is afraid of the American people. Cowering in his bunker. I hope he has a cyanide pill. Nitram Jun 2020 #111
This is too funny lillypaddle Jun 2020 #112
Are they there to arrest the president? samsingh Jun 2020 #113

sarisataka

(18,663 posts)
6. Only one of those
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jun 2020

Have today's date. And that one says they were dropped near by, nothing indicating they are going into the WH

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
9. Do these unmarked soldiers remind anyone of the green men invading Ukraine?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jun 2020

No markings, no evidence, no responsibility for actions.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. FORTRESS WHITE HOUSE!
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:56 PM
Jun 2020

Too bad they are not there to take back the White House from the Fascist dictator and his regime of dullard sycophants. It is clear that this rogue tyrant has turned on the American people.

patphil

(6,182 posts)
15. My concern is they'll attempt to create a situation that validates this strong military presence.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jun 2020

Trump is sinking, and he knows it.
He needs something to buoy up his sinking ship and save his re-election.
Some large scale rioting and looting with protestors standing off against the military will, in his mind, make him look like a strong, law and order president.
The worst thing that can happen is nothing.
If there is no trouble, the whole thing looks ridiculous.

I expect a lot of agent provocateurs to infiltrate the protestors and bring in the needed violence.

EndlessWire

(6,537 posts)
54. Someone called for a million protesters to show up at the WH
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jun 2020

on Saturday. Trump probably won't even be there. But, he'll see it.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
76. "My concern is they'll attempt to create a situation that validates this strong military presence."
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jun 2020

Perhaps a "Reichstag fire" to justify the troop buildup?

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
18. I fear for the protesters in Washington
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jun 2020

Trump will pick a fight and kill some of them - labeling them as Antifa or something racially stupid.

They're bummed out with the Bunker scared President label.

So having armed military kick the snot out of unarmed protesters is going to show Amurika how grate a man Trump is and how he's taking action to make Amurika Grate Agin,. .. (so their shallow minds go )

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
19. "to keep the peace" Really? Military brought in to keep the peace?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jun 2020

When has that ever been the case? People with guns escalate violence.

This could be a bad weekend.

sab390

(183 posts)
100. We had a saying in the 60's
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jun 2020

Fighting for peace is like fucking for chastity. There were some great ones. A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. My favorite was knock the little jockeys off the rich people's lawns.

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. Are these soldiers active duty military or the
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jun 2020

National Guard? Is this even legal? Not that it matters because the Republicans aren't going to make a peep.

niyad

(113,344 posts)
30. According to the second video, 200-250 Military Police are now deployed in DC to "keep the
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jun 2020

peace". What the ever- loving fuck?????????

Since when does the USmilitary do this ????

Somebody mentioned that posse commitatus does not apply in DC.


Malevolent MURDERER'S reign of terror has begun?????? Because we KNOW that this will not end well.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
95. Getting familiar with the "battlespace", for when they are ordered too...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jun 2020

prop up Trump? In his parlance, maybe it's an "audition", if you will.


Trump has already laid the groundwork for contesting the election results in November. (Tweeting that the election itself will be "illegitimate".) And, one of his closest associates for the past 13 years said he will never go peacefully.





saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
43. NO, do not give rumpie
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jun 2020

an excuse to use violence. Defeat the GOP at the polls in November, it is a price they must pay.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
38. "Their presence is meant to create the impression
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jun 2020

that the White House is under siege from domestic terrorists."

So are they there to PROTECT the White House -- or escort Team Trump out?


rocktivity

chia

(2,244 posts)
62. Bingo. This is all for the optics - WH under siege from antifa, commies, Dems, hell, let's
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jun 2020

add Hillary too while we're at it.

And the base will suck it up and scream for the militia

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
45. Totally inadequate. What Trump needs is tanks and machine guns positioned around the perimeter
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:40 PM
Jun 2020

AND land mines

AND beautiful guard towers

niyad

(113,344 posts)
99. Kiki am only surprised that they are not there yet. Despite the Pentagon telling der feuerteufel
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:39 PM
Jun 2020

that the DC streets camN't take the weight.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
47. You know what Americans don't want to see?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jun 2020

A tin pot dick tater and his militia shitting on the White House lawn.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
48. The protestors need to all get lawn chairs and set up a perimeter a half block away from them, ....
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:42 PM
Jun 2020

and just sit down and watch.

Silently.

Just sit down as if they are at an outdoor concert, not say a word, not a chant, nothing.


scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
51. Could we please get a link to a reputable news source instead of tweets?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jun 2020

Twitter is not a news source. One tweet is dated June 1, one is dated June 3.

There was another thread on DU today about how Sec. of Defense Esper was sending most active duty military home today, leaving behind just a couple hundred troops.

chia

(2,244 posts)
59. These are reputable sources tweeting information. They're plenty valid:
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jun 2020

One is from Edward Luce, Associate Editor, Financial Times

One is Keith Boykin, from CNN

One is Patsy Widakuswara, Sr. White House Correspondent VOA news


chia

(2,244 posts)
69. I'll grant you that on the dates - good eye - but in general Twitter is invaluable for fast info,
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jun 2020

although I definitely check who's tweeting and whether they seem credible witnesses or are known, credible sources. A lot of journalists use Twitter, so please don't rule it out as a source, but even good journalists can get things wrong so getting corroboration information is always a good thing too.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
70. From the linked article
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jun 2020
On Thursday, Esper ordered about 700 of the 1,600 active duty troops who were brought to the Washington region on Monday back to Fort Bragg in North Carolina.


700 out of 1600 isn't "most".

And Twitter is a platform which News Agencies disseminate their stories. It's as valid a news aggregate as the television is.

Cronkite passed 11 years ago, unfortunately.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
74. That was Thursday. "Friday's order to the New York-based troops removes
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:15 PM
Jun 2020

...almost all the active duty presence brought in to bolster law enforcement."

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
60. The top tweet is from this afternoon
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jun 2020

This is the source - she works for Voice of America:


More from Jim Acosta of CNN:




I included the earlier tweets for context.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
72. "Some tell us they are rotating in for weekend duty." That makes sense, doesn't it?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:11 PM
Jun 2020

It doesn't sound like an escalation to get all worked up over.

Don't get me wrong, I think all of it is disgusting and scary and bad, I just dislike what seems like unnecessary additional scare-mongering.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
78. I absolutely agree with paying attention. All I'm saying is that I think paying attention
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:22 PM
Jun 2020

needs to rely on accurate and dispassionately factual information.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
80. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jun 2020

When I read something on DU or Twitter, I verify it. I google it. I thought everyone did?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
87. That's what I did with your OP. I'm not on Twitter, so I look for news sources elsewhere.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:37 PM
Jun 2020

I'm truly sorry if I seem to be picking on you - please allow me to apologize. I think you're a valuable DUer who posts lots of great stuff, and I'm very glad to have you here.

It's just that when I started reading this thread and seeing so many posts with speculations unmoored from any facts, I felt compelled to say something.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
94. Many Tweets include links to articles...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jun 2020

And unlike Facebook, you don't need an account to read the feed or search for topics.

LeftInTX

(25,380 posts)
105. I can't access twitter on my phone without an account
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:51 AM
Jun 2020

I got a new phone and I'm too lazy to hunt down my twitter password..so when I try to access one of the DU threads, I can't

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
108. Ah, on a phone I can see that it's different experience.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jun 2020

The world of passwords gets more and more annoying.

I'm old enough to remember how one simple password without numbers or special characters was all you needed for email and a couple other accounts.

Now it's become nearly impossible to keep track of it all and god forbid you enter the wrong password three times, then you have to create a new one and keep track of that.

Yikes!

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
104. Thank you for your kind words
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:16 AM
Jun 2020


All of this is frightening. There's no reason for the WH to still have the expanded perimeter or expanded presence of as many armed personnel since the protests have been largely peaceful (w/ the exception of when the cops pop off and beat the peaceful protesters).

As Peter Baker of the NYT described the situation, they're "Green Zoning" the area around the WH. Why are they fortifying it? Why does it appear they're girding for a battle?

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
52. Um, they've all gotta be fed, bedded, bathroomed, WTF???
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jun 2020

Did they set up temporary tents for servicing all these troops?

And why aren't the dems screaming and yelling?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
53. Dear friends in the media,
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jun 2020

you can do better. You know what I mean, stand up and stop giving the ugly, fat fuck air time. (forgive my lapse of judgment on use of obscenities).

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
65. Doesn't appear to be that routine though given the WH correspondents commenting on it
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:05 PM
Jun 2020

...as if it's an unusual event.

bottomofthehill

(8,334 posts)
71. Was there Tue And Wed
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jun 2020

while the build up was going on now there are so many more, but i am guessing the shift changes have remained

japple

(9,833 posts)
66. Why do all of these twitter posts have different dates ranging from 6/1 to 6/5. I don't
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jun 2020

pretend to understand how twitter works. Are these re-posts or replies?

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
86. Is Bunker Boy even in the White House this weekend?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jun 2020

I'm sure he must be off on a golf weekend somewhere.

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enid602

(8,620 posts)
96. There coming to take me away, he he . . .
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jun 2020

Hopefully a good number of the men going to the White House are wearing little white coats.

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