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George II

(67,782 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:36 PM Jun 2020

Just in: That Minneapolis cop illegally voted in Florida elections in 2016 and 2018, a third degree

Just in: That Minneapolis cop illegally voted in Florida elections in 2016 and 2018, a third degree felony.




This hasn't shown up on the news yet, but I'm sure it will soon.

I guess this cop is a "career criminal"!
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Just in: That Minneapolis cop illegally voted in Florida elections in 2016 and 2018, a third degree (Original Post) George II Jun 2020 OP
Why didn't he use 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue leftieNanner Jun 2020 #1
Along that line of thinking... MontanaMama Jun 2020 #43
Has anyone checked to see if he voted in Minnesota as well? nt DURHAM D Jun 2020 #2
My question, too. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2020 #15
My first question LeftInTX Jun 2020 #21
And if he did, I'd love to know if any fellow officers did as well. BadgerMom Jun 2020 #38
Repukes like voter fraud and electoral fraud. roamer65 Jun 2020 #3
I guess they knew about rampant voter fraud because they were committing it. lostnfound Jun 2020 #36
Such a stellar, guy. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #4
I remain convinced this guy is part of an underground network, and that he's not the only one JudyM Jun 2020 #5
Probably showing off for the newbies he was training. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #9
I think Mr. Floyd was targeted. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2020 #16
I think so, too. That was a minor crime if he really did it. His only real criminal record.... George II Jun 2020 #18
I've been thinking... Cracklin Charlie Jun 2020 #19
My thoughts exactly when I read they had cross paths at the club... IthinkThereforeIAM Jun 2020 #41
I've been thinking the same thing since day one. Scruffy1 Jun 2020 #79
I personally believe he is involved in counterfeiting at least $20 bills. LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #27
How so? JudyM Jun 2020 #57
That is what started it.. A radio call about a $20 bill. Most people will just give the store clerk LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #58
Right, I saw that, but are you suggesting death-cop was counterfeiting? JudyM Jun 2020 #60
I think Chauvin was or was protecting the people who are. The dead guy got a bill accidentally LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #61
Interesting theory. JudyM Jun 2020 #62
Yea, may end up bringing a lot of change. LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #63
Seems the ATF Good Ol' Boys Roundup, mentality of the 90's has festered oasis Jun 2020 #52
" ... as a registered Republican." lpbk2713 Jun 2020 #6
But evidence is nice malaise Jun 2020 #8
Virtually every Republican talking point about voter fraud turns out to be projection flibbitygiblets Jun 2020 #24
+1,000 malaise Jun 2020 #25
Ms mcenenny Also broke the Florida voting law. How many refuge do this? OhNo-Really Jun 2020 #70
Did he also vote in Minnesota? Ilsa Jun 2020 #7
To be honest he can only be cited in one state, not both. But let's hope they get him on that... George II Jun 2020 #10
then Minnesota should. nt Baltimike Jun 2020 #65
May be the old "pick your state" effort I remember from years ago Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2020 #66
Question, Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #11
Probably cash money from the club LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #28
No income Tax in Sodak or Florida. Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #30
But their employer is supposed to take out SS and Medicare and Federal. Pay cash and everyone keeps LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #31
That's not how 1099 income works. whopis01 Jun 2020 #73
You are so correct about the 1099 as it tells the IRS that you had income. LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #74
Ok - sure. Maybe I misunderstood the subthread here whopis01 Jun 2020 #75
Incidentally, as recently as 2017 Tiffany Trump was registered to vote in Philadelphia and NYC.... George II Jun 2020 #12
Donald doesn't know her soothsayer Jun 2020 #17
registration following a move stopdiggin Jun 2020 #76
Relatively almost no voter fraud, and almost all discovered Republican. Hortensis Jun 2020 #13
Let me guess which party benefited from his voter fraud? lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #14
More information about his home near Windermere, Florida csziggy Jun 2020 #20
Guessing he voted twice, by mail. grantcart Jun 2020 #23
Who knows??? LeftInTX Jun 2020 #32
THIS! A HERETIC I AM Jun 2020 #34
I believe the Golfer Tiger Woods used to live in or near Windemere. Blue_true Jun 2020 #48
Unless there was another such incident (and we do know that there were at least 12 citizen complaint niyad Jun 2020 #51
Omg his credit cards, phone, birthdate, SSN all online lostnfound Jun 2020 #55
He just followed the example of MF45... Sancho Jun 2020 #22
They should check to see if that Kroll did it too. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #26
Did he vote in Minnesota too? lame54 Jun 2020 #29
the hits keep coming iluvtennis Jun 2020 #33
Can a convicted felon become a cop? BlueIdaho Jun 2020 #35
and own a firearm? onethatcares Jun 2020 #68
There's some voter fraud.. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #37
Trump also is committing voter fraud. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #39
Perhaps he and Lard Butt can share a cell. 11 Bravo Jun 2020 #40
IOKIYAR lpbk2713 Jun 2020 #42
A May 29 AP story mentioned it. progree Jun 2020 #44
Wow! R B Garr Jun 2020 #45
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #46
gasp! donald trump is right! people are committing voter fraud orleans Jun 2020 #47
My guess. There likely are more police officers doing this, Blue_true Jun 2020 #49
I wonder how many people that vote red in florida every election actually DON'T live or work there. BComplex Jun 2020 #50
used to be onethatcares Jun 2020 #69
Oops! nt Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #53
He needs to be charged with voter fraud mcar Jun 2020 #54
If true, then yes he should be rockfordfile Jun 2020 #56
But that's republicans: everything they accuse someone else of is what they themselves are guilty of BComplex Jun 2020 #72
Every case of voter fraud I've heard about in the last month is by a REPUBLICAN Blue Owl Jun 2020 #59
Yep. Ollie Garkie Jun 2020 #64
makes you wonder d_b Jun 2020 #67
Is he sure it's the same Derek Chauven? cannabis_flower Jun 2020 #71
true. hope someone was looking for more stopdiggin Jun 2020 #77
He has to be part of a network doing this. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2020 #78

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
1. Why didn't he use 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jun 2020

as his permanent address? Like Ass Face did when he registered to vote in Florida.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
43. Along that line of thinking...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe he should have listed MF45's ample orange ass as his permanent address...he's got his head stuck up there anyway.

lostnfound

(16,183 posts)
36. I guess they knew about rampant voter fraud because they were committing it.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:13 PM
Jun 2020

They think everyone is as guilty as they are?
Can’t follow a set of principles?

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
5. I remain convinced this guy is part of an underground network, and that he's not the only one
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jun 2020

voting in FL... betting folks in the network have been tipped off that they could do this, since fla wins are crucial to rethugs.

I believe he’s part of a supremacist-type online network because his hands-in-pockets, knee on throat longer than it needed to be, almost posing for the camera attitude seemed like a performace... the question is only: for whom? He was undoubtedly getting some social rewards for his casual depravity in bringing down a big (handcuffed) black dude.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. I think so, too. That was a minor crime if he really did it. His only real criminal record....
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jun 2020

...goes back to 2005, fifteen years ago.

Remember, he and the cop both worked as bouncers at the same nightclub. Bad blood perhaps?

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
41. My thoughts exactly when I read they had cross paths at the club...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jun 2020

... Floyd had seen something or knew something. Or the gal that Chauvin was jonesing for went home with Floyd.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
79. I've been thinking the same thing since day one.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jun 2020

IMHO the MPD runs a huge extortion racket under the guise of working part time security. There are plenty of good qualified private security people who work for a lot less than the $50 to $75 they charge per hour. Many of them make more on their part time jobs than rookies do on their salary. It makes no sense to me unless extortion is involved. To get these jobs you have to one of the "boys" and they are doled out by people like Chauvin. I'm thinking he owns or rents a property in Florida. Reminds me of a resort area I lived in in Wisconsin. Chicago cops built lots of lake homes in the area. Nice ones, not cabins. It was generally understood they were on the take and needed someplace to put their money in that was out of sight.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
58. That is what started it.. A radio call about a $20 bill. Most people will just give the store clerk
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jun 2020

another $20. He did not. He waited. A police car came buy and picked him up, handcuffed him and put him in the back seat. Chauvin came by and pulled him out of the first car and dragged him over to his car to precede to kill him.

Chauvin did not get the call. You can watch the entire video of where he was standing up against the wall, handcuffed and then placed into the car.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
60. Right, I saw that, but are you suggesting death-cop was counterfeiting?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jun 2020

Thought that was who you meant by “he.”

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
61. I think Chauvin was or was protecting the people who are. The dead guy got a bill accidentally
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jun 2020

passed to him and knew who gave it to him.

BTW the dead guy wanted to be a supreme court judge as a kid

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
62. Interesting theory.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jun 2020

George Floyd may end up impacting the country as much as he would’ve as a supreme ct justice

oasis

(49,389 posts)
52. Seems the ATF Good Ol' Boys Roundup, mentality of the 90's has festered
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jun 2020

and grown into a secret society of ultra right racist cops.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
24. Virtually every Republican talking point about voter fraud turns out to be projection
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

Including BLOTUS, who votes from Florida, despite that Magat-Lago is not allowed to be used as a residence.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. To be honest he can only be cited in one state, not both. But let's hope they get him on that...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jun 2020

...although Florida officials probably won't press it.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
66. May be the old "pick your state" effort I remember from years ago
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jun 2020

example: You live in Massachusetts and vote in a swing state that needs your vote.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Question,
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jun 2020

do we know if Chauvin was being paid via 1099? That would cause all kinds of issues for this POS.

Had a childhood friend who worked for the majority Power Company in MPLS and used a 1099 scam and claimed Residency in South Dakota as well a Voter Registration . When he sold his house in St Peter,well the Tax Man came to collect. And it was not a cheap bill to pay,plus he is still serving probation till next January.

Remember,when one sells their Primary Residence,those IRS as well as State Tax forms do mean something.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
30. No income Tax in Sodak or Florida.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jun 2020

1099's can burn one big time,if you do not keep it clean. Especially if your income is under a certain ceiling.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
31. But their employer is supposed to take out SS and Medicare and Federal. Pay cash and everyone keeps
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jun 2020

more money.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
73. That's not how 1099 income works.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

If you are paid via 1099, then you are an independent contractor, not an employee. The entity you work for has no obligation (or right) to withhold taxes in that case.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
74. You are so correct about the 1099 as it tells the IRS that you had income.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

But down here people bring in a lot of money, cash money, without a 1099. Mowing yards, cleaning up yards, home repair, car repairs., All sorts of work. They only take cash or a check. Never reported to anyone.

That is what I was thinking of.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
75. Ok - sure. Maybe I misunderstood the subthread here
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jun 2020

Wellstone_ruled was talking about whether or not he was paid via 1099, and you said "But their employer is supposed to take out SS and Medicare and Federal". I was just pointing out that was not the case with 1099 income.

Like I said, maybe I misunderstood what was being discussed.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Incidentally, as recently as 2017 Tiffany Trump was registered to vote in Philadelphia and NYC....
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jun 2020

...and I believe she was living in California.

https://www.today.com/news/kellyanne-conway-donald-trump-s-daughter-tiffany-isn-t-registered-t107422

Tiffany Trump on voter rolls in 2 states, despite claims otherwise by Kellyanne Conway

Just one day after President Donald Trump said he would ask for a "major investigation" into his unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway pushed back on proof that shows the president's youngest daughter on voter registration rolls in two states.

Tiffany Trump is currently registered in both New York City and Philadelphia, according to state election records in New York and Pennsylvania. Trump was a student at the University of Pennsylvania until her graduation last May.

Conway disputed the findings during an interview Thursday on TODAY.

"I talked last night to Tiffany Trump, and she said it is flatly false that she is registered in two states," she said.

[this article has screen shots of her registration in both states!]

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
76. registration following a move
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jun 2020

should void previous registrations .. but often does not. Technically (depending on the state) you might be legally required to "un-register" at your former .. but, again, almost nobody ever does. A should have some way of knowing what B is doing .. but, as in all things bureaucratic, that would require .. you know .. like time and effort. And that is why "voter rolls" are almost notoriously inaccurate.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
20. More information about his home near Windermere, Florida
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jun 2020
Small Florida Town Finds Itself in Middle of George Floyd Story After Cop Revealed to Have Second Home Nearby
By Sarah RumpfMay 29th, 2020, 12:54 pm

The small Central Florida town of Windermere found itself thrown into national headlines this week when it was reported that Derek Chauvin, the Minneapolis police officer who was seen on video with his knee on the neck of George Floyd before he died, has a second home with a Windermere address. But Chauvin doesn’t actually live in the town.

Windermere is a very small town in western Orange County, nestled on an isthmus spanning the Butler Chain of Lakes, comprised of 3,800 people living within 2.2 square miles. It’s so small you might blink and miss it as you drove through, if not for the infamously restrictive speed limits (Windermere Police are well-known by locals for issuing tickets for driving even one or two miles over the posted limits) that slow you down enough to appreciate the quaint shops and Spanish moss-draped oak trees along Main Street. The main residential areas still feature dirt roads and short wooden posts for street signs.

<SNIP>

There are valid debates occurring in many cities about issues that may arise when law enforcement officers are not a part of the communities they are policing. In Chauvin’s case, he may not live within the town of Windermere, but he has viewed himself as enough of a Florida resident to vote in recent elections.

I confirmed Friday with Nicholas Shannin, the attorney for the Orange County Supervisor of Elections office, that a Derek Michael Chauvin with the Windermere address posted online voted in the 2016 and 2018 general elections in Florida. Voting records provided by Shannin indicate that Chauvin voted early in both elections, meaning that he was physically present in Orange County to cast his vote at an early voting location (usually at centrally located public facilities like libraries).

More: https://www.mediaite.com/news/small-florida-town-finds-itself-thrown-into-george-floyd-story-after-cop-revealed-to-have-second-home-nearby/


My sister used to live in the town of Windermere. For years now, she has lived outside of the town in Orange County, but still has a Windermere address. While some homes in the area are multi-million dollar mansions, many are more modest homes, and some are low cost townhouses.

Chavin's residence is questionable - according to his personnel records, he has worked for the Minneapolis Police Department since 2001:
Minneapolis police release Derek Chauvin’s personnel records, offering a few more details

By Staff and wire reports |
PUBLISHED: June 3, 2020 at 5:46 a.m. | UPDATED: June 3, 2020 at 6:21 a.m.

The Minneapolis Police Department on Tuesday released personnel records for Derek Chauvin, the now-fired officer accused of killing George Floyd, a black man whose death has sparked protest nationwide.

The records provide some insight into Chauvin’s background, starting as a military police officer with the U.S. Army from September 1996 to February 1997 and again from September 1999 to May 2000.
Derek Chauvin

However, the records included little detail about the 17 times Chauvin was the subject of internal affairs investigations by the Minneapolis department.

Chauvin, who had worked with the Police Department since October 2001, had been disciplined for only one incident during his tenure. It occurred in August 2007 in Longfellow, a neighborhood just south of downtown Minneapolis. Chauvin was accused of pulling a woman out of her car after stopping her for going 10 mph over the speed limit. The woman filed the complaint the next day.

More: https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/03/minneapolis-police-release-chauvins-personnel-records-offering-few-more-details/


Unless he was only working for MPD for a few months a year, how did he establish residency to vote in Florida in 2016 and 2018?

LeftInTX

(25,374 posts)
32. Who knows???
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jun 2020

Sounds like you really don't need to establish residency. Trump is registered there and I doubt he has a FL driver's license. He does own a home.

Was Chauvin from FL originally?

From FL SOS:
Submit your valid Florida driver's license number or Florida identification card number. If you do not have either of these, you must provide the last four digits of your Social Security number. If you have not been issued a Florida driver's license number, Florida identification card number or social security number, you must write "none".

All he needs is:
Line 5 SSN
Line 7 xxxxxx st, somewhere in Florida
Linda 8 somewhere in Minnesota.

This is legal in Texas too.
This most important thing is that he did not vote in Minnesota.

Will need to look up FL statute. Sometimes people are registered in two states, which isn't criminal until they vote in both states. My son was registered in both NY and TX. He went to school in NY and voted up there. Now he's back here and voting in TX. He didn't vote in both states at the same time, but he didn't cancel his TX registration while he was in NY. Usually the penalty for this, is cancellation of a registration and you need to re-register.

Having a mailing address different than residence address is very common. My dad was in the military and was registered from Wisconsin, although he left WI 1949 and used his parents address and voted out of state until 1969. Lots of people do this.

https://www.myfloridaelections.com/portals/fsase/Documents/Voter%20Reg%20Apps/FL_Voter_Reg_App_DS-DE-39_111816.pdf

ETA: Here is the Statute: (2)?A person who willfully submits any false voter registration information commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided

An attorney can say someone is breaking the law, when they really aren't breaking the law.

Aaahhh. The attorney is running for Board of Elections in Pinellas County...
https://votedanhelm.com/

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
34. THIS!
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jun 2020

There was some reporting (subsequently proven incorrect) that he fled to his place in Windermere the day after the vid went viral. I'll bet it crossed his mind though.

He is clearly a serial asshole of the Nth degree.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
48. I believe the Golfer Tiger Woods used to live in or near Windemere.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jun 2020

That was before his former wife demonstrated her utility with a 9-Iron to him.

niyad

(113,340 posts)
51. Unless there was another such incident (and we do know that there were at least 12 citizen complaint
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jun 2020

about this murdering thug) the woman being pulled out of her car was discussed here yesterday. Thug and his fellow officer pulled the woman from her car, shoved her in their patrol car, never said a word to her. Her infant and dog were left unattended in her car. In August.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
39. Trump also is committing voter fraud.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jun 2020

He has registered to vote in Florida, but his residence is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC. The terms to allow Mar-a-Lago to become a club prevent it from being used as a permanent residence. In reality, Trump is only supposed to live there no more than two weeks a year, which he has violated with his numerous trips, but how is it legal for him to vote in Florida when he has no address there.

progree

(10,909 posts)
44. A May 29 AP story mentioned it.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/05/29/charged-exmpls-cop-used-overkill-tactics-as-nightclub-guard

but mentioned it only at the bottom of the article. And didn't make any mention of the probable illegality of that:

On Friday, protesters gathered in front of another Chauvin home in Windermere, Fla., which he has owned since 2011 with his wife, Kellie, a Laotian refugee, realtor and former Mrs. Minnesota pageant winner.

Both Chauvin and his wife have registered to vote there, rather than in Minnesota, records show. Chauvin last cast a ballot in Florida in November 2018. His wife’s registration is listed as inactive. Both are Republicans.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. My guess. There likely are more police officers doing this,
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jun 2020

especially the ones who consider themselves republicans, which would be most of them.

I honestly don't think that the issue is just voting, my guess is there is some type of tax fraud going on also.

All states need to cross-reference their state, county and local police officers with the voter roles in no income tax states like Florida. My belief is that a lot will be unearthed.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
50. I wonder how many people that vote red in florida every election actually DON'T live or work there.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Now I would like to see if he ALSO voted in Minneapolis!

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
69. used to be
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jun 2020

once you got a job or put your kids in school you had to surrender your car tags and get Floriduh plates. The police used to drive through corporate parking lots and check on cars that were there longer than two days.

At that time you also had to affirm a "Declaration of Domicile" saying you gave up your residency rights in a different state.

Currently it costs about $400.00 to change plates from E Bumfark SoDak to Floriduh. I don't see a rush on plate changes though.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
54. He needs to be charged with voter fraud
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jun 2020

Funny how the Republicans scream about it being so bad while they are doing it.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
72. But that's republicans: everything they accuse someone else of is what they themselves are guilty of
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jun 2020

The Grand Ole PROJECTION party.

Ollie Garkie

(186 posts)
64. Yep.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jun 2020

Even the one person I know personally who I suspect is commiting voter fraud is a wealthy Republican. Interesting pattern indeed.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
71. Is he sure it's the same Derek Chauven?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jun 2020

I know it's not a real common name but my daughter has an uncommon name but found out that there were 6 others with the same name on Facebook.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
77. true. hope someone was looking for more
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jun 2020

identifiers than just a name. This appears to be from a private (not official) source? I'd like to think that this was properly vetted, but .. you know .. internet .. people play games.

Edit: Chauvin does own property in FL, and apparently voted there in the last two generals 2016-18. Now the question would be .. is his FL residency (for voting purposes) legal?

Orlando Sentinel, June 5 -- A search of Chauvin’s voter status in Florida shows he registered to vote Republican in Orange County at his Windermere-area address in January 2016. His registration is active. Election records show he voted in the 2016 and 2018 general elections.
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