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Just in: That Minneapolis cop illegally voted in Florida elections in 2016 and 2018, a third degree felony.Link to tweet
This hasn't shown up on the news yet, but I'm sure it will soon.
I guess this cop is a "career criminal"!
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)as his permanent address? Like Ass Face did when he registered to vote in Florida.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)Maybe he should have listed MF45's ample orange ass as his permanent address...he's got his head stuck up there anyway.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Did he vote republican twice?
LeftInTX
(25,374 posts)It's fraud if he voted in both.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Thats how they steal office.
lostnfound
(16,183 posts)They think everyone is as guilty as they are?
Cant follow a set of principles?
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Lock him up forever.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)voting in FL... betting folks in the network have been tipped off that they could do this, since fla wins are crucial to rethugs.
I believe hes part of a supremacist-type online network because his hands-in-pockets, knee on throat longer than it needed to be, almost posing for the camera attitude seemed like a performace... the question is only: for whom? He was undoubtedly getting some social rewards for his casual depravity in bringing down a big (handcuffed) black dude.
tblue37
(65,403 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)The whole thing reeks.
George II
(67,782 posts)...goes back to 2005, fifteen years ago.
Remember, he and the cop both worked as bouncers at the same nightclub. Bad blood perhaps?
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Mr. Floyd knew too much, or saw something he wasnt supposed to see.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... Floyd had seen something or knew something. Or the gal that Chauvin was jonesing for went home with Floyd.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)IMHO the MPD runs a huge extortion racket under the guise of working part time security. There are plenty of good qualified private security people who work for a lot less than the $50 to $75 they charge per hour. Many of them make more on their part time jobs than rookies do on their salary. It makes no sense to me unless extortion is involved. To get these jobs you have to one of the "boys" and they are doled out by people like Chauvin. I'm thinking he owns or rents a property in Florida. Reminds me of a resort area I lived in in Wisconsin. Chicago cops built lots of lake homes in the area. Nice ones, not cabins. It was generally understood they were on the take and needed someplace to put their money in that was out of sight.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)another $20. He did not. He waited. A police car came buy and picked him up, handcuffed him and put him in the back seat. Chauvin came by and pulled him out of the first car and dragged him over to his car to precede to kill him.
Chauvin did not get the call. You can watch the entire video of where he was standing up against the wall, handcuffed and then placed into the car.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)Thought that was who you meant by he.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)passed to him and knew who gave it to him.
BTW the dead guy wanted to be a supreme court judge as a kid
JudyM
(29,251 posts)George Floyd may end up impacting the country as much as he wouldve as a supreme ct justice
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)oasis
(49,389 posts)and grown into a secret society of ultra right racist cops.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)Hooda guessed it?
malaise
(269,054 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Including BLOTUS, who votes from Florida, despite that Magat-Lago is not allowed to be used as a residence.
malaise
(269,054 posts)The truth
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)It would be great to see him cited for voter fraud.
George II
(67,782 posts)...although Florida officials probably won't press it.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)example: You live in Massachusetts and vote in a swing state that needs your vote.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)do we know if Chauvin was being paid via 1099? That would cause all kinds of issues for this POS.
Had a childhood friend who worked for the majority Power Company in MPLS and used a 1099 scam and claimed Residency in South Dakota as well a Voter Registration . When he sold his house in St Peter,well the Tax Man came to collect. And it was not a cheap bill to pay,plus he is still serving probation till next January.
Remember,when one sells their Primary Residence,those IRS as well as State Tax forms do mean something.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)1099's can burn one big time,if you do not keep it clean. Especially if your income is under a certain ceiling.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)more money.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)If you are paid via 1099, then you are an independent contractor, not an employee. The entity you work for has no obligation (or right) to withhold taxes in that case.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)But down here people bring in a lot of money, cash money, without a 1099. Mowing yards, cleaning up yards, home repair, car repairs., All sorts of work. They only take cash or a check. Never reported to anyone.
That is what I was thinking of.
whopis01
(3,514 posts)Wellstone_ruled was talking about whether or not he was paid via 1099, and you said "But their employer is supposed to take out SS and Medicare and Federal". I was just pointing out that was not the case with 1099 income.
Like I said, maybe I misunderstood what was being discussed.
George II
(67,782 posts)...and I believe she was living in California.
https://www.today.com/news/kellyanne-conway-donald-trump-s-daughter-tiffany-isn-t-registered-t107422
Tiffany Trump on voter rolls in 2 states, despite claims otherwise by Kellyanne Conway
Just one day after President Donald Trump said he would ask for a "major investigation" into his unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway pushed back on proof that shows the president's youngest daughter on voter registration rolls in two states.
Tiffany Trump is currently registered in both New York City and Philadelphia, according to state election records in New York and Pennsylvania. Trump was a student at the University of Pennsylvania until her graduation last May.
Conway disputed the findings during an interview Thursday on TODAY.
"I talked last night to Tiffany Trump, and she said it is flatly false that she is registered in two states," she said.
[this article has screen shots of her registration in both states!]
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)But has heard some things, very bad things, about her.
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)should void previous registrations .. but often does not. Technically (depending on the state) you might be legally required to "un-register" at your former .. but, again, almost nobody ever does. A should have some way of knowing what B is doing .. but, as in all things bureaucratic, that would require .. you know .. like time and effort. And that is why "voter rolls" are almost notoriously inaccurate.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Such a surprise.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)By Sarah RumpfMay 29th, 2020, 12:54 pm
The small Central Florida town of Windermere found itself thrown into national headlines this week when it was reported that Derek Chauvin, the Minneapolis police officer who was seen on video with his knee on the neck of George Floyd before he died, has a second home with a Windermere address. But Chauvin doesnt actually live in the town.
Windermere is a very small town in western Orange County, nestled on an isthmus spanning the Butler Chain of Lakes, comprised of 3,800 people living within 2.2 square miles. Its so small you might blink and miss it as you drove through, if not for the infamously restrictive speed limits (Windermere Police are well-known by locals for issuing tickets for driving even one or two miles over the posted limits) that slow you down enough to appreciate the quaint shops and Spanish moss-draped oak trees along Main Street. The main residential areas still feature dirt roads and short wooden posts for street signs.
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There are valid debates occurring in many cities about issues that may arise when law enforcement officers are not a part of the communities they are policing. In Chauvins case, he may not live within the town of Windermere, but he has viewed himself as enough of a Florida resident to vote in recent elections.
I confirmed Friday with Nicholas Shannin, the attorney for the Orange County Supervisor of Elections office, that a Derek Michael Chauvin with the Windermere address posted online voted in the 2016 and 2018 general elections in Florida. Voting records provided by Shannin indicate that Chauvin voted early in both elections, meaning that he was physically present in Orange County to cast his vote at an early voting location (usually at centrally located public facilities like libraries).
More: https://www.mediaite.com/news/small-florida-town-finds-itself-thrown-into-george-floyd-story-after-cop-revealed-to-have-second-home-nearby/
My sister used to live in the town of Windermere. For years now, she has lived outside of the town in Orange County, but still has a Windermere address. While some homes in the area are multi-million dollar mansions, many are more modest homes, and some are low cost townhouses.
Chavin's residence is questionable - according to his personnel records, he has worked for the Minneapolis Police Department since 2001:
By Staff and wire reports |
PUBLISHED: June 3, 2020 at 5:46 a.m. | UPDATED: June 3, 2020 at 6:21 a.m.
The Minneapolis Police Department on Tuesday released personnel records for Derek Chauvin, the now-fired officer accused of killing George Floyd, a black man whose death has sparked protest nationwide.
The records provide some insight into Chauvins background, starting as a military police officer with the U.S. Army from September 1996 to February 1997 and again from September 1999 to May 2000.
Derek Chauvin
However, the records included little detail about the 17 times Chauvin was the subject of internal affairs investigations by the Minneapolis department.
Chauvin, who had worked with the Police Department since October 2001, had been disciplined for only one incident during his tenure. It occurred in August 2007 in Longfellow, a neighborhood just south of downtown Minneapolis. Chauvin was accused of pulling a woman out of her car after stopping her for going 10 mph over the speed limit. The woman filed the complaint the next day.
More: https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/03/minneapolis-police-release-chauvins-personnel-records-offering-few-more-details/
Unless he was only working for MPD for a few months a year, how did he establish residency to vote in Florida in 2016 and 2018?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)LeftInTX
(25,374 posts)Sounds like you really don't need to establish residency. Trump is registered there and I doubt he has a FL driver's license. He does own a home.
Was Chauvin from FL originally?
From FL SOS:
Submit your valid Florida driver's license number or Florida identification card number. If you do not have either of these, you must provide the last four digits of your Social Security number. If you have not been issued a Florida driver's license number, Florida identification card number or social security number, you must write "none".
All he needs is:
Line 5 SSN
Line 7 xxxxxx st, somewhere in Florida
Linda 8 somewhere in Minnesota.
This is legal in Texas too.
This most important thing is that he did not vote in Minnesota.
Will need to look up FL statute. Sometimes people are registered in two states, which isn't criminal until they vote in both states. My son was registered in both NY and TX. He went to school in NY and voted up there. Now he's back here and voting in TX. He didn't vote in both states at the same time, but he didn't cancel his TX registration while he was in NY. Usually the penalty for this, is cancellation of a registration and you need to re-register.
Having a mailing address different than residence address is very common. My dad was in the military and was registered from Wisconsin, although he left WI 1949 and used his parents address and voted out of state until 1969. Lots of people do this.
https://www.myfloridaelections.com/portals/fsase/Documents/Voter%20Reg%20Apps/FL_Voter_Reg_App_DS-DE-39_111816.pdf
ETA: Here is the Statute: (2)?A person who willfully submits any false voter registration information commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided
An attorney can say someone is breaking the law, when they really aren't breaking the law.
Aaahhh. The attorney is running for Board of Elections in Pinellas County...
https://votedanhelm.com/
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)There was some reporting (subsequently proven incorrect) that he fled to his place in Windermere the day after the vid went viral. I'll bet it crossed his mind though.
He is clearly a serial asshole of the Nth degree.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That was before his former wife demonstrated her utility with a 9-Iron to him.
niyad
(113,340 posts)about this murdering thug) the woman being pulled out of her car was discussed here yesterday. Thug and his fellow officer pulled the woman from her car, shoved her in their patrol car, never said a word to her. Her infant and dog were left unattended in her car. In August.
lostnfound
(16,183 posts)Even the CVV and expiration number.
Omg.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)...what's the problem??
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)lame54
(35,293 posts)iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Asking for a friend.
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)different friend asking.
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)Lonestarblue
(10,011 posts)He has registered to vote in Florida, but his residence is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, DC. The terms to allow Mar-a-Lago to become a club prevent it from being used as a permanent residence. In reality, Trump is only supposed to live there no more than two weeks a year, which he has violated with his numerous trips, but how is it legal for him to vote in Florida when he has no address there.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)(D)s would get jail time.
progree
(10,909 posts)but mentioned it only at the bottom of the article. And didn't make any mention of the probable illegality of that:
Both Chauvin and his wife have registered to vote there, rather than in Minnesota, records show. Chauvin last cast a ballot in Florida in November 2018. His wifes registration is listed as inactive. Both are Republicans.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)A whole corrupt network being unearthed! This is just stunning.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)orleans
(34,060 posts)1. donald trump
2. derek chauvin
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)especially the ones who consider themselves republicans, which would be most of them.
I honestly don't think that the issue is just voting, my guess is there is some type of tax fraud going on also.
All states need to cross-reference their state, county and local police officers with the voter roles in no income tax states like Florida. My belief is that a lot will be unearthed.
BComplex
(8,053 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)
Now I would like to see if he ALSO voted in Minneapolis!
onethatcares
(16,172 posts)once you got a job or put your kids in school you had to surrender your car tags and get Floriduh plates. The police used to drive through corporate parking lots and check on cars that were there longer than two days.
At that time you also had to affirm a "Declaration of Domicile" saying you gave up your residency rights in a different state.
Currently it costs about $400.00 to change plates from E Bumfark SoDak to Floriduh. I don't see a rush on plate changes though.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)Funny how the Republicans scream about it being so bad while they are doing it.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)BComplex
(8,053 posts)The Grand Ole PROJECTION party.
Blue Owl
(50,423 posts)Even the one person I know personally who I suspect is commiting voter fraud is a wealthy Republican. Interesting pattern indeed.
d_b
(7,463 posts)how many other nazi shitheel cops do this
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)I know it's not a real common name but my daughter has an uncommon name but found out that there were 6 others with the same name on Facebook.
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)identifiers than just a name. This appears to be from a private (not official) source? I'd like to think that this was properly vetted, but .. you know .. internet .. people play games.
Edit: Chauvin does own property in FL, and apparently voted there in the last two generals 2016-18. Now the question would be .. is his FL residency (for voting purposes) legal?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Who can investigate in Congress? DOJ is complicit.