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(58,670 posts)Not that I really care about his real gender proclivities, but the usual hypocrisy surrounding typical Repubs is par for the course.
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)But it's more that he is being blackmailed by POTUS and who know who else!
C'mon Lindsey! Come out of the closet and be your true self. Nobody cares!
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)SKKY
(11,811 posts)...let this be true.
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)Silent3
(15,230 posts)Why shouldn't our side benefit from this kind of factual largess?
grumpyduck
(6,240 posts)That would say a lot. Unless the NDAs also say they can't.
I'd love to see that.
Eat. Shit. Lindsay.
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)if this is true.
CurtEastPoint
(18,650 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,034 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Makes sense
Raster
(20,998 posts)...those NDAs would be laughed out of court.
Sorry, those non-disclosure agreements were signed to obscure illegal acts.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Thank you
grumpyduck
(6,240 posts)GoFundMe would probably raise a ton of money for the guy's legal defense.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)What will matter is that they are GAY prostitutes...
And that is why I am not enjoying this. I know what this will become, an indictment of his sexuality NOT his morality.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Oh yeah, and the blackmail thing. I think now we know why he pulled a complete 180 the day after he went golfing with Trump. His "secret" compromised his integrity. Assuming his sexuality is his secret and not something else.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)and a half. So my guess is voters in his state have internalized that. Him being a loyal rightwing republican likely mean more than him being gay, if that is true about him.
Some people that are speculated about turn out not to be what people guessed, while others surprise. For example, the great baseball HOF George Brett never really dated while playing his long career. Some speculated about his sexuality. Once he was done with baseball in his forties, he dated and married a woman and is married today with several kids. Kevin Spacey came off as heterosexual (at least to me), so what he was doing forcing himself on men as a gay man came as a shock to me. The father of the Smart woman who was kidnapped in Utah came out as gay a year or two ago, he came off as the total heterosexual.
Personally, I wish that everyone would simply live what they are sexually. It makes NO difference to sane people in this modern world who a person loves.
stopdiggin
(11,317 posts)Is there a real source reporting this? Or are we just trading salacious tidbits over the back fence?
Nevilledog
(51,122 posts)stopdiggin
(11,317 posts)NameAlreadyTaken
(978 posts)such as Datalounge for one example. They call him "La Senatrice." There's really nothng new about this rumor.
msongs
(67,420 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Because being gay or even seeming gay is a bad thing - something to be giggled at or slammed for or put down for.
So sad to see this continue here.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Sometimes the two goals go into conflict, the moral requirement not to bash a person's sexuality, and the need to call out a hypocrit.
Graham has consistently voted for anti-LGBTQ legistlation. But other republicans have done that an were found to be LGBTQ. So, it is the hypocrisy.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)President Obama, with no proof, is said to have murdered a Gay lover. Hillary has been said by them to have girlfriends. They have routinely done this to prominent democrats.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Cuz Miss Lindsey is so outrageous, surely Lady G is even more so right?
Homophobes!!1!
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Complaining on DU about members here using gay as an insult is about as effective as a black victims complaining about targeted police brutality to the police.
I'm not saying the severity of the harm is equivalent - but far too many on DU are tone deaf, and refuse to listen to those of us most impacted, so the result is systemic homophobia on DU for which there appears to be no cure.
#tootiredtohavethisdailybattle
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not sure how much I can take about this subject. It was occasional in the past, but it seems to have become much more accepted lately.
Many of us hate it, and as we know, it has driven many away. A shame.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)It sort of feels like being a battered spouse. Everything is so overwhelming - so maybe, on this issue, I can just put up with being kicked or punched, as long as it doesn't break any bones.
Allies should not be kicking or punching us - but - it is clear from the fact that we continue to run into these threads - that fewer than 50% of DU find them troubling.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I'm here less and less.
But no, please never put up with being kicked and punched. You are a great voice here.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Duncan Grant
(8,264 posts)And has been for many years.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ms.Toad and Behind the Aegis are pretty much the reasons I still check in.
Many other good DUers who don't engage in gay-giggling as well. I hope they know they're appreciated.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He has helped pass legistlation that is a lot more damaging to LGBTQ people than what is being said about him on DU.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Using gay as an insult, even if you don't conciously believe it is an insult, is still a gut punch.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)Well apparently some in the gay community are the ones using this nickname. We here are discussing the story. The story is that he is engaging in prostitution with other men while at the same time supporting a party and agenda that continually attacks gay peoples civil rights. Are there some that use stupid sophomoric names? Yeah there are. Report it.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)And others in the black community are offended by the use - even when it is used by blacks.
And the offense within the black community is pretty universal when white folks use it.
Same principal.
The hypocrisy meme is a convenient excuse to yank his chain by calling him gay because you know he hates it and because it gives you cover for using homophobic taunts. Yes - homophobic, not sophmoric.
As to reporting it - DU's record on homophobia is piss-poor. It has actively purged LGBT members in the not-so-distant past, and threads like this one (and more offensive) are a dime-a-dozen. That doesn't make it acceptable (or non-homophobic) any more than the prevalence of law enforcement violence against blacks converts that behavior into non-racist behavior.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)I hear ya I am just saying these are the tools we have to work with. Having served on juries here I would mark them as offensive.
But as a non-gay person I am not going to go after and reprimand the gay community for what language they use. And this is a story that is deserving of discussion. Personally I wont call anyone Lady G or miss lindsey or any of that garbage but when discussing the story since the person is being identified as lady g... Well thats what people are going to refer to.
I dont really care who sleeps with who or does what with their bodies.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Although I might have private conversations within my community about the message it sends when we do (in public) the kind of speculation that we find homophobic when it is imposed on us.
My issue is that it is overwhelmingly non-LGBT people using it on DU, and that is the equivalent of white people using the "N" word. Not acceptable - even if you are close enough, in private, in an LGBT community that has embraced you to use it as an in-joke.
I think most LGBT people would agree that - even within our community - threatening outing someone; using being gay as a weapon is not acceptable. And it is worse when - as on DU- our request to purported straight allies to stop using our lives as a weapon are almost universally met with disdain.
The point really isn't whehter you care who sleeps with whom - it is that (largely) straights feel free to use our lives as a battering ram against enemies, which inherenty leaves us bruised with each blow struck.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Its bullshit, but its bullshit theyre utterly invested in and will defend unto death for some fucking reason.
czarjak
(11,278 posts)lunasun
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If LG is making political decisions based on blackmail threats he needs to get out of the senate
Bayard
(22,100 posts)Do you?
The only issue I care about, is whether South Carolina would rather vote for a black man over a gay white guy.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Link to tweet
There is a homophobic republican senator who is no better than Trump who keeps passing legislation that is damaging to the lgbt and minority communities. Every sex worker I know has been hired by this man. Wondering if enough of us spoke out if that could get him out of office?
Sean Harding #BLM
@SeanHardingXXX
I cannot do this alone. If youd be willing to stand with me against LG please let me know.
Sean Harding #BLM
@SeanHardingXXX
Im currently not taking any media questions until Ive had time to discuss situation with a legal team- theres QUITE a few - feel free to leave me a message in my DMs or email me at SeanHardingXXX@gmail.com and I will get back to you.
@SeanHardingXXX
So far I have two individuals who would be willing to go public and support my claims. Anyone else?
Sean Harding #BLM
@SeanHardingXXX
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21h
Thank you, I know Im definitely not alone because he is a running joke amongst us. Im hoping others will be brave enough to stand with me.
stopdiggin
(11,317 posts)Well .. gosh .. why didn't you SAY so?
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)is causing someone or someones to speculate. Lady G,okay,better than Leningrad Lindsey I guess. Both are apropos.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Didnt quite catch the Lady G part but Im all ears...!
spanone
(135,844 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)I've ALWAYS said that Pussy-Grabber has something on him. . . .
The SHAMEFUL thing is that Lindsay belongs to such a homophobic party. . . Disgusting but not at all surprising.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Unable to control what he was born as, but set on punishing anyone that shares his sexuality.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)He's probably self-loathing which makes him pitiful, as I bet he grew up in some kind of terribly homophobic family.
Nonetheless, his total obsequious behavior with Pussy-Grabber is completely inexcusable. He has no integrity at all, and I'm not even addressing anything at all to do with his sexuality.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)and at the top of your voices.
he cant sue all of them.
and the legal defense fund would overflow w money.
have a parade of all his fetishes.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Or is hiring sex workers a-ok?
mopinko
(70,127 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)How does that work (never having hired anyone for sex)?
Does one ask for the escort's ID and verify that they are indeed who they say they are before the document is signed? Is a notary present?
Then after all this is done, the client disappears to lock up the document, then returns and the fun begins?
Come on people.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)but i am sure a lot of people have a lot riding on what other's know.
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)The NDA thing is so painfully, obviously made up. Ill wait for some evidence.
Yes, its been rumored for a long, long time.
As a gay man, Im just thrilled to the toes that straight people now have more cutesy nicknames they can toss about with glee no matter how much we tell them its homophobic. Well, I have a gay friend who said its ok! is the new, I cant be racist. I have a black friend.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Then legal experts could weigh in on the validity of them.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Take him out.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)tinrobot
(10,903 posts)If Sen. Graham paid for those services, then the NDAs are null and void.
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)former9thward
(32,025 posts)If there was an "army" people would be telling their stories. No NDA would stop them. We have seen in recent years NDAs are worthless when it comes to this stuff.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)When there is an asymmetric difference in power, the weaker party keep their mouths shut.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)Both of whom had NDAs with Trump about sex and then freely broke them with the media.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)former9thward
(32,025 posts)How many are in this "army" of NDAs with Graham that no one in the media can seem to find?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There is a reason why they are documents done in secret.
Time will tell, the accuser will need to present something concrete after kicking off a news frenzy.