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Rumors are flying about 'Lady G' and why they are in Trump's pocket.. (Original Post) HipChick Jun 2020 OP
I doubt if anybody would be surprised if that were true... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #1
I agree with you leftieNanner Jun 2020 #7
Yep. That sounds legit. I would be surprised if he hired a female escort. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #63
Please, for the love of all that is good in this world... SKKY Jun 2020 #2
If they put in on Facebook would that be okay? Nothing is fact checked and everything goes, right? dem4decades Jun 2020 #3
If it's not a fact fact, it's an alternate fact. Silent3 Jun 2020 #4
Well, I'm guessing the services he uses could drop him as a client. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #5
I would bet that they are well paid leftieNanner Jun 2020 #9
In other news, fire is hot. CurtEastPoint Jun 2020 #6
Good one! Mme. Defarge Jun 2020 #10
We knew the Con had something on him malaise Jun 2020 #8
Prostitution (male or female) is illegal even in DC... Raster Jun 2020 #11
Ah, that's what I figured too soothsayer Jun 2020 #40
Well, if any of this is true, we need a whistleblower. grumpyduck Jun 2020 #12
relative in S. Car. says this is generally known there northoftheborder Jun 2020 #13
If Graham is hiring prostitutes it won't matter Drahthaardogs Jun 2020 #14
Well, there is the hypocrisy thing. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #19
His sexuality has been the subject of interest for at least a decade Blue_true Jun 2020 #50
the "Gay Internet" is who? stopdiggin Jun 2020 #15
Their office is right next to the AntiFa store. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #26
OK. Well then at least we know they're reliable! (nt) stopdiggin Jun 2020 #34
This has been discussed for years on the gay chat fora NameAlreadyTaken Jun 2020 #16
unfounded rumors from twitter being promoted on DU. sad nt msongs Jun 2020 #17
Been known in DC and his home state for years.. HipChick Jun 2020 #18
Yup. cwydro Jun 2020 #32
I believe people are more upset with his hyprocracy than his sexuality. Blue_true Jun 2020 #51
I 100% agree!! If the GOP said this about a dem we would throw a fit. nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #49
The GOP has made that claim. Blue_true Jun 2020 #53
Waiting for DU to get outraged about anyone calling Graham a nickname like Lady G Arazi Jun 2020 #20
What's the point. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #27
Thank you Ms Toad. cwydro Jun 2020 #36
I'm too exhausted by everything else that I'm picking my battles. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #61
I hear you. cwydro Jun 2020 #62
Thanks. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #64
"You are a great voice here." I'll second that. Duncan Grant Jun 2020 #74
Absolutely. cwydro Jun 2020 #76
I agree completely. n/t totodeinhere Jun 2020 #41
I believe that people are put off by Graham's potential hypocrisy. Blue_true Jun 2020 #55
That's fine - but talk about his hypocrisy, not whether or not he is gay. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #60
Well apparently some in the gay community SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #71
Some in the black community use the "N" word Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #72
Hey I hear ya. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #75
My problem is not within the LGBT community - Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #77
Thank you. Codeine Jun 2020 #65
Lady Lindy? czarjak Jun 2020 #21
If he is not a USsenator it's not much of a story. Vote him out .$support Harrison for the win lunasun Jun 2020 #22
I don't care, Bayard Jun 2020 #23
ok, here's the thread octoberlib Jun 2020 #24
well, now there's some solid evidence stopdiggin Jun 2020 #38
And Lady G is trending on Twitter octoberlib Jun 2020 #25
So the new Doo Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #28
I was wondering who that sex worker was tweeting about soothsayer Jun 2020 #29
No One in government service should be allowed to ask for an NDA from anyone. spanone Jun 2020 #30
I am sure it's true. BigDemVoter Jun 2020 #31
Log Cabin Republicans are a thing. octoberlib Jun 2020 #45
If he is LGBTQ, he could be a self-hating person. Blue_true Jun 2020 #56
I bet you are correct. BigDemVoter Jun 2020 #58
how to get around the nda- all speak at once mopinko Jun 2020 #33
or- mopinko Jun 2020 #35
Can you have an NDA for an illegal activity? soothsayer Jun 2020 #39
no and yes. well. as long as you treat them well. mopinko Jun 2020 #43
Wait, I have to ask. Prostitutes or escorts sign NDAs? Seriously? cwydro Jun 2020 #37
it wouldnt surprise me. how enforceable they are is another matter. mopinko Jun 2020 #44
I know, I'm rolling my eyes. Sympthsical Jun 2020 #54
I have heard of them in Sugar-daddy relationship situations. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #57
Perhaps someone should post a redacted NDA for us Generic Brad Jun 2020 #69
Graham is a hypocrite. roamer65 Jun 2020 #42
This is all over Twitter and the media right now big style. sunonmars Jun 2020 #46
Prostitution is illegal in DC. NDAs don't cover criminal acts. tinrobot Jun 2020 #47
Wikipedia: dalton99a Jun 2020 #48
This is laughable. former9thward Jun 2020 #52
Like all the women Trump have them with stepping forward? Blue_true Jun 2020 #59
I guess you have forgotten about Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. former9thward Jun 2020 #66
Just two. You proved my point. Daniels kept at it, but McDougal clammed up. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #67
Just two? former9thward Jun 2020 #68
How can the media find NDAs if no one come forward? Blue_true Jun 2020 #70
I think it's more than this, maybe a dead boy or a live Russian intelligence officer. Fozzledick Jun 2020 #73

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
1. I doubt if anybody would be surprised if that were true...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jun 2020


Not that I really care about his real gender proclivities, but the usual hypocrisy surrounding typical Repubs is par for the course.

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
7. I agree with you
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jun 2020

But it's more that he is being blackmailed by POTUS and who know who else!

C'mon Lindsey! Come out of the closet and be your true self. Nobody cares!

Silent3

(15,230 posts)
4. If it's not a fact fact, it's an alternate fact.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

Why shouldn't our side benefit from this kind of factual largess?

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
5. Well, I'm guessing the services he uses could drop him as a client.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jun 2020

That would say a lot. Unless the NDAs also say they can't.

I'd love to see that.

Eat. Shit. Lindsay.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
11. Prostitution (male or female) is illegal even in DC...
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jun 2020

...those NDAs would be laughed out of court.

Sorry, those non-disclosure agreements were signed to obscure illegal acts.

grumpyduck

(6,240 posts)
12. Well, if any of this is true, we need a whistleblower.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jun 2020

GoFundMe would probably raise a ton of money for the guy's legal defense.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
14. If Graham is hiring prostitutes it won't matter
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

What will matter is that they are GAY prostitutes...

And that is why I am not enjoying this. I know what this will become, an indictment of his sexuality NOT his morality.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Well, there is the hypocrisy thing.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

Oh yeah, and the blackmail thing. I think now we know why he pulled a complete 180 the day after he went golfing with Trump. His "secret" compromised his integrity. Assuming his sexuality is his secret and not something else.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
50. His sexuality has been the subject of interest for at least a decade
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jun 2020

and a half. So my guess is voters in his state have internalized that. Him being a loyal rightwing republican likely mean more than him being gay, if that is true about him.

Some people that are speculated about turn out not to be what people guessed, while others surprise. For example, the great baseball HOF George Brett never really dated while playing his long career. Some speculated about his sexuality. Once he was done with baseball in his forties, he dated and married a woman and is married today with several kids. Kevin Spacey came off as heterosexual (at least to me), so what he was doing forcing himself on men as a gay man came as a shock to me. The father of the Smart woman who was kidnapped in Utah came out as gay a year or two ago, he came off as the total heterosexual.

Personally, I wish that everyone would simply live what they are sexually. It makes NO difference to sane people in this modern world who a person loves.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
15. the "Gay Internet" is who?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:09 PM
Jun 2020

Is there a real source reporting this? Or are we just trading salacious tidbits over the back fence?

NameAlreadyTaken

(978 posts)
16. This has been discussed for years on the gay chat fora
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jun 2020

such as Datalounge for one example. They call him "La Senatrice." There's really nothng new about this rumor.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
32. Yup.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jun 2020

Because being gay or even seeming gay is a bad thing - something to be giggled at or slammed for or put down for.

So sad to see this continue here.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
51. I believe people are more upset with his hyprocracy than his sexuality.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jun 2020

Sometimes the two goals go into conflict, the moral requirement not to bash a person's sexuality, and the need to call out a hypocrit.

Graham has consistently voted for anti-LGBTQ legistlation. But other republicans have done that an were found to be LGBTQ. So, it is the hypocrisy.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. The GOP has made that claim.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jun 2020

President Obama, with no proof, is said to have murdered a Gay lover. Hillary has been said by them to have girlfriends. They have routinely done this to prominent democrats.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
20. Waiting for DU to get outraged about anyone calling Graham a nickname like Lady G
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jun 2020

Cuz Miss Lindsey is so outrageous, surely Lady G is even more so right?

Homophobes!!1!



Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
27. What's the point.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jun 2020

Complaining on DU about members here using gay as an insult is about as effective as a black victims complaining about targeted police brutality to the police.

I'm not saying the severity of the harm is equivalent - but far too many on DU are tone deaf, and refuse to listen to those of us most impacted, so the result is systemic homophobia on DU for which there appears to be no cure.

#tootiredtohavethisdailybattle

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
36. Thank you Ms Toad.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jun 2020

Not sure how much I can take about this subject. It was occasional in the past, but it seems to have become much more accepted lately.

Many of us hate it, and as we know, it has driven many away. A shame.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
61. I'm too exhausted by everything else that I'm picking my battles.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jun 2020

It sort of feels like being a battered spouse. Everything is so overwhelming - so maybe, on this issue, I can just put up with being kicked or punched, as long as it doesn't break any bones.

Allies should not be kicking or punching us - but - it is clear from the fact that we continue to run into these threads - that fewer than 50% of DU find them troubling.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
62. I hear you.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jun 2020

I'm here less and less.

But no, please never put up with being kicked and punched. You are a great voice here.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
76. Absolutely.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jun 2020

Ms.Toad and Behind the Aegis are pretty much the reasons I still check in.

Many other good DUers who don't engage in gay-giggling as well. I hope they know they're appreciated.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
55. I believe that people are put off by Graham's potential hypocrisy.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jun 2020

He has helped pass legistlation that is a lot more damaging to LGBTQ people than what is being said about him on DU.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
60. That's fine - but talk about his hypocrisy, not whether or not he is gay.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jun 2020

Using gay as an insult, even if you don't conciously believe it is an insult, is still a gut punch.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
71. Well apparently some in the gay community
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jun 2020

Well apparently some in the gay community are the ones using this nickname. We here are discussing the story. The story is that he is engaging in prostitution with other men while at the same time supporting a party and agenda that continually attacks gay people’s civil rights. Are there some that use stupid sophomoric names? Yeah there are. Report it.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
72. Some in the black community use the "N" word
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:00 PM
Jun 2020

And others in the black community are offended by the use - even when it is used by blacks.

And the offense within the black community is pretty universal when white folks use it.

Same principal.

The hypocrisy meme is a convenient excuse to yank his chain by calling him gay because you know he hates it and because it gives you cover for using homophobic taunts. Yes - homophobic, not sophmoric.

As to reporting it - DU's record on homophobia is piss-poor. It has actively purged LGBT members in the not-so-distant past, and threads like this one (and more offensive) are a dime-a-dozen. That doesn't make it acceptable (or non-homophobic) any more than the prevalence of law enforcement violence against blacks converts that behavior into non-racist behavior.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
75. Hey I hear ya.
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jun 2020

I hear ya I am just saying these are the tools we have to work with. Having served on juries here I would mark them as offensive.

But as a non-gay person I am not going to go after and reprimand the gay community for what language they use. And this is a story that is deserving of discussion. Personally I won’t call anyone Lady G or miss lindsey or any of that garbage but when discussing the story since the person is being identified as lady g... Well thats what people are going to refer to.

I don’t really care who sleeps with who or does what with their bodies.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
77. My problem is not within the LGBT community -
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jun 2020

Although I might have private conversations within my community about the message it sends when we do (in public) the kind of speculation that we find homophobic when it is imposed on us.

My issue is that it is overwhelmingly non-LGBT people using it on DU, and that is the equivalent of white people using the "N" word. Not acceptable - even if you are close enough, in private, in an LGBT community that has embraced you to use it as an in-joke.

I think most LGBT people would agree that - even within our community - threatening outing someone; using being gay as a weapon is not acceptable. And it is worse when - as on DU- our request to purported straight allies to stop using our lives as a weapon are almost universally met with disdain.

The point really isn't whehter you care who sleeps with whom - it is that (largely) straights feel free to use our lives as a battering ram against enemies, which inherenty leaves us bruised with each blow struck.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
65. Thank you.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:04 PM
Jun 2020

It’s bullshit, but it’s bullshit they’re utterly invested in and will defend unto death for some fucking reason.

Bayard

(22,100 posts)
23. I don't care,
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jun 2020

Do you?

The only issue I care about, is whether South Carolina would rather vote for a black man over a gay white guy.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
24. ok, here's the thread
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jun 2020



There is a homophobic republican senator who is no better than Trump who keeps passing legislation that is damaging to the lgbt and minority communities. Every sex worker I know has been hired by this man. Wondering if enough of us spoke out if that could get him out of office?



Sean Harding #BLM
@SeanHardingXXX
I cannot do this alone. If you’d be willing to stand with me against LG please let me know.


Sean Harding #BLM
@SeanHardingXXX
I’m currently not taking any media questions until I’ve had time to discuss situation with a legal team- there’s QUITE a few - feel free to leave me a message in my DM’s or email me at SeanHardingXXX@gmail.com and I will get back to you.


@SeanHardingXXX

So far I have two individuals who would be willing to go public and support my claims. Anyone else?


Sean Harding #BLM
@SeanHardingXXX
·
21h
Thank you, I know I’m definitely not alone because he is a running joke amongst us. I’m hoping others will be brave enough to stand with me.

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
38. well, now there's some solid evidence
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jun 2020
"Every sex worker I know has been hired by this man."

Well .. gosh .. why didn't you SAY so?
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
28. So the new Doo
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jun 2020

is causing someone or someones to speculate. Lady G,okay,better than Leningrad Lindsey I guess. Both are apropos.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
29. I was wondering who that sex worker was tweeting about
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jun 2020

Didn’t quite catch the Lady G part but I’m all ears...!

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
31. I am sure it's true.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jun 2020

I've ALWAYS said that Pussy-Grabber has something on him. . . .

The SHAMEFUL thing is that Lindsay belongs to such a homophobic party. . . Disgusting but not at all surprising.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. If he is LGBTQ, he could be a self-hating person.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jun 2020

Unable to control what he was born as, but set on punishing anyone that shares his sexuality.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
58. I bet you are correct.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

He's probably self-loathing which makes him pitiful, as I bet he grew up in some kind of terribly homophobic family.

Nonetheless, his total obsequious behavior with Pussy-Grabber is completely inexcusable. He has no integrity at all, and I'm not even addressing anything at all to do with his sexuality.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
33. how to get around the nda- all speak at once
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jun 2020

and at the top of your voices.
he cant sue all of them.
and the legal defense fund would overflow w money.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
37. Wait, I have to ask. Prostitutes or escorts sign NDAs? Seriously?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

How does that work (never having hired anyone for sex)?

Does one ask for the escort's ID and verify that they are indeed who they say they are before the document is signed? Is a notary present?

Then after all this is done, the client disappears to lock up the document, then returns and the fun begins?

Come on people.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
44. it wouldnt surprise me. how enforceable they are is another matter.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jun 2020

but i am sure a lot of people have a lot riding on what other's know.

Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
54. I know, I'm rolling my eyes.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:03 PM
Jun 2020

The NDA thing is so painfully, obviously made up. I’ll wait for some evidence.

Yes, it’s been rumored for a long, long time.

As a gay man, I’m just thrilled to the toes that straight people now have more cutesy nicknames they can toss about with glee no matter how much we tell them it’s homophobic. “Well, I have a gay friend who said it’s ok!” is the new, “I can’t be racist. I have a black friend.”

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
69. Perhaps someone should post a redacted NDA for us
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jun 2020

Then legal experts could weigh in on the validity of them.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
47. Prostitution is illegal in DC. NDAs don't cover criminal acts.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jun 2020

If Sen. Graham paid for those services, then the NDAs are null and void.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
52. This is laughable.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jun 2020

If there was an "army" people would be telling their stories. No NDA would stop them. We have seen in recent years NDAs are worthless when it comes to this stuff.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. Like all the women Trump have them with stepping forward?
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jun 2020

When there is an asymmetric difference in power, the weaker party keep their mouths shut.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
66. I guess you have forgotten about Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.
Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jun 2020

Both of whom had NDAs with Trump about sex and then freely broke them with the media.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
70. How can the media find NDAs if no one come forward?
Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jun 2020

There is a reason why they are documents done in secret.

Time will tell, the accuser will need to present something concrete after kicking off a news frenzy.

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