Why do some here call Lindsey Graham "Miss Lindsey?"

[Archae]

He does not strike me as being effeminate.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

1. he strikes me that way

[Archae]

2. He's an asshole, yes.

But not effeminate.

[Funtatlaguy]

7. Open secret in DC that he is in the closet

[ms liberty]

51. Also an open secret in both Carolinas

There may be some blue haired old ladies in Charleston or Savannah who think he's just a confirmed batchelor, but that's only because thinking the alternative would give them the vapours.

[HipChick]

62. There's something emerging that he hired male sexworkers..maybe that is what Trump has

has hanging over his head..
Known secret in DC and his home state...
It's all over Twitter now too..

[SharonAnn]

19. He definitely strikes me as gay. And my "gaydar" is fairly good.

Gay doesn't necessarily mean overtly effeminate.

[Maru Kitteh]

3. Because some people think homophobic, misogynistic slurs are okay

when they are being employed against people we don't approve of.

[MissB]

9. Wish I could rec your post

[msongs]

28. exactly nt

[frogmarch]

29. Exactly.

I thought Democrats were better than that.

[cayugafalls]

30. Thank you. Well said.

We should be better than that...

[Ms. Toad]

31. Thank you. n/t

[aidbo]

33. Yep

[scarletwoman]

35. Great post - it's a shame so many other people in this thread seem to not get it. (nt)

[Lucinda]

37. Exactly.

[obamanut2012]

40. Yup, same for calling RW women bitches, etc.

Calling, say, Ivanaka a bitch is literally the same intent as someone calling Warren a bitch. No different. Misogynistic language isn't "purified" if it's being used against a wingnut. It is still bigoted language.

[Tipperary]

71. I saw that slur just yesterday or the day before, from someone here that I did not expect to use it.

Disappointing.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

57. Exactly right. It's also anti-trans.

Lots of people on DU are fans of fatphobic talk, too.

[ooky]

65. +1

[Tipperary]

70. This.

As evidenced by numerous comments in this thread.

[crickets]

75. Thank you. We should be better than that. nt

[FreeState]

4. Because they are homophobic n/t

[roamer65]

6. THIS.

[MLAA]

5. Maybe because He gets the vapors a lot.

[obamanut2012]

41. And what does that mean?

You just proved the point.

[MLAA]

69. You are right. My bad, I apologize.

[PJMcK]

8. Yeah, your question is for real!!!

Well played, Archae!

(wink)

[herding cats]

11. It's a homophobic slur which should never be used nor allowed to stand here.

It's because some folks assume he's gay and somehow bashing that makes them feel bigger. As if there's not enough to poke at Graham for at this point.

It disgust me.

Yeah, I went there.

[marble falls]

17. It pisses me off every time its done here on DU of all places.

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. he strikes me more as an evil Mr Rogers

[JustGene]

13. Because it's bad to be a (implied) young girl?

[blm]

14. He was nicked that decades ago in SC.

I first heard it on vacation in Pawleys Island in 1999.

Every time he casts a vote against gay rights it renews debate amongst activists in the state if they should out him or not. Outing is just not done there.

[herding cats]

16. None of that makes it ok.

This is 2020, More than two decade later. One would think we can discuss such issues without using slurs now. The world and the US have changed. Either we evolve or we succumb to the talking points of our opposition.

Can we agree on that?

[blm]

18. I didn't post that it was OK. I made note of the early existence

of the nickname that predates DU.

[obamanut2012]

42. So what? It's still a slur

Just because someone LGBT says it, doesn't make it any better.

[blm]

59. I replied with a clue of its origin that predates DU.

Nowhere did I say it is not a slur.
I also don’t presume to tell members of the LGBT community how they should address others.

[Happy Hoosier]

15. He doesn't?

He does strike me that way, though I don't call him that, because that smacks of gay-baiting IMO.

[Archetypist]

20. Let's not focus on stuff like this please.

There's plenty to critique people for on policy alone.

[The empressof all]

21. Because...

Even among some Progressives...Calling a Man "woman like" is the Greatest Insult. Probably even worse than being called Fat...

[JustGene]

25. This

[BamaRefugee]

22. My gay brother in South Carolina calls him that. His gay friends call him that. I'm ok with it.

If it’s ok with them.

[FreeState]

23. Unless your gay you shouldn't use it

It’s part of our cultures historic vernacular and it’s offensive.

[obamanut2012]

43. oh brother

[BannonsLiver]

24. I think he has a slightly effeminate southern dandy thing going, actually.

Doesn’t make him gay, though, as someone rightly pointed out up thread. I don’t call him that name you mentioned in the OP. It’s in poor taste.

[Blue_true]

26. It is a crutch. Personal insults are like that.

Some can be gentle derision, like references here to what Trump eats and what that is doing to him.

Some are vile. They question a person's sexual orientation, truthfulness without justification.

Some are borderline, but when aimed at some people, most likely are ok. An example is questioning the true religious faith of Trump's spirature adviser, or that of Falwell at Liberty University, or Franklin Graham, ect.

[Shaddox]

27. JFC- Lindsay Graham is Nazi Blanche Dubois - I don't care if he is gay.

[obamanut2012]

44. But do you care if gay slurs are used against him?

And if you are, why?

And, Graham is a man and IDs as male, so he isn't "Blanche Dubois." It is appalling you think that's okay.

[Arazi]

32. Why Moscow Mitch? Why Traitor Trump? Why Sarah Slanders? Why Kayleigh Macaninny?

Theres elements of truth in the nicks.

Personally I do find Lindsey Graham overly groomed and metrosexual. His own homophobic reluctance to come out of the closet ensured the appellation

[obamanut2012]

45. So...... because he is closeted and GOP it's his fault people call him LGBT slurs?

Wow.

JFC.

[NYC Liberal]

49. It's amazing how people will jump through hoops to justify bigoted slurs when used against

political opponents and then turn around and denounce the same bigotry coming from others.

[themaguffin]

64. Oh ffs

He's hurting gay Americans and many others as well.

People are letting him know that they know.

[Behind the Aegis]

34. Because some to refuse to acknowledge their HETEROSEXUAL PRIVILEGE.

Heterosexism and homophobia are all too frequent among those where it should not be.

[Kaleva]

36. Freepers call him that because they believe he is gay.

Over at that site, it's meant as a homophobic slur.

[obamanut2012]

46. lol it is here, too!

BECAUSE IT IS A HOMOPHOBIC AND MISOGYNISTIC SLUR!

[Kaleva]

47. I agree.

[octoberlib]

38. Whether he's gay or not, it's homophobic.

[obamanut2012]

39. Because people like using homophobic and misogynistic slurs against

People they consider enemies and the other, especially when they are closeted men.

It is disgusting, and should be alerted on every time, and posters doing it after being called out for it should be banned. Period.

Same for calling RW women bitches.

[RandiFan1290]

48. Why don't you ask them?

[Blue_Adept]

50. Because we don't have any real red handle rules here

With the departure of so much of the diversity of this site in the past ten years, and especially during the 2016 primary season, it's turned into far more of a "boys club" than it's been in a long, long time.

[obamanut2012]

55. this is the correct answer

[JHB]

52. Jon Stewart

He always imitated Graham with an exaggerated Southern Belle voice

[Buckeye_Democrat]

67. Ooh, I do declare...!

I 'member it.

[Ilsa]

53. "Miss Pittypat" was the earlier nickname, before "Snowflake"

became the nickname. He would get offended by Obama's tan suit or something equally ridiculous. Miss Pittypat was Scarlett O'Hara's aunt in Atlanta or from South Carolina, who got the vapors over anything. I think that was the nature of the slur, not sexuality.

[obamanut2012]

56. Ummm.... that is literally homophobic and misogynistic

Aunt Pittypat was a woman. Graham is a man.

You cannot toss logic out because you don't think it is gross to call him this. Lots of fellow LGBT in this thread with me saying it is. IT IS.

[Ilsa]

61. Okay on everything you said, but "Misogynistic?"

Just my thoughts:
The character Pittypat, elderly with a antebellum mindset, was concerned more with social perceptions vs facing a changing world. Her endorsement of behavior was wishy-washy. That was a truth in a fictional story, and that wishy-washyness wrapped in a southern demeanor and gender divisions described LG perfectly. That's not misogynism. I wish I could think of a well known male fictional character with her characteristics to compare Graham to, which I would do, but no one comes to mind.

I'll be more sensitive to these perceptions and comparisons in the future, and I apologize for the aggravation I've caused.

[ms liberty]

54. As was noted above, he's been called that for many years

Here in the Carolinas, and not by straight people, but by members of the LGBTQ community. He has mannerisms that I have heard described as "prissy and pissy Miss Lindsey" (by a gay friend) which I would say has a somewhat different meaning than effeminate, which doesn't describe him, IMO. I would agree with the "prissy and pissy" as a description of his personality, but I don't use those kind of terms because I'm not a gay man in the Carolinas, and it's not a good look for an ally of any minority to use slurs in discussions. I don't necessarily fault anyone who does though; and I don't think it's my job to police the language of my gay friends, so they get no grief from me about it. My straight friends would hear a discussion of better terms and phrases to use.

[obamanut2012]

58. Your gay friends are also being misogynistic and homophobic

I know many of my fellow LGBT who use sexist language, who throw around "faggot" and "twink" as slurs. They are not excused from this, and neither are you, for not condemining their slurs, but shrugging them away.

[ms liberty]

66. I don't know anyone in today's world who uses those slurs you are using

At least no one who would use them in front of me, so don't associate me or my friends with those; that one's on you and your friends. It's not my job to stop you, you can be as judgmental, inflexible and rigid as you choose about whatever you want, and you're making judgments on a lot of people you don't know in this thread. And all without any knowledge of the circumstances or context of those whose responses you condemn. How much glass in that house you're in right now? Are you so pure that you should be casting so many stones?

[blm]

60. Pretty much my experience

[LiberalFighter]

63. He strikes me as being a pansy. Southern pansy.

[irisblue]

68. And that is a homophobic slur as well. Really, you want that attached to your good name here

[LiberalFighter]

73. So you go after me and no one else. Geesh

[irisblue]

74. Nope, but yours was the last one when I read the thread.

Still a slur.

[SMC22307]

72. Because he comes across as a Southern drama queen... I do declare!

Has nothing to do with gay or not gay, but I don't use the expression because many see it as a slur.