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Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 02:59 PM Jun 2020

Bar owner alleged to have killed BLM protestor chums w/ Don Jr.



Black Protester Shot to Death Outside Omaha Bar

The slain man was identified as James Scurlock, 22. The white bar owner was reportedly in custody.


by Tracy Connor
Daily Beast, May 31, 2020

Excerpt...

(Jake) Gardner made no secret of his political and philosophical views. In 2016, while in Washington the attend President Trump’s inauguration, he was interviewed about his views on the Women’s March underway.

“Everyone has a right to speak their mind,” he said, wearing a Trump sweatshirt, with his dog Bron in a MAGA vest.

“Everyone loves the dog until they see the vest,” he said.

He posted a photo in 2017 of himself and Bron posing with Donald Trump Jr. with the caption: “Here’s a guy who returns my emails 100 percent of the time, every time. #FAKENEWS #BRONANDDON.”

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/black-protester-james-scurlock-shot-to-death-outside-omaha-bar?ref=home
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Bar owner alleged to have killed BLM protestor chums w/ Don Jr. (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 OP
Turds of a feather ... 11 Bravo Jun 2020 #1
Gunhumpers Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #4
They want all POC and all liberals dead or gone, they dont care which Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #2
Really looks that way. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #7
Yep, he and FUX SPEWZ are demonizing Democrats, making the word itself an insult. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2020 #9
Gardner brought a gun to that protest Drahthaardogs Jun 2020 #3
He may have been "protecting" his bars. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #8
I still love Bron BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #5
Me too renate Jun 2020 #10
The DA just let walk too. Investigation lasted 48 hrs Drahthaardogs Jun 2020 #6
Geez. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #12
Should be a nice a relaxed time in his two bars over the next several months greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #15
Hope we get through these interesting times. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #22
with video of it, that might be all it took. Amishman Jun 2020 #17
This won't go over well renate Jun 2020 #11
Guy on my block who voted Drumpf say they now regret it. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #14
Did he send Don Jr. a picture posing with his harvest? Don Jr. loves that shit. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #13
Big Game Hunters are strange that way. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #20
when you come armed and looking for trouble, it finds you. maxsolomon Jun 2020 #16
And that is precisely the trouble with guns. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #19
Douglas Co Atty Don Kleine conclusion: Self Defense SharonClark Jun 2020 #18
Thank you for the details. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #21
And guess what: NO charges sandensea Jun 2020 #23
Both of those are un-American but it was self-defense rockfordfile Jun 2020 #24

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
9. Yep, he and FUX SPEWZ are demonizing Democrats, making the word itself an insult.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jun 2020

And he’s openly, repeatedly asking and encouraging his followers to gang up against Democrats. Any Democrat will do, to them. They’ll go out driving and drinking on some starry Saturday night, looking for someone to beat up.

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
8. He may have been "protecting" his bars.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:06 PM
Jun 2020

What he may not understand, like so many capitalists: things can be replaced, while people can’t.

BannonsLiver

(16,371 posts)
5. I still love Bron
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jun 2020

You know why? Because dogs don’t know anything about our politics, you dumb fuck. (Jake Gardner, not the OP)

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
12. Geez.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jun 2020

From Heavy.com:

Kleine said after reviewing video it was determined Gardner was justified in shooting Scurlock. The county attorney said Scurlock had caused damage to the building housing Gardner’s bar before he was shot. Kleine said, “There was damage to property and Mr. Scurlock was killed.” He also said Scurlock had Gardner in a chokehold during a scuffle. He said social media rumors that Gardner had used a racial slur were deemed to be untrue. Kleine added, “I hope that this great community that we live in can get through this without disruption. This is the decision that we’ve made.”

Source: https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/jake-gardner-5-fast-facts/

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
15. Should be a nice a relaxed time in his two bars over the next several months
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jun 2020

Just kick your feet up and chill out. Everything should be fine.

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
22. Hope we get through these interesting times.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jun 2020

The Constitution will survive, provided the President and his coterie uphold it.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
17. with video of it, that might be all it took.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jun 2020

as I said in the other discussion on this, that video should be released. If this was a legitimate defensive shooting, it should be known. If the DA is playing games, we should know so protests can be targeted and pressure applied.

renate

(13,776 posts)
11. This won't go over well
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jun 2020

Like the investigation into Senator Loeffler being dropped after her husband made a $1M donation to Trump.

So much corruption but I think people are starting to get really fed up with it.

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
14. Guy on my block who voted Drumpf say they now regret it.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jun 2020

In suburb next to Detroit, guy said he and kids, “Won’t get fooled again.”

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
20. Big Game Hunters are strange that way.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jun 2020

If I were king of the planet, I’d have a gun exchange. All those bringing in a weapon would receive a camera. Lots of guns? Give ‘em a bunch of lenses, too.

A picture lasts longer. And, like some fishermen, throwing the catch back in the wild gives someone else a chance, plus it is good for the species.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
16. when you come armed and looking for trouble, it finds you.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jun 2020

armed, confronting protestors, protecting his precious property, and a scuffle breaks out. of course he goes to the gun. couldn't use his fists. he brought a gun looking for an excuse to use it.

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
19. And that is precisely the trouble with guns.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jun 2020

The fact the bar owner possesses one made it a lot likelier to be used.

My grandfather, a veteran of World War 2, did not own a firearm of any kind. He said he wouldn’t want one around because he knew he would one day get so mad at some so-and-so or another that he’d use it.

He was a college professor, a big brother to four women.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
18. Douglas Co Atty Don Kleine conclusion: Self Defense
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/live-city-officials-hold-briefing-as-city-county-offices-shut-down

"Kleine showing video that shows the bar owner being tackled, regaining footing and then being tackled again. That's when bar owner fired, killing Scurlock."

"Kleine says the shooter was tackled and he fired two shots before those people get off of him and Scurlock jumped on the shooter and he was shot once in the clavicle. This is Gatsby surveillance.@3NewsNowOmaha"

"Kleine says you can't shoot someone who is stealing a bike or a 12pk of beer from a gas station. Deadly force can be used if someone is in fear for their life and they can't retreat safely."

"Kleine: the law says even if they're mistaken but if the basis is reasonable to believe safety is at risk you can use deadly force."

"Kleine: we're talking about a civilian who is backing up, told people to get out of there, then is jumped by two people, and then choked by a 3rd (Scurlock).@3NewsNowOmaha"

"Kleine: There was a consensus that the actions of the bar owner, the shooter, were justified.@3NewsNowOmaha"

Kid Berwyn

(14,901 posts)
21. Thank you for the details.
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jun 2020

I’d be in fear for my life if assaulted like that, too. No reason for violence, apart from defending oneself or others endangered by criminals.

About 35 years ago, I caught someone inside my car, a Fiero GT. At first, I thought it was a child playing race driver. When I got closer, I saw he had ripped the top of the steering column off and was hot-wiring the car. He saw me and jumped out. I was about to clobber him with my briefcase, but I saw it was a kid of about 14. I was stunned, stared in disbelief, and just let him run by. He then jumped into a huge car that had pulled up behind me. He jumped into an open door in the back and drove off. Two guys were in front.

I don’t think I’d be here today if I’d knocked him down. If I had and survived, I’d be angry for hitting a child.

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
23. And guess what: NO charges
Mon Jun 1, 2020, 07:46 PM
Jun 2020

The GOPee has decided to go full terrorist, and openly encourage political murder.

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