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Solomon

(12,319 posts)
3. Exactly.
Reply to 5X (Reply #1)
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

And why would the left wing intentionally attack minority businesses and organizations?

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
6. Yep. Right-wing boogaloo bois.
Reply to 5X (Reply #1)
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:57 PM
May 2020

Proud Boys, neo-nazis, klanheads. Especially including the ones with badges.

kimbutgar

(21,206 posts)
2. My sister in law who is married to a MF45 supporter told her it is Antifa who are doing the rioting
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

Antifa is code for “ fake news”, “hoax” bs.

This old woman is coming out now and saying “ I AM A PROUD ANTIFA” !

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
4. Besides outside influences stirring shit up
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:52 PM
May 2020

To try to discredit protests, protests also attract all kinds of people with their own grievances that may have nothing to do with the reason for the protest. You have to stop assuming everyone is acting through the lens of your own motivations. Some people are just pissed and want to rage against the machine. Do I think that's OK or justified? No i don't but i don't have to approve to recognize there are a LOT of people with legitimate grievances and when they see continuing injustice on whatever their issue is with no redress through official channels then some of them are going to take matters into their own hands.
It's objective observation of cause and effect with knowledge of human nature.

JI7

(89,275 posts)
5. There are so called leftists that preferred Trump to Hillary
Sun May 31, 2020, 06:56 PM
May 2020

and still do. They say the problems of today are the fault of Clintons Obama Pelosi etc.

They are often hostile to diversity.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
8. Closer to anarchists
Sun May 31, 2020, 07:02 PM
May 2020

They fit in well with Charles Manson's political philosophy.

They are not allies.

And of course there is a lot of right wingers who are sowing chaos as well (including some of the cops).

FirstLight

(13,364 posts)
9. "Anti-fa" is not real...it is what the racist MFer use to dogwhistle eachother
Sun May 31, 2020, 07:02 PM
May 2020

then they go and do this shit to foment violence and destruction and blame it on the lefty protestore...classic move for creating a faction where there really is none. Then they have something to "attack" because supposedly the leftists started shot and they are gonna finish it...

fucking bastards

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
11. I think the protests are legit--
Sun May 31, 2020, 08:14 PM
May 2020

and there's often looting, which to my mind is no huge deal. Ugly and difficult, but not a big deal.

Much of the vandalism, it seems likely, is being deliberately done by MAGAt types. They want to make it seem like this is a riot. There are videos of protesters begging the white-male vandals to stop, and the question is, who are those guys.

Plus the man who drove up in an SUV and fired into a crowd of protesters, killing one? That sounds a lot like Charlottesville.

mathematic

(1,440 posts)
14. Because the sooner everything fails the sooner their preferred social order can take over
Sun May 31, 2020, 09:16 PM
May 2020

This tactic is as old as time. Some people think that burning it all down and then fighting for the remains is the only way to escape our current system.

This is the thought behind, "Politician X will be so bad that the whole country will wake up and start to agree with my proposed radical solutions." You may recall Susan Sarandon expressing ideas like this back in '16. People that say both parties are the same or that there's not a dime's worth of distance between the two major party candidates, or that talk about revolution all the time are exactly the type of people that see riots as an effective method of social change.

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