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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCity officials begging everyone to go home and shut up
so things can get back to normal.
The very reason for these demonstrations is BECAUSE OF THAT NORMAL!!
You know what? Nothing is going to change if everyone shuts up and goes quiet. Nothing!
Its an unfortunate fact, but there it is.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)If white supremacists and other malign characters are the ones setting fires and trashing businesses and they are the only ones out in the streets, they can be identified and arrested.
dware
(12,429 posts)still_one
(92,394 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)that during the day the demonstrators are peaceful, and at night the mobs move in to destroy and loot.
I say arrest everyone who is being violent.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)aren't given cover by hiding among the peaceful demonstrators.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It seems to be a lose lose strategy. Just give up your righteous cause. That will work right?
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Violence. But if all the peaceful demonstrators go home do you think the instigators are going to hang around to be caught?
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)Which strikes me as some benefit to the people living there.
dware
(12,429 posts)They're that stupid.
Solomon
(12,319 posts)and remain uncaught, but i think they very well may be that stupid
dware
(12,429 posts)and why not? The CIC (Criminal in Chief) is their role model and we all know what kind of person he is, stupid and arrogant.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)and wrecking your city isn't giving up a righteous cause, but helping it.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)will change anything?
The demonstrators are on the horns of a dilemma. No matter what they do it seems nothing will change.
dware
(12,429 posts)they're being asked to stay home for now so that the officials can find out who these assholes are.
Why you fail to see this is beyond me.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)so they dont get arrested?
Their modus operandi is to hide and mingle so they arent caught.
dware
(12,429 posts)just like their role model, you know, the CIC (Criminal in Chief.)
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)in order to make it possible to learn who the outside agitators are and break up their networks will be more effective in the long run than continuing to demonstrate while bad guys infiltrate their ranks and behave violently with the result that the peaceful demonstrators will get blamed for it.
dware
(12,429 posts)Things will never be back to normal, the murder of George Floyd, I believe, is the tipping point on police brutality against POC.
And nobody is giving up their righteous cause, it's designed to catch the assholes who are doing the violence so that the peaceful protesters can take up their righteous cause in relative peace.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I think not, more like realist.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)There will be more tomorrow.
All our main officials are Dems who are just as outraged at the George Floyd murder as our community members. They are all acknowledging the longstanding problem of systemic racism and promising to pursue justice and rebuilding the affected communities.
No one is being asked to "give up your righteous cause." They are being asked to help the fight against the outside agitators by voluntarily observing the curfew.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)They arent the ones starting fires or looting. They dont need to be asked to go home because theyre already doing it.
dware
(12,429 posts)That the city officials asked them to go home tonight so they can get a handle on the agitators?
Really????????????
lunatica
(53,410 posts)then nothing changes does it?
Im talking about the bad guys winning yet again, by pretending theyre part of the social change movement to fight racism.
Do you disagree with that?
dware
(12,429 posts)It's for one night as far as I can tell.
Maybe you need to calm down and let things play out.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Pointing out the dilemma that people of good will are forced to experience isnt that hard to understand. Maybe you need to pay more attention to history.
dware
(12,429 posts)But whatever.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)of social change coming about all by itself after the people all go home quietly.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)hide among the legitimate demonstrators and move through the city.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Which was an open invitation to destroy as much as the rioters wanted.
If the good guys go home tonight why would the bad guys stay? Their entire strategy is to become invisible by mingling with the peaceful marchers. They would go home too.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Have it at.
Bye.
dware
(12,429 posts)that's why they want everyone off the streets so they can identify and arrest these assholes.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The rabble rousers arent going to respect anything.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)+1