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Crime cartels and anarchists. Walz spoke at about 2:30am ET with the Mayor . He said that some of the arsons were strategic and professionally set and that various groups were burning and looting for their own agenda. Seeing tons of videos on Twitter of white guys dressed in black destroying and smashing.
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)It would be useful to have a link to the Governor's statements. That this is a fact is obvious, and it is good official attention is being paid to it.
catbyte
(34,450 posts)pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)58Sunliner
(4,398 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)They are reporting that the governor admitted he's heard reports this could be the case. He said the reports are unconfirmed, but he has heard the claims.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)but they are unconfirmed at this point.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the intelligence turns out to be accurate, but we just don't know at this point.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Yeah, Im seeing tons of video of white guys attacking CNN and the College Football Hall of Fame in Atlanta. Setting fire to the post office sounds like rw anti- government shit. Hope he gets confirmation.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)Last edited Sat May 30, 2020, 10:43 AM - Edit history (1)
Sounds like Black Bloc anarchists. They're well known for infiltrating peaceful protests and doing this kind of shit.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)I know they showed up in Ferguson destroying cop cars and at the G-20.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Joy Reid, IIRC. She said she was in Ferguson when infiltrators starting using the propests for nefarious means.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,431 posts)"Last night is a mockery of pretending this is about George Floyd's death or inequities or traumas to our communities of color. Let's be very clear. The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd. It's about attacking civil society."
He also said that domestic terrorists and extremists are involved. He used the words domestic terrorists.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)blaze
(6,373 posts)I'm liking this press conference.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)He said they have intelligence and suspicions but he also noted, early in his presentation, that there was a core of protesters who were well-directed, deliberate and organized in their destructive efforts.
The early video I watched from Minneapolis showed "kids"....college age students, marching and walking as if it was not only a peaceful, near spontaneous demonstrations but also something resembling a "date night"... Those folks had nothing resembling destruction on their minds...they were there for something they believed in..
I also saw the video of the "umbrella guy".....there is no doubt in my mind that white supremicists groups are fomenting violence...trying to discredit the legit protestors..
Walleye
(31,046 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)with Homeland Security.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,431 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)I have no doubt they're stirring shit in Atlanta, Detroit, Oakland, and everywhere else.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Auggie
(31,187 posts)Harker
(14,034 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)ewagner
(18,964 posts)Kaiserguy
(740 posts)Be careful out there and watch your back don't make it easy for them.
AllaN01Bear
(18,387 posts)Takket
(21,625 posts)He said they only arrested of handful of persons how were antagonizing last night and ALL of them were from outside the state.....
talk about your "crisis actors".
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No mention that our own intelligence services say Russia has been specifically planning chaos around our elections. Of course.
No mention that St. Paul's black mayor said that "people in the movement" are reporting that organized, outside agitators are breaking windows, throwing incendiary devices, and otherwise inciting violence, then moving back into crowds and using them as shields for the mass destruction in black neighborhoods that follows. The inciters are being reported seen moving from location to location.
And no mention that current estimates are that a majority of the rioters are NOT from the community or protesting the murder of George Floyd.
This is above all our own RW powers desperate to keep power. But those have developed corrupt, treasonous relationships with foreign hostiles to protect their very big common interests. And take down their common enemy.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Ah! Far left, NOT RW. Got it. Who are those commentators pushing the RT line? The usual suspects?
ancianita
(36,133 posts)It's our media's 'tell' that they fall for such simplistic propaganda.
That's why Antifa only comes out when fascists show go loud and public. The rest of the time, they melt back into the community.
Antifa are everywhere. Their history is long, and Germany wouldn't be what it is today without them.
But they are a defensive force, not ever provocateures.
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)Watching the other night, I thought, "I don't think all those young, white people are there for good reasons."
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)Amishman
(5,559 posts)Everything has been happening in or near impoverished minority neighborhoods. Rightwing nutjobs fled years ago.
If this spreads further it's going to run into some of the millions of armed bigots who'd love to shoot their guns empty into a crowd of rioters and call it self defense.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Last edited Sat May 30, 2020, 01:16 PM - Edit history (1)
He's using an old playbook to demonize freedom fighters against the white supremacists who back racial capitalism.
It's explained by Harvard historian, Walter Johnson. This MN governor, hell, all governors, had better read him.
The Broken Heart of America: St. Louis and the Violent History of the United States. Basic Books. 2020. (This is his latest, reviewed in The New Yorker.)
"State of the Field: Slavery" (2004), Organization of American Historians
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)As did Keith Ellison.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)Fla Dem
(23,742 posts)I listened to the Gov's press conference this morning. I am not surprised one bit that there is a significant number of infiltrators/agitators doing a lot of the damage in Minneapolis. They have everything to gain in burning down the infrastructure of Black communities, causing mayhem and smearing the Black community as unlawful, crazy rioters. Whether it's the KKK, Nazis or other White supremacy groups, they're reveling in the destruction they are doing to the Black communities in Minneapolis and other cities under the guise of protesting the death of George Floyd and the dicriminating actions of too many in law enforcement.
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)residents of the neighborhood.
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)They love to turn peaceful protests into violent riots. When the Iraq invasion was being protested in Berkeley theh seemed to have a taste for breaking the bookstore windows.
ancianita
(36,133 posts)exist to remind racial capitalism that its property is not more important than humans.
usaf-vet
(6,207 posts)White supremacists and other RW provocateurs being "encouraged" (certainly not discouraged) by the racist in chief living in the WH.
I would bet that there has been a game plan waiting on the shelf to implement the moment they had a white vs black shooting.
POTUS wants and needs a distraction to get the press away from reporting Covid-19 deaths, millions filing unemployment claims, his current falling polling numbers, and his losing international issues with China and W.H.O.
And here is further evidence of an organized plan in play.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213507588
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)We have been talking among ourselves here in Iowa, that something like this would happen...that the far far edges would try and derail the election anyway they could!!