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DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:59 AM May 2020

Trump used vets as hydroxychloroquine guinea pigs

This is the biggest Trump scandal of them all in my opinion. Trump ignored FDA guidelines and ordered hydroxychloroquine to be used as a treatment for ailing vets. This resulted in an alarming death toll and along with other studies has discredited this as a legit treatment. Trump literally killed Veterans and used them as lab rats. Biden, Democrats, Lincoln Project, Trump needs to be slammed and slammed hard for this. This warrants resignation. This is just evil.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8337723/amp/Donald-Trump-claims-veterans-study-hydroxy-kill-READY-DIE.html

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Trump used vets as hydroxychloroquine guinea pigs (Original Post) DIVINEprividence May 2020 OP
The Mengele approach to pandemic management Thomas Hurt May 2020 #1
I've been telling Trumpers that for a couple weeks. gibraltar72 May 2020 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #3
Love those Vets, yes, Sir! Another lie by the Commander in Chief. Frustratedlady May 2020 #4
So what Hitler factor are we at now? tia uponit7771 May 2020 #5
Also in prisons as well . . Iliyah May 2020 #6
Of course he did. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #7
Vets I know hate trump. pwb May 2020 #8
Me too...no hashtag required...nt Wounded Bear May 2020 #10
Trump who ridiculed the military service of all POWs keithbvadu2 May 2020 #9
I hate Trump. He is the biggest piece of shit imaginable, but... LudwigPastorius May 2020 #11
No evidence YET that he did but if we can investigate bluecollar2 May 2020 #13
If it is at all true that doctors were being... LudwigPastorius May 2020 #16
Here's a different source that seems to care more about presenting facts groundloop May 2020 #22
I remember weeks ago that they were experimenting with it at a Detroit area hospital yaesu May 2020 #12
They already got got bad results a nonth or two ago. This would be the first time I ... marble falls May 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius May 2020 #15
i don't doubt it but did you see any other refs to this other than the daily mail? certainot May 2020 #17
The cited article doesn't even say what the... LudwigPastorius May 2020 #18
ta - i didn't want to turn off my cookies for the daily mail certainot May 2020 #19
The article didn't say Trump used vets PatSeg May 2020 #25
dems need to watch out taking bait, RW have a massive media advantage certainot May 2020 #26
Where in the article does it say that Trump ordered it used on vets? Native May 2020 #20
Really so he hasten their deaths. How many more will Trump Kill today? Historic NY May 2020 #21
He needs to be asked about this! Johnny2X2X May 2020 #23
And later on TV he said the VA results weren't valid cuz the medicine was given to the old/dying. iluvtennis May 2020 #24

gibraltar72

(7,508 posts)
2. I've been telling Trumpers that for a couple weeks.
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:10 AM
May 2020

Every time they link him and the love for the military. I use a variation on that, Lab mice, lab rats. Human guinea pigs.

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Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. Love those Vets, yes, Sir! Another lie by the Commander in Chief.
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:18 AM
May 2020

Just that many more who won't be using up benefits. Add that to the Social Security/Medicare recipients who are also vulnerable and dying and you're building up a pile of money.

WTG, Orange Marvel.

keithbvadu2

(36,865 posts)
9. Trump who ridiculed the military service of all POWs
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:21 AM
May 2020

Trump who ridiculed the military service of all POWs

"I like people who were not captured."

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
11. I hate Trump. He is the biggest piece of shit imaginable, but...
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:28 AM
May 2020

there is no evidence that he ordered VA doctors to use hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for ailing vets.

He DID order the FDA to relax the guidelines, allowing doctors to prescribe it for off-label usage, AND he promoted its use in press conferences, but that's not what you are asserting.

The truth matters. Let's not be like they are.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
13. No evidence YET that he did but if we can investigate
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:52 AM
May 2020

Benghazi, Whitewater, and if McConnel wants to look at Obama then I see no reason why we cant ask the good folks o er at V.A. for their input....

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
16. If it is at all true that doctors were being...
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

forced to break their medical oaths (presumably, in order to keep their jobs) then I would think that at least one of them would tell a reporter about it, even if only anonymously.

If a Congressperson or reporter wants to ring up some of the VA doctors who prescribed this drug and ask them if they were pressured, more power to them.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
12. I remember weeks ago that they were experimenting with it at a Detroit area hospital
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:35 AM
May 2020

haven't herd anything more since.

marble falls

(57,144 posts)
14. They already got got bad results a nonth or two ago. This would be the first time I ...
Sat May 23, 2020, 11:58 AM
May 2020

would refuse a treatment.

My VA doctor called me two days ago to let me know my last CAT scan came back clear of cancer!

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certainot

(9,090 posts)
19. ta - i didn't want to turn off my cookies for the daily mail
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:10 PM
May 2020

like i said, i don't doubt it but dems need to make sure not to get trapped

PatSeg

(47,556 posts)
25. The article didn't say Trump used vets
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:54 PM
May 2020

for a study, just that he cited the information we already knew about the use of Hydroxychloroquine on vets. There was nothing in the article that we haven't heard in the news the last few days, that Trump said the ones who died were already old and very sick.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
21. Really so he hasten their deaths. How many more will Trump Kill today?
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:20 PM
May 2020

What was the success rate of recovery?

iluvtennis

(19,867 posts)
24. And later on TV he said the VA results weren't valid cuz the medicine was given to the old/dying.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:50 PM
May 2020

I DESPISE trump

Hurry up Nov 2020.

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