I don't believe we are getting the real numbers coming from Florida.

[captain queeg]

776 new cases, 45 new deaths yesterday. Doesn’t sound close to right given their population, especially of old people. I hope there’s some organization monitoring the official numbers. The governor has made it clear they’ll cook the books. Other states as well no doubt.

[lark]

1. The numbers showed 49,000 one day, the next showed an increase of 1000 and new #47,000.

Rounding of course, but at least 2-3 people were removed from the tally overnight. Fucking mini-me.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. They do reduce the numbers.

They have done it twice in Seminole County.

[freepotter]

21. Appears that CDC and States don't have a clue

From The Atlantic: ‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjyoK3JpcrpAhVLVK0KHVXpBisQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F100213466121&usg=AOvVaw0OOgogc5rKHa5JydvGPvQE

[Baitball Blogger]

23. I saw that article. It's an important one because it helped us start asking the right questions in

our states.

[uponit7771]

2. K&R, especially after hearing about a person who got fired for not cooking the books on CV19.

[Baitball Blogger]

10. +1

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. I thought it was official FL policy to not include long term care facility cases & deaths. . . . nt

[yardwork]

7. Unless they deliberately underreport deaths, if there is a spike in the numbers it will show.

However, it appears that FL may be deliberately suppressing data.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Not including long term care facilities surely seems like under counting to me. . . . . nt

[yardwork]

4. My former mother in law died this spring in a FL nursing home.

She had a bad cough and fever. They refused to test her. Her cause of death is not listed as COVID. Nobody will ever know.

[dem4decades]

5. Couldn't the family pay for the test themselves? Not that they should have to but

It would answer questions and put the state on notice.

[yardwork]

6. They tried and were refused. This was more than a month ago.

Testing wasn't readily available, but still. It seemed deliberate, as if the state was discouraging facilities from testing sick people.

[mitch96]

12. If they kept any blood tests I guess they could test for the virus... nt

[jimfields33]

8. I don't believe any state is accurate.

[mitch96]

13. The Gov takes his marching orders from the prez.. don't count low numbersbase happy..... nt

[Ford_Prefect]

18. Well to be accurate he's taking them from Moscow Mitch. Trump is Mitch and Putin's mouthpiece.

[mitch96]

20. Either or and he's not doing it with out orders from "up top". To me they are all the same shit. nt

[mucifer]

14. I'm a hospice nurse in Chicagoland. Our agency is having us test patients

We just got an inservice.

Illinois takes this situation and testing serious. My agency says we won't test most patients. But, we will have the capability to do testing for certain situations if need be.

Check out this list of Illinois testing sites. There are hundreds of them now:

https://coronavirus.illinois.gov/s/testing-sites

[Mariana]

15. My parents' county has done very few tests.

That's the easy way to keep the numbers down. My parents know people who've had symptoms and couldn't get a test. They're pretty sure one of their friends died of it.

[live love laugh]

16. CDC also has "provisional" death counts. More like revisional. nt

[bucolic_frolic]

17. I'm beginning to think Florida never gave real numbers

The 1920s real estate boom was most overblown in Florida. Leverage, leverage, leverage. As property values went up and up no one seemed to realize a crash was imminent.

[paleotn]

19. Watch the hospitals

The true barometer of infection. You can't spin people crashing and ending up in ICU.

[Vodid]

22. The Percentages don't make sense...

In terms of the numbers of deaths in relation to the confirmed cases, the deviation between states is too large to be believable. Any state claiming less than 4% deaths for their confirmed cases should be highly suspect (this is just a "seat-of-the-pants" round number from a non-statistician that's looking at the data).

Specifically, that would be Texas, Florida, Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Kansas, Utah, Arkansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Idaho.

Tennessee, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Utah, Arkansas, South Dakota & North Dakota are particularly non-believable. Look for yourself. As an example; Minnesota has slightly fewer confirmed cases than Tennessee, but Tennessee claims just 315 deaths, while Minnesota has 850 (and Minnesota is toward the low end of what I consider "believability"...Tennessee is flat-out unbelievable).

Some states don't have enough confirmed cases yet—enough data to judge. And some may just be "too early" in the infection curve for the deaths to have occurred in the numbers that they'll eventually be.

Bottom line; the numbers don't make sense. Britain, France, Spain, & Italy all have better public health care than we do here in America, and all their current numbers of deaths to confirmed cases is well over 10%. Granted, they are ahead of us on the "infection curve", so maybe that partially explains it.

Again, I encourage y'all to take a look at the numbers for yourself.