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trump just said st WH if governors don't allow churches to re open this weekend.
demmiblue
(36,875 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,300 posts)His latest spokes-Barbie, Kayleigh McInanity, said "We don't do hypotheticals."
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)EndlessWire
(6,562 posts)It would be part of his emergency powers. He already declared an emergency over the Trump Wall. When did that emergency go away? It did not. Still there.
But, if he wants, he can declare another emergency. There is no one to stop him.
blm
(113,083 posts)They cant make a mortgage payment on their McMansion?
They cant get their mistresses the boob jobs they promised?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)Using a claim of emergency powers to promote religion is unlikely to survive a challenge under the First Amendment.
Retrograde
(10,152 posts)Dontcha know, when red states decide to allow open carry of automatic weapons and place insurmountable barriers on abortion providers, that's what states' rights are for. When blue states want to make voting easier or try to keep their residents alive, well - that's a matter for the feds to quash.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Fuck him
global1
(25,266 posts)he's taking advantage of them to get their votes. All he's focused on is re-election. Doesn't care who gets hurt in the process.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)... he's just cutting the throats of his own voting block.
Responsible churches, that care about the health of the community and their parishioners, will remain closed until health professionals advise otherwise.
monmouth4
(9,709 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)There are plenty of churches, run by charlatans and grifters who are champing at the bit to open their doors and start the collection plate going again.
Responsible churches are looking at what their parishioners can do to help others during the pandemic. Disreputable churches are the ones whinging about how they are affected by these public health responses.
monmouth4
(9,709 posts)in times like these.The charlatans and grifters are having a field day, let them be, their answers will come soon enough.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)If they were the only ones to feel the consequences of their actions, then I'd be fine with just wishing a pox on their houses, literally. But their actions have an impact on the health professionals that will have to treat them, and the other people that they will inevitability infect.
We need to try to limit their bad behavior, for everyone's sake, but I refuse to have pity for fools who are suffering for the consequences of their bad decisions that they are fighting so hard to make in the face of all sane advice.
global1
(25,266 posts)As many of you heard, Cardinal Cupich shared the exciting news with all of us on Wednesday evening that we may begin our first step in reopening the doors of the Cathedral. I know this is not going to bring us back to our pre-Stay-at-Home days, but it is a positive step in reopening.
We will begin implementing the guidance from the Archdiocese, starting with sacramental events like weddings, baptisms, and funerals all limited to groups of 10 or less. We will also begin offering the sacrament of reconciliation. These sacraments are all considered to be Phase I.
Following this, in Phase IA, we will also begin opening the Cathedral for private prayer, limited to 10 people or less. Both parts of Phase I & IA will require new procedures to ensure the safety of all who come into the Cathedral. In anticipation of this, our Reopening Task Force has been working on pre-opening preparations, hopefully, to begin Phase I by the end of the month.
To finalize specific dates for these initial steps, we are required to be certified by the Archdiocese, including new training for staff and volunteer ministers. All of this will begin today. We will keep you updated on the timelines for the various parts of Phase I. Given the size of our Faith Community, we know this will be a challenge to stay limited to small groups, but we are committed to keeping you safe and fully informed on our plans and new procedures.
Thank you in advance for your patience and prayers as we work to bring us back together again.
BrightKnight
(3,567 posts)HOUSTON A Catholic church in Houston has closed its doors after five of its leaders tested positive for COVID-19, including two priests who had helped celebrate public masses which had resumed earlier this month.
The closure and positive tests come after a priest from Holy Ghost parish, 79-year-old Donnell Kirchner, died last week. He was diagnosed with pneumonia, but health officials are determining whether he might have contracted the virus before he died May 13.
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The Catholic Church has demonstrated responsible Christian leadership up until this. Corporate worship is more essential to them but I still have no idea what they were thinking. IDK, Sometimes Churches pander to the local political climate.
It has been a long time and I can understand the need to responsibly do the phase 1 things.
My Church is delivering the sacrament to people at home without contact and conducting the Eucharist via Zoom. It is not perfect but Jesus does not spread disease.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)Other churches, more blue, are still going to be closed and so fewer of them will die.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6920e2.htm?s_cid=mm6920e2_w
35 of the 92 people (38%) who attended services at a rural Arkansas church March 611 tested positive for the coronavirus, ultimately killing three, according to a case study released Tuesday by the CDC.
Sid
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)of RI was in the midst of her daily TV briefing announcing that all houses of worship should not open until at least May 30. She's not about to be bullied or overridden by an incompetent president. Small, but mighty, she is!
dalton99a
(81,569 posts)Because state governors report to the president
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Now, how much $ does he shill out for on this?
So that amount/how many more die due to this action = way too low a number?
Just another extremely bad one by the walking dick move, but consequences, that's paid by others?
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I dont think the right wing has thought this through
keithbvadu2
(36,886 posts)Madison also made a point that any believer of any religion should understand: that the government sanction of a religion was, in essence, a threat to religion. "Who does not see," he wrote, "that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" Madison was writing from his memory of Baptist ministers being arrested in his native Virginia.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Lovely post. Thank you!
Liberal In Texas
(13,570 posts)He really is desperate to get his lemmings fired up.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Jam packed churches and sports stadiums are needed by his lardship ASAP.
lame54
(35,317 posts)bdamomma
(63,919 posts)dead for him yet.
avebury
(10,952 posts)It is called cleaning out the gene pool. Just avoid them at all cost.
If people are going to die from the virus let it be his supporters.
dreamland
(964 posts)Religious right wing fanactics vs. scientific thinkers and planners.
dlk
(11,575 posts)He really doesnt think anything through.
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struggle4progress
(118,332 posts)It's an older and educated congregation, with lots of retired doctors and nurses and public health folk
SCantiGOP
(13,873 posts)with Trumps order just as soon as he gets the memo from the Pope that Trump has been appointed Bishop of his diocese.