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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Mon May 18, 2020, 01:16 PM May 2020

The vaccine propaganda campaign, fairy tale, bullshit, will be told everyday until the election.

When it come to creating a vaccine, there is this thing called history. It takes years just to properly test a vaccine. There are no shortcuts, period. If you take shortcuts there is no way to know if it's safe.

If you believe there will be safe vaccine by the end of the year, go ahead and take it. I will watch and you can let me know how things turn out.

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The vaccine propaganda campaign, fairy tale, bullshit, will be told everyday until the election. (Original Post) shockey80 May 2020 OP
There will not be a widely available vaccine until it is thoroughly tested. maxsolomon May 2020 #1
I should know this but don't matt819 May 2020 #2
No. Never. SoonerPride May 2020 #3
Just to clarify BannonsLiver May 2020 #4
Can't speak for the OP matt819 May 2020 #5
Yes, context is important. BannonsLiver May 2020 #6
K&R, the vaccine vs is the one thing keeping excuses flowing to stock market uponit7771 May 2020 #7
I view promises of cures and vaccines for viruses with a skeptical eye Politicub May 2020 #8

maxsolomon

(33,391 posts)
1. There will not be a widely available vaccine until it is thoroughly tested.
Mon May 18, 2020, 01:22 PM
May 2020

That function of the Federal Government is not gutted yet.

You are correct in that there will be fairy tale bullshit about a vaccine through the election, and probably the remainder of our lives.

"Libs are preventing the vaccine from getting approval to hurt Trump".
and simultaneously
"Libs want you to get vaccinated so Bill Gates can 5G George Soros blue-green algae in your contrails".

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
3. No. Never.
Mon May 18, 2020, 03:30 PM
May 2020

I have my doubts about them getting a successful vaccine.

I think the press likes to sell us false hopes.

BannonsLiver

(16,445 posts)
4. Just to clarify
Mon May 18, 2020, 04:09 PM
May 2020

Are you saying there shouldn’t be attempts to produce a vaccine, or are you proposing the media be barred from covering those attempts and the work on vaccine development be done in secret?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
5. Can't speak for the OP
Mon May 18, 2020, 05:23 PM
May 2020

My 2 cents.

I'm perfectly happy for the media to cover whatever they want to cover. Full Stop.

But let's at least demand that they be honest. We know, for example, that Fox and it's camp followers in the "news" biz cannot be counted on to report honestly. So as long as we can trust the reporting from other mainstream and science sources, keep the reporting coming.

The point with my post, and the answer I thought I would receive (and did), is that this reporting ought at least to make the observations that successes with previous novel coronaviruses have been nil to low. They should then explain why we might expect vaccine successes with this virus. And if that means a vaccine is not really going to be available and/or that it's not going to be a long-term solution, then report that, and then ask whether resources might be better allocated to treatment so that good outcomes (not dying) are brought to the same level as the "usual" seasonal flu.

I know, too much to ask.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
8. I view promises of cures and vaccines for viruses with a skeptical eye
Mon May 18, 2020, 06:26 PM
May 2020

There have been countless, breathless articles about finding promising HIV vaccines and cancer cures for most of my life. I used to get excited about the HIV articles about vaccines because a good friend contracted HIV before it became a manageable condition.

None of them panned out. They may lead to treatments or contribute to incremental progress, but most of the time pharma companies announce these “miracles” to get a stock bump or government funding.

I’ll believe it when there is a real vaccine available and not just vapor ware.

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