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Support for trump collapsing with older voters (Original Post) denem May 2020 OP
I HOPE they're not allowing themselves to be conned any longer. calimary May 2020 #1
Yes. Trump got older voters by only 9 POINTS nationally, Hortensis May 2020 #27
Be prepared for republicans to shut down voting in senior centers. mucifer May 2020 #2
Gee, Who Could Have Predicted That "DIE FOR MY RE-ELECTION" Isn't A Winning Message? smb May 2020 #3
+1 Phoenix61 May 2020 #15
we can only hope these people vote for Biden and democrats up and down the ballot beachbumbob May 2020 #4
Canceling their primaries was a smart idea after all underpants May 2020 #5
I wonder if they did have primaries...he'd still win but I bet turnout would be way down captain queeg May 2020 #12
Seems like some seniors don't like the continuous threats mercuryblues May 2020 #6
When your water aerobics pals start to keel over and die, you notice. Vinca May 2020 #7
That is very good news. brer cat May 2020 #8
Lucky for trump older voters don't turn up on election day. denem May 2020 #10
Guess you can't fool all of the people all of the time. n/t Mister Ed May 2020 #9
Could signal the return of sanity and triumph of wisdom bucolic_frolic May 2020 #11
Some don't like that he's killing us off. keithbvadu2 May 2020 #13
they have been trying to kill us off since Reagan nt yellowdogintexas May 2020 #18
We must all do our part. Sacrifices must be made. IronLionZion May 2020 #20
Die quickly has always been the GOP plan IronLionZion May 2020 #14
or they are struggling to get out from under the mountain yellowdogintexas May 2020 #19
Live long enough to spend all your money on "health care" Wounded Bear May 2020 #24
There's data on why older voters tilt conservative IronLionZion May 2020 #25
Good news. hurple May 2020 #16
Really? "Die, grandma! die!" isn't winning older voters? Who would have predicted that? struggle4progress May 2020 #17
Telling older Americans doctors are wrong, stupid, gets their attention. shockey80 May 2020 #21
Well, he is trying to kill us. zanana1 May 2020 #22
I guess they don't want to die for Trump Johnny2X2X May 2020 #23
So "Martyr yourself for the economy and my re-election" is NOT a winning message after all. Rainbow Droid May 2020 #26
Apparently some people don't like being told they should be killed for Wall Street Takket May 2020 #28
Stick a fork in him. nt oasis May 2020 #29
It is a hard choice to make.... not_the_one May 2020 #30
Yes I support that. SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #31
They got his message. He's okay turning them into casualties. Baitball Blogger May 2020 #32

calimary

(81,444 posts)
1. I HOPE they're not allowing themselves to be conned any longer.
Mon May 18, 2020, 07:33 AM
May 2020

The older demographics are the ones that most reliably actually get out there and vote.

I HOPE they’re coming around.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Yes. Trump got older voters by only 9 POINTS nationally,
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:19 AM
May 2020

relatively large in this era of razor thin majorities. But, as the data show, it's actually small enough that not all that many need to come around to turn 2016's large older-voter minority into a whole new majority.

underpants

(182,874 posts)
5. Canceling their primaries was a smart idea after all
Mon May 18, 2020, 07:50 AM
May 2020

He wouldn’t lose but by now he’d be taking some hard hits in several states

captain queeg

(10,240 posts)
12. I wonder if they did have primaries...he'd still win but I bet turnout would be way down
Mon May 18, 2020, 08:56 AM
May 2020

Many that wouldn’t actively oppose him would show their sustain by not showing up to vote

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
6. Seems like some seniors don't like the continuous threats
Mon May 18, 2020, 07:50 AM
May 2020

of taking away their main source of income so the wealthy can have their tax breaks. Or being a sacrificial lamb for trump's re-election.

bucolic_frolic

(43,266 posts)
11. Could signal the return of sanity and triumph of wisdom
Mon May 18, 2020, 08:34 AM
May 2020

Older folks supposed to have wisdom from a life well lived. They can be duped but the slow realization of truth emerges. They have the experience and internal balance and fortitude to admit they were in error, and to change direction. Sounds complicated but I think that's what's happening.

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
14. Die quickly has always been the GOP plan
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:07 AM
May 2020

for social security and medicare, and for the stock market, and other stuff. But mass death won't help the economy. People purchase less goods and services when their family and friends and neighbors are dying.

Wounded Bear

(58,703 posts)
24. Live long enough to spend all your money on "health care"
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:54 AM
May 2020

then die before you take too much out of Social Security.

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
25. There's data on why older voters tilt conservative
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:01 AM
May 2020

because lower income people die younger, often because of inability to pay for adequate health care so they put off getting treatment until it's too late.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
21. Telling older Americans doctors are wrong, stupid, gets their attention.
Mon May 18, 2020, 09:47 AM
May 2020

Older Americans listen to their doctors. What their doctors are telling them about the virus does not match what Trump is telling them. Trump will lose that game.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
26. So "Martyr yourself for the economy and my re-election" is NOT a winning message after all.
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:13 AM
May 2020

Who would have guessed.

Takket

(21,620 posts)
28. Apparently some people don't like being told they should be killed for Wall Street
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:23 AM
May 2020

What is odd is there is a large drop in support here but his approval number never budges.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
30. It is a hard choice to make....
Mon May 18, 2020, 10:32 AM
May 2020

Let's see (this is not MY personal experience, but), "my" lifetime investments have been going gangbusters, especially lately (other than the little virus "hickup" ), but nursing homes and assisted living facilities residents are dropping like flies, which doesn't really affect me because I live in an upscale retirement community (like those in Florida and Arizona) with ALL the amenities... I'm living the golden life, surrounded by like minded folk who value $$$ above all else...

Decisions, decisions.

I do hope they have rethought their approach to voting, but when the going gets tough and the tough get going (to the aforementioned retirements meccas), bottom line, money always talks loudest.

If those aforementioned retirement meccas become the new hot spots for the virus, THEN they may change who they support. The turd's incompetence in handling the pandemic may eventually outweigh the $$$ signs from wall street.

That may be happening, but sometimes it does take a 2 by 4 upside the head to get one's attention.

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