Trump instilled 'competitive' nature in kids by tripping them while they were skiing,

[smirkymonkey]

Ivanka Trump says."

Whether he's facing off against a global pandemic or his 10-year-old children, President Trump has always wanted to win.

Trump has turned coronavirus into a global competition over the past few weeks, particularly bragging about how much better the U.S. is supposedly doing than South Korea when it comes to COVID-19 testing. But about 25 years ago, Trump was more fond of racing his young children down ski hills and apparently trying to trip them in the process, they told New York Magazine in a December 2004 article.

The oldest Trump children have had a healthy dose of "sibling rivalry" in their lives since they were young, and it stems from their father, New York Magazine writes. "We were sort of bred to be competitive," Ivanka Trump said at the time. "Dad encourages it. I remember skiing with him and we were racing. I was ahead, and he reached his ski pole out and pulled me back." Eric Trump has a similar memory: "He would try to push me over, just so he could beat his 10-year-old son down the mountain," he said.

No matter how many times the Trump kids ended up face-down in the snow, they're all united behind their father today. Read more of their throwback thoughts at New York Magazine.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-instilled-competitive-nature-kids-160853221.html

[Solly Mack]

1. That's not instilling a competitive nature. That's teaching them to cheat.

[smirkymonkey]

3. Not only that, but it's abusive.

They could have been seriously injured or worse. What kind of father treats his children that way? Most fathers would allow their children to win and be happy for them.

The more you know about him, the worse it gets. He is just a horrible, evil, sick human being. It's a shame he wasn't aborted.

[Solly Mack]

5. So true.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

12. That whole family should have been aborted.

[misanthrope]

9. Well, isn't that what American capitalism is all about?

Win at any cost? Let the market reign?

[Solly Mack]

13. Funny you mention that. Currently having discussion

at home about just that point.

Sadly and to tragic consequence, yes. That is what people tend to mean by the "American Way".

I enjoy your point of view on issues but I can't have the same talk here. Not now. I'm raw with emotion at the moment.

[seleff]

27. #Cheatgate

Let’s go viral with it!

[Solly Mack]

29. Dysfunctional Family. Horribly dysfunctional family.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Maybe a touch of Stockholm Syndrome?

Nobody with a dad like that is ever going to be normal.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. Not to derail, but Stockholm Syndrome is not an actual syndrome and was invented by a cop

psychiatrist who was mad that a female hostage decided his hostage negotiation skills were garbage, which they were.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. Interesting. So maybe that's the wrong term for it, but it's true that

a lot of abused children are strangely devoted to an abusive parent. Probably hoping that someday he will love them. Donald Jr. seems rather transparently that way (and God knows what was going on with Ivanka and Daddy).

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. We're wired to love, and it's not difficult for manipulative parents to raise kids in a way that

that they elicit love even while inflicting abuse.

[Stainless]

20. Stockholm Syndrome is well known and documented (Google)

So what is your point?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

34. My point is that it's not an actual syndrome recognized by the DSM, that it's a concept

invented by a cop to explain away the botching of a hostage situation and discount the anger of one of the hostages, and that using the phrase both minimizes the dynamic between an abuser and the victim and discounts the experience and perspective of the victim, just as the original use of the phrase did.

[Laelth]

4. This does not shock me.

Persons with Cluster B personality disorders can’t stand to lose.

They’re emotional children, and they never get better. In fact, they get worse as they age.

-Laelth

[misanthrope]

11. Isn't it standard for untreated emotional and psychological disorders

to heighten with time? That's why treatment is so vital.

[Laelth]

18. That's the theory.

And it may be true for a vast array of psychological disorders and illnesses—just not the Cluster B disorders. They’re untreatable, as far as I can tell.

-Laelth

[Baked Potato]

6. Nobody "Dads" like Donald!

[dawg day]

7. I bet they don't let their own kids ski with Trump

He'd be kicked off ski slopes-- this is killing behavior.

[smirkymonkey]

14. I also heard he was furious that Ivana was a much better skiier than he was.

And felt humiliated that she showed him up on the slopes. He's such a pathetic egomaniac. I am sure he was a terrible skiier. I can just picture what he looked like on the slopes.

I tried to google for pics of him skiing and couldn't find any. Just pics of his head superimposed on olympic racers or him standing there with Marla or his family in ski gear, but not actually skiing. Not one.

I am sure he had them all purged so nobody could make fun of him.

[hatrack]

19. What I recall (Vanity Fair?) is that Ivanka was a seriously good skiier . . .

Apparently they were out in Vail or wherever, and she did a trick off of a ramp - a backflip or something like that.

Story was that he smashed his skis and left in a rage, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[dawg day]

21. Ivana was a competitive skier and instructor

I think if Ivanka's talented, it came from the XX side of the gene pool.

[hatrack]

23. In the case of Princess Grifty Sof-Tone (TM), I don't think it came from either side

She's skilled at . . . absolutely nothing.

[dawg day]

31. Now, now, it takes talent to speak only in that breathy monotone.

Phone sex-workers get paid for that!

[kskiska]

33. Ivana even made fun of Trump's skiing

and how he was humiliated when she left him in the dust the first time they hit the slopes. I guess he had to take it out on his kids.

[CatMor]

15. That is something an immature teenager would do ...

maybe his IQ is 45.

[nakocal]

17. When he goes to prison

They will also go to prison.

[Locrian]

22. obvious

I see this in a lot of high school kids I knew. Not the greatest people I should add... most majorly fuc*ed up.

Dad did the same thing - they grew up "respecting" the dad as the absolute authority figure (and it transfers over to trump).
See "daddy" is "never wrong". So it "must" be right to do that, and it cements in their mind that authoritarianism = love.

[smirkymonkey]

24. Explains a lot.

It must be why he has so many devoted supporters. This abusive, hateful, sick, con-man is just another daddy-figure to them and they will do anything for his love.

[regnaD kciN]

25. Fred Trump supposedly treated 45 pretty badly in his youth...

...and, as often happens, abused children turn into abusive parents (and abusive adults in general).

[smirkymonkey]

28. A lot of children were abused.

Not many of them grow up to be like Trump. I think he was born evil and his upbringing only made him worse. In fact, I don't think he was nearly as abused as many other children are.

Fred was tough and unloving, but I don't believe he was physically abusive and Trump never lacked for anything. He has no excuse for his behavior. I don't feel a bit sorry for him no matter how he was brought up.

[VOX]

26. Nothing beats the thrill of ill-gotten victory over your 10-year-old son.

Bet the farm that Trumpists applaud vigorously at this depressing example of “family values.”

[smirkymonkey]

30. Who pushes a 10-year old child off to the side as he is racing down a ski slope?

Eric could have run into a tree and hit his head, causing major damage or have even been fatal. I know people who have died that way. It is not uncommon. What kind of sick father does that to his own kid?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

36. A trump does that.

[mokawanis]

32. He's just a source of wealth to them

I imagine when Trump finally does the one right thing in his life and kicks the bucket his kids will be privately rejoicing (while they lawyer up and begin fighting over his estate).

[11 Bravo]

35. Well, that explains Eric. Repeatedly falling on one's head can be a problem down the road.