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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:39 PM May 2020

BREAKING : Judge Amy Berman Jackson just ordered the WH to turn over 20 emails RE : Ukraine




BREAKING: federal judge Amy Berman Jackson just ordered the White House to turn over 20 emails directly relating to President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold congressionally appropriated military aid from Ukraine.


Well this day is getting better.......

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BREAKING : Judge Amy Berman Jackson just ordered the WH to turn over 20 emails RE : Ukraine (Original Post) sunonmars May 2020 OP
Greatest page time malaise May 2020 #1
It's a knife fight now. Zoonart May 2020 #8
Yep - this is great news malaise May 2020 #9
So do I, Mal. Zoonart May 2020 #10
Me too! SheltieLover May 2020 #39
Who's the Jets and who's the Sharks? Roland99 May 2020 #12
Lawyers are always the sharks! n/t aggiesal May 2020 #42
Like the Montagues and Capulets, soldierant May 2020 #44
Good point! ananda May 2020 #49
What are the odds that the white house will comply? AJT May 2020 #2
Dunno, but defying a court order is a damned sight from defying a Congressional subpoena. nt coti May 2020 #7
This! PubliusEnigma May 2020 #15
Can they appeal this to stall? Marie Marie May 2020 #35
At this point I'll give you 2 to 1 AGAINST. At a minimum, they'll do everything they can to delay. Volaris May 2020 #26
probably about 1000 times better than yesterday. uncle ray May 2020 #33
K; R CatWoman May 2020 #3
'The Process' keeps grinding along in the right direction empedocles May 2020 #4
Which case?? leftieNanner May 2020 #5
NYT's FOIA case against the Office of Management and Budget. Brother Buzz May 2020 #46
K&R musette_sf May 2020 #6
Hah, can the Senate have a re-do on Conviction?!1 UTUSN May 2020 #11
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." YESSS! MFGsunny May 2020 #13
Or what? intrepidity May 2020 #14
Or guys with guns can show up and start hauling people off to jail. nt coti May 2020 #16
But the White House has guys with guns, too. Wednesdays May 2020 #28
Who are sworn to uphold the law. paleotn May 2020 #59
K&R spanone May 2020 #17
They will just refuse to do it Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #18
this is an image of the order...... Takket May 2020 #19
Nice. The order even allows for "social distancing" delivery. Beartracks May 2020 #21
Ukraine? I thought that was long over and done with. Frustratedlady May 2020 #20
Roger Stone Judge Orders White House to Turn Over Ukraine Emails Being Withheld from the Public Historic NY May 2020 #22
thank you!! Great link.. stillcool May 2020 #24
I'm certainly no lawyer but... Takket May 2020 #32
And tomorrow MF45 will appeal to SCOTUS. sinkingfeeling May 2020 #23
Obviously, Trump Will Appeal That. Just Like Every Other Lower Court Order DallasNE May 2020 #25
God, I hope her office isn't close to the fourth floor......! lastlib May 2020 #27
Hot damn! gademocrat7 May 2020 #29
Keep at it until election day sellitman May 2020 #30
K & R. nt iluvtennis May 2020 #31
Wow...judges stepping up Demsrule86 May 2020 #34
HE is getting it from all Directions.... yuiyoshida May 2020 #36
yes he is. at the worst possible time Roc2020 May 2020 #58
We have seen this dozens of times now a court orders Trump to do doc03 May 2020 #37
Would be better if she sent the U.S. Marshals to get it. LiberalFighter May 2020 #38
But - OhZone May 2020 #40
:) Jarqui May 2020 #45
+1 crickets May 2020 #55
Just Something Else He Will Ignore colsohlibgal May 2020 #41
.... ailsagirl May 2020 #43
And right on cue... DesertRat May 2020 #47
IIRC this is in DC and the GOP just appointed a ringer to that district's appellate court pecosbob May 2020 #48
All we pay those GD Republican Senators bucolic_frolic May 2020 #50
There needs to be some standard for performance instituted when we win back the senate. JudyM May 2020 #54
and that leads back to subpoenas, investigations, impeachment bucolic_frolic May 2020 #56
May this be the low point of all time for our democracy. Instead of lowering the bar. JudyM May 2020 #57
They'll ignore it, of course mcar May 2020 #51
"Make me." kentuck May 2020 #52
Kick for visibility Mike 03 May 2020 #53

Zoonart

(11,878 posts)
8. It's a knife fight now.
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:46 PM
May 2020

I think that the judiciary is pushing back against destruction of the rule of law and the corrosive shit from this criminal cabal in the Whitehouse.

soldierant

(6,914 posts)
44. Like the Montagues and Capulets,
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:17 AM
May 2020

the Jets and Sharks were not clearly one good, t'other evil. I perceive our situation as different in that way.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
26. At this point I'll give you 2 to 1 AGAINST. At a minimum, they'll do everything they can to delay.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:23 PM
May 2020

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
13. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." YESSS!
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:52 PM
May 2020

ANOTHER Jedi Judge!

Along with Judge Sullivan, today.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
20. Ukraine? I thought that was long over and done with.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:03 PM
May 2020

So hard to keep track of all his shenanigans. What could this possibly be about?

I remember Judge Jackson as a strict one and am bursting with excitement to see her surface again.

Takket

(21,620 posts)
32. I'm certainly no lawyer but...
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:41 PM
May 2020

If I read in this article what qualifies as executive privilege and this line in particular:

“whether a particular communication is both predecisional and deliberative”

It sounds like to be privilege the communication has to be the president and advisors discussing options to come to a decision.

So would it be correct to say if these emails are more directions/orders then discussions (e.g. the president wants to fuck Biden over do no money until the launch the bogus investigation) does that mean they cannot be called privileged? And Jackson can give them NYT?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
25. Obviously, Trump Will Appeal That. Just Like Every Other Lower Court Order
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:23 PM
May 2020

Trump is making a sham of the Judicial system by only accepting a court ruling if it is handed down by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court needs to start remanding it back to the lower court as there is no new point of law at issue that needs to be decided by the Supreme Court. That is the only way to end the abuse.

lastlib

(23,278 posts)
27. God, I hope her office isn't close to the fourth floor......!
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM
May 2020


And no windows.

And no flights on small planes...............

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
58. yes he is. at the worst possible time
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:36 PM
May 2020

four walls are closing in. pandemic, judges, polls, and looming election.

doc03

(35,363 posts)
37. We have seen this dozens of times now a court orders Trump to do
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:02 PM
May 2020

something he refuses and appeals and it is dead for months or years. This is nothing to get the least bit excited over.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
48. IIRC this is in DC and the GOP just appointed a ringer to that district's appellate court
Thu May 14, 2020, 02:38 AM
May 2020

In fact I believe they (someone?) are currently being investigated by Congress for the politically-motivated request for sitting judges to retire that resulted in that vacancy on the DC appellate court.

JudyM

(29,270 posts)
54. There needs to be some standard for performance instituted when we win back the senate.
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:11 AM
May 2020

The oath needs to have teeth.

bucolic_frolic

(43,266 posts)
56. and that leads back to subpoenas, investigations, impeachment
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:02 AM
May 2020

THIS Republican Senate cabal wouldn't remove one of their own, so how do you enforce patriotism

mcar

(42,372 posts)
51. They'll ignore it, of course
Thu May 14, 2020, 09:24 AM
May 2020

But it'll make for a good news cycle. He's lost just about every case, every appeal.

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