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Edwcraig

(290 posts)
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:02 AM May 2020

Red Alert. Losing California and Wisconsin by these margins should be viewed as alarming

Interested in the analysis of exit polls and turn out numbers. What was the dynamic of mail in voting. What was the extent of voter turn out. What were the impacts of the economy vs public safety messaging on both sides. What was Trump's approval rating in these districts as compared to the approval of the governor. ........... We ignore this at our peril.

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Red Alert. Losing California and Wisconsin by these margins should be viewed as alarming (Original Post) Edwcraig May 2020 OP
I agree, but...there was something weird going on in CA-25 where Garcia was backed by a left leaning uponit7771 May 2020 #1
We should definitely be taking a closer look at what happened and why. FM123 May 2020 #2
The Wisconsin results... BGBD May 2020 #3
Yeah, the details are important. Cha May 2020 #4
Good to know. Edwcraig May 2020 #5
Nope stopbush May 2020 #6
... greenjar_01 May 2020 #7
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! fleur-de-lisa May 2020 #8
We focus on the vote and ignore the ratfucking to our peril, too... abqtommy May 2020 #9
Ok but what are we going to do about the ratfucking? SlogginThroughIt May 2020 #15
I'm disappointed that there wasn't more pushback in 2016 when we knew we had evidence abqtommy May 2020 #17
Both CA - 25 and WI-07 were GOP Held Seats - That Seems To Be Missing as A Factor In Analysis Indykatie May 2020 #10
Will they face another election in November? FloridaBlues May 2020 #11
Why? brooklynite May 2020 #12
Not sure this warrants a panic attack... Wounded Bear May 2020 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #18
I would be interested in your analysis mercuryblues May 2020 #14
historically red seats are red. OMG the sky is falling nt msongs May 2020 #16
Who are you, exactly? I live in California: how are "we" losing California? Hekate May 2020 #19
The Wisconsin seat is in a rural, conservative area of the state LeftInTX May 2020 #20

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
1. I agree, but...there was something weird going on in CA-25 where Garcia was backed by a left leaning
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:05 AM
May 2020

... group.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
3. The Wisconsin results...
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:18 AM
May 2020

shouldn't worry you at all. That is a deeply red district and the margin is way down. if that is the result in November Biden will win Wisconsin easily.

Trump won there by 21.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
15. Ok but what are we going to do about the ratfucking?
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:41 AM
May 2020

I hear this all the time but what is the answer for it?

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
17. I'm disappointed that there wasn't more pushback in 2016 when we knew we had evidence
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:27 PM
May 2020

of conspiracy and collusion but it's like we just rolled over. We could do a lot of good by
staging large demonstrations. It's like we all turned into complacent zombies. States could step up
with investigations and prosecutions. Like Hendirx said, there's got to be someway outta here. I wish I had a better answer.

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
10. Both CA - 25 and WI-07 were GOP Held Seats - That Seems To Be Missing as A Factor In Analysis
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:56 AM
May 2020

CA-25 had been in GOP hands for decades until Dems won it in the 2018 wave. As for the WI seat, Trump won the district by 21 points. That's right 21 freaking points. Dems lost in the special election by 15. We may have a chance to re-take CA-25 in Nov if we have tremendous turn-out but clearly our 2018 win was an anomaly for the district. It's fine to do a deeper dive but your concern seems a little over the top given the history of these 2 districts.

Wounded Bear

(58,681 posts)
13. Not sure this warrants a panic attack...
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:25 AM
May 2020

that's likely to send precious resources after frivolous ideas.

Sure, let's find out the facts, etc. But the national trend hasn't really changed based on 2 races in red areas.

Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #13)

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
14. I would be interested in your analysis
Wed May 13, 2020, 11:29 AM
May 2020

on the Graham/Harrison election. What are you hearing, that you can share publically?

Harrison is neck and neck in polling with Graham. Last week a BIG Graham donor jumped ship and endorsed Harrison. Forgot the guys name but he is a CEO of SC Michelin. He also wrote an excoriating OpEd on Graham.


https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/opinion/2020/05/10/opinion-why-endorse-challenger-jaime-harrison-over-sen-lindsey-graham/3083562001/

Hekate

(90,758 posts)
19. Who are you, exactly? I live in California: how are "we" losing California?
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:33 PM
May 2020

Do share your sources, Edwcraig.


LeftInTX

(25,465 posts)
20. The Wisconsin seat is in a rural, conservative area of the state
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:51 PM
May 2020

The Democrat was running against a state senator.
Of course, it would be great if she won.
I think if she had held elected office previously, it would have helped.
But that area is just plain ole, old with old people.
It's the home of national forests where politics is mostly local and focuses on the local DNR and electric companies. (Utilities or lack of them are a big thing up there)

Me calling my dad: "Dad we don't have internet up here"
Dad: "I will call so and so"
Two weeks later, still no internet.

Me calling my dad: "Dad the power is out up here?"
Dad: "Call so and so"
Me: Calling so and so etc...


I'm not too worried about that race.

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