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sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:24 PM May 2020

New Threat To Economy - Americans Saving Like It's The '80's

Americans are slashing their spending, hoarding cash and shrinking their credit card debt as they fear their jobs could disappear during the coronavirus pandemic.

US credit card debt suddenly reversed course in March and fell by the largest percentage in more than 30 years. At the same time, savings rates climbed to levels unseen since Ronald Reagan was in the White House.

The dramatic shifts in consumer behavior reflect the unprecedented turmoil in the US economy caused by the pandemic. Although caution is a logical response to that uncertainty, hunkering down also poses a risk to the recovery in an economy dominated by consumer spending. A so-called V-shaped recovery can't happen if consumers are sitting on the sidelines.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/12/investing/jobs-coronavirus-consumer-spending-debt/index.html

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Auggie

(31,177 posts)
2. Headline is suspect IMO. WEALTHY Americans are saving ...
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:35 PM
May 2020

upper middle income and those just under the 5%.

The middle class and poor are going deeper into debt. Of course they can’t save — they haven’t disposable income with which to do so.

Wounded Bear

(58,680 posts)
3. Guilty as charged...
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:37 PM
May 2020

much of my stim check went to pay down credit cards. A significant slice of it is still in my savings account.

Spending is not much different in that I'm basically buying food and critical supplies and not much else.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Same here.
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:14 AM
May 2020

I made some political donations, paid down some credit cards and left the rest in savings. I am also only buying food and supplies. No extras.

Well, I rent the occasional movie on Amazon, but that's not much.

I just don't feel secure enough to be spending right now.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,382 posts)
5. And in six months, a year, we'll get another tsking story about how people are spending too much
Tue May 12, 2020, 08:49 PM
May 2020

and aren't saving.

safeinOhio

(32,711 posts)
6. Most of my friends are retired on fixed income.
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:22 PM
May 2020

Most are doing the best in years. Not spending $ on going out and vacations. Most say they are spending $300 to $600 less every month.

mokawanis

(4,448 posts)
7. I'm spending a lot less
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:30 PM
May 2020

and banking every penny I can. I think we're in for a very rough year, and beyond that? I don't even want to think about it right now.

Renew Deal

(81,868 posts)
8. Are people saving or do they have nowhere to spend it?
Tue May 12, 2020, 10:57 PM
May 2020

I don't think there is a lot of recreational spending right now.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
11. I definitely am
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:32 PM
May 2020

Who knows what the future brings, and why go out of my way to stimulate the economy in an election year with a president I can't stand?

I understand that I'm fortunate to be able to save, and so despite wanting to save as much as I can, I've also been giving some away, to charity and a bit to Biden's campaign. I had originally budgeted about $1,000 for political donations this season, but now I'm torn between that and wanting to give to food banks and charities that help people out of work, especially undocumented immigrants who are ineligible for government relief. I'll probably end up upping my total contribution and doing a little of both.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
12. Negative interest rates will end the savings binge.
Tue May 12, 2020, 11:45 PM
May 2020

Once they are implemented, physical cash withdrawals will be highly restricted or prohibited. This will stop bank runs.

They are going to force people to spend the money. What do you do when you are losing money on a bank account and can’t get physical cash? You spend it.

Bucky

(54,039 posts)
13. Why we need an ongoing stimulus
Wed May 13, 2020, 12:04 AM
May 2020

You got to water the roots of the economy. We need New Deal style make-work projects: roads, bridges, schools, public art projects, farmers' markets, home repair programs... Anything that can get people working and spending.

Scatter siting cottage industries like mask & PPE production would be perfect. Hundreds of people are doing this at home already. We should be doing in the thousands though

Hekate

(90,758 posts)
15. The poor cannot save, & every dollar of their stimulus will go straight back into the economy...
Wed May 13, 2020, 02:43 AM
May 2020

...for food and rent and the credit cards they used to buy groceries for the kids.

ProfessorGAC

(65,117 posts)
17. I'm Suspicious
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:41 AM
May 2020

Can't go to restaurants.
Tech stores closed.
Nonessential stores closed.
No vacations.
Gas prices plunged.
No $40 haircuts or manicures.
No $300 tattoos.
I'm doubting there is a behavioral change among consumers.
There's just nowhere to spend the discretionary dollars.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
19. huh ? Everything is closed , what are they supposed to spend on ? Why not pay down credit card debt
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:01 AM
May 2020

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