We just watched the movie "A Bridge Too Far"

[TNNurse]

from 1977, about a plan in WWII that did not work out. Long movie, amazing cast, not cheerful
Very impressive that it required a lot of planes and people. Way before CGI.

Today, when Dr. Fauci said trying to get vaccine and to the people to open schools in August, was a bridge too far, I was glad I had just seen it and understood the reference.

[brooklynite]

1. My FIL was growing up in Arnhem when MARKET GARDEN occurred...

[MaryMagdaline]

4. My dad participated in market garden as a paratrooper

He never much cared for Montgomery

[First Speaker]

8. My dad was a tailgunner on a B-17 that participated in that battle...

...and he hated the Germans to his dying day...

[panader0]

12. My dad was a navigator/bombardier with 50 combat missions

in B-17's, B-24's and A-20's.
Europe, North Africa and Italy.

[Demonaut]

18. I have a dad too

[MaryMagdaline]

22. Good lord - those losses were so huge

Can’t believe he survived that many
Glad you are with us panader0

[dware]

23. My dad was a Marine in the Pacific Theater,

he participated in the invasion of Okinawa, Iwo Jima and was part of the Occupation, he hated the Japanese and anything made in Japan to the day he died.

I have no ill will towards anyone, but I can understand his hatred and contempt towards the Japanese.

[MaryMagdaline]

24. It's very hard to overcome

[Celerity]

25. Not sure if this interests you, but there is a magnificent current Hardcore History (Dan Carlin)

podcast series out now about Japan and the Pacific war theatre in WWII. It is free to download at present. MASSIVE episodes, 3 so far, each is over 4 hours long.

Carlin is a superb history podcaster, the best on the planet, or close.


Supernova in the East


Hardcore History 62 – Supernova in the East I

The Asia-Pacific War of 1937-1945 has deep roots. It also involves a Japanese society that's been called one of the most distinctive on Earth. If there were a Japanese version of Captain America, this would be his origin story.

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-62-supernova-in-the-east-i/




Hardcore History 63 – Supernova in the East II

Deep themes run through this show, with allegations of Japanese war crimes and atrocities in China at the start leading to eerily familiar, almost modern questions over how the world should respond. And then Dec 7, 1941 arrives...

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-63-supernova-in-the-east-ii/




Hardcore History 64 – Supernova in the East III

Japan's rising sun goes supernova and engulfs a huge area of Asia and the Pacific. A war without mercy begins to develop infusing the whole conflict with a savage vibe.

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-64-supernova-in-the-east-iii/

[dware]

26. Thanks, I'll definitely take a look at it. nt

[MaryMagdaline]

19. As did mine

His terse comment about occupation duty in Berlin: he never met a German who had been a Nazi

He did not raise us on hate, though. My mother, who lost her high school sweetheart in the war (before dad) was not very forgiving of the Germans

After trump, I’ve forgiven everyone

[MaryMagdaline]

21. Respect ✊

[canetoad]

16. So did my uncle

He survived.

[MaryMagdaline]

20. When I watch those news reels I wonder how any of them survived

[Siwsan]

2. That is an excellent movie

I saw it when it first came out.

[SharonAnn]

11. Good movie. The book is even better.

[brewens]

3. That cast! It's almost hard to believe. I couldn't wait for that to come around when it was

released. Another great one from back then is Cross of Iron. James Coburn and Maximillian Schell. Great action and they even had a couple real vintage Russian tanks.

[Cirque du So-What]

5. It's an apt analogy

not unlike going out on a limb, and the coronavirus is sawing away near the trunk.

[dubyadiprecession]

6. General Montgomery's half baked plan.

The German generals thought he was second rate to patton.

[rsdsharp]

7. Patton wasn't

that complimentary.

[whistler162]

10. I was thinkking of Patton in

comparison with Trump today. Patton was a wartime general who understood risk and went around with pistols on him as a safety precaution and Trump, delusionally, thinks he is a wartime leader scared to wear a mask to show the country he understands risks and will take safety precautions.

[Ex Lurker]

17. Patton was a narcissist and a crackpot

But he was very, very good at his chosen profession

[elleng]

9. Good movie.

[JHB]

13. Gosh, I've seen that movie so many times I can't begin to guess at the number.

It's a big epic movie done right.

And (eventually) it kind of blew my mind when I recognized one of the US soldiers as a young John Ratznberger.

[TNNurse]

14. We had fun watching for the next recognizable actor.

I am a IMDB addict so I had the page pulled up and looked for people as we watched.

[abqtommy]

15. I have a friend who lives in The Netherlands very close to where the action in the movie

and the actual battle occurred. They still have a yearly celebration there to commemorate this event, with large numbers of Brit veterans and Netherlands survivors on hand. Don't ever think that things like this go unremarked or unappreciated... Good on Dr. Fauci too...