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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrumpgate: This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest
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80,000 total deaths. At this rate well be at 100,000 before the end of May. 150,000 or more by end of the summer is all totally possible. This is what happens when incompetent demagogues run the government. People die. Biggest internal US crisis in 100 years.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)And not only are they doing nothing to stop it, they are actively doing everything possible to make it worse.
We ain't seen nothing yet, people......
Cha
(297,240 posts)Like Demovictory posted down thread.. "Ignore trump, don't drink bleach, wear masks, Safe Distancing,, I'll add wear gloves when needed, Wash hands, and hang in there so we can GOTV him OUT.
BeSafe!
dalton99a
(81,509 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)out of his Stupid Arrogant Refusal to take the CV Seriously Until IT Was TOO LATE.
Thank you for the Proof, Dalton!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He's still not taking it seriously. There is still no plan formulated if there is a future resurgence of the virus. As far as he's concerned, it's all a big nuisance and he's just washed his hands of it. Doesn't want to deal.
He has done absolutely jack-shit to prevent the spread of this disease, and has only used the crisis as an opportunity to congratulate himself for the successes of others and to make a profit off of PPE and ventilators that should have been going to the hardest hit states and their hospitals.
We cannot go through this with him again. We need a real president, who will appoint intelligent, competent people that will be able to take charge and mobilize resources the next time something like this comes along. This has just been a joke. Thank god we have had some good people at the state and local levels or things would have been even worse.
Cha
(297,240 posts)spewing More Lies about it. It's only about how it affects his re-election prospects.. which should be nil.
Thank you!
Initech
(100,076 posts)Like if Skynet were deployed or Thanos snapped. This thing isn't going away any time soon. Especially not with the utter incompetence of this administration.
Cha
(297,240 posts)trump only Lies to us.
Mahalo, Initech~BeSafe!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,857 posts)having the highest deaths per million -- 751 -- of any country? Incompetent demagogues there?
la-trucker
(283 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)Really.. we know what's going on here & Why.. we've had months of it..and that's who the Tweet was talking about. The US Government.
Cha
(297,240 posts)DenverJared
(457 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)Give us more time and I'm sure we'll be better at killing more citizens per capita.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Belgium counts suspected Covid-19 deaths, while the rest of countries don't:
"Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. According to Belgium's latest official figures, out of 7,703 deaths, 53% have been in care homes."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52491210
Our numbers would skyrocket if we counted suspected cases in nursing homes like Belgium does. Only 33 US states even report nursing home-related Covid-19 deaths. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus Based on Belgium's numbers allocation, that means the deaths in those states should be considered twice what they are claimed to be. Right now only about 35% of US Covid-19 deaths are reported to be nursing home residents. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/09/us/coronavirus-cases-nursing-homes-us.html Given Belgium's numbers, I suspect the US nursing home Covid-19 death total number needs to be doubled, at least.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,857 posts)this is the only country with a lot of deaths.
Yes, we have the dubious distinction of having the most deaths, but we also have a lot more people than most other countries, so the deaths per million is a far more revealing number. Alas, we're not number one by that metric.
So, I still wonder what in the world is going on in Belgium.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,346 posts)SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)"Officials also acknowledge mistakes were made at the beginning: poor preparation left care home staff lacking personal protective equipment (PPE). That allowed the virus to spread quickly, with devastating effect."
This was compounded by the fact that many more people in Belgium put loved ones in care homes than elsewhere in Europe.
Another big reason their numbers are so high is they count suspected Covid-19 deaths, and other countries don't:
"Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. According to Belgium's latest official figures, out of 7,703 deaths, 53% have been in care homes."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52491210
Our numbers would skyrocket if we counted suspected cases like Belgium does. Only 33 US states report nursing home-related deaths. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/11/nursing-homes-us-data-coronavirus Based on Belgium's numbers allocation, that means the deaths in those states should be considered twice what they are claimed to be.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Admitting their mistakes is a huge step to making it better.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)I wish like hell he NEVER ran.
The wreckage he'll leave behind - sometimes I wonder if it's even possible to clean it all up.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)I have the feeling that they are quite a bit higher
Cha
(297,240 posts)wow.. they really have a handle on that. Did they not call it a "hoax" and ignore it for 70 days?
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)you never know.
Thank you, Demovictory, BeSafe!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)BeSafe!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)どういたしまして。
共有してくれてありがとう。
Cha
(297,240 posts)I like your mask!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)especially around me... if I catch this, I am dead.
Cha
(297,240 posts)the virus on it?
I just remembered you were sick and in hospital.. so that's why it would be more deadly for you?
So sorry, StaySafe!
Its because I was in the hospital last November and nearly died... that I am being so careful now...the mask on my photo is photo shopped, a representation of what we all should be wearing now... for a while.
Rhiannon12866
(205,405 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)doesn't it?
Rhiannon12866
(205,405 posts)How anyone can ignore or dismiss this unprecedented and terrifying national crisis just boggles the mind! I had to go out today and there were numerous lighted signs on the roads here that said STAY HOME and COVER FACE IN PUBLIC! Is this really an acceptable way to live? And it's far from over - according to those who actually know what they're talking about...
Cha
(297,240 posts)for Gov Cuomo. It could be so much worse without a Dem Gov like him in charge.
Those who ignore the safety precautions protocol are brainwashed by those in the Cult45.. and there's enough of them to dangerously screw it up for everyone else.
We shall persevere in spite of all that.
Rhiannon12866
(205,405 posts)And have a smart and engaged governor who speaks up and advocates for us - Andrew Cuomo. His Dad would be proud! On MSNBC tonight they said he has an 81% approval rate on handling this crisis. How it's not higher is a mystery to me!
Cha
(297,240 posts)Mahalo!
As you know there's pockets of red in New York who wouldn't give the Dem Gov any credit no matter how good a job he's doing.
Rhiannon12866
(205,405 posts)After all, my idiot district keeps reelecting Elise Stefanik - even though there have been constant protests in my area ever since her first term.
oasis
(49,387 posts)the architect of the Convid-19 response disaster.
mnhtnbb
(31,389 posts)80,000 people died immediately. In an instant.
That number astonished the world.
We have had the equivalent number of deaths from one source in two months.