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edhopper

(33,587 posts)
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:09 PM May 2020

Why do you think other GOP Presidents poll numbers slipped

when they showed themselves for what they were. GHWB went into the 30%s, his son hit the 20%s after Katrina. Even Reagan went down from Iran/Contra.

But nothing seems to get Trump out of the 40 percentile. Not even the death of close to 100,000 Americans.

What is the explanation?

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Why do you think other GOP Presidents poll numbers slipped (Original Post) edhopper May 2020 OP
he sold his soul to the devil mucifer May 2020 #1
That's ridiculous edhopper May 2020 #2
ya got me there mucifer May 2020 #4
...and so did his followers. samnsara May 2020 #3
He's not killing his followers, at least not in large numbers. Turbineguy May 2020 #5
+10000000000000000 Celerity May 2020 #20
FOX News & corrupt pollsters like Rasmussen Jarqui May 2020 #6
Possibly landlines too Polybius May 2020 #22
it is a revenge cult NRaleighLiberal May 2020 #7
A former boss (who I bet voted for Trump) told me... Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #8
the media has gotten worse and worse unblock May 2020 #9
They didn't have FOX News. sop May 2020 #10
Trump is below 40% in recent polls. Demsrule86 May 2020 #11
no, he's not edhopper May 2020 #16
No he isn't Polybius May 2020 #18
create perception, create reality stillcool May 2020 #12
Because the others TlalocW May 2020 #13
Data gathering. lpbk2713 May 2020 #14
Psychological targeting of voters using saturation media. Midnight Writer May 2020 #15
That makes sense. My son in law is a political analyst and has a lot to say about this. CTyankee May 2020 #21
I never understood why GHWB went into the low 30's (even high 20's in some polls) Polybius May 2020 #17
He's good at one thing, whether we give him credit for it or not Polybius May 2020 #19
They lost support because they weren't evil enough ibegurpard May 2020 #23

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
5. He's not killing his followers, at least not in large numbers.
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:13 PM
May 2020

And what's more, his followers like who he's killing.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
6. FOX News & corrupt pollsters like Rasmussen
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:13 PM
May 2020

explains some of it

Widespread ignorance explains another part of it

Polybius

(15,433 posts)
22. Possibly landlines too
Tue May 12, 2020, 02:02 PM
May 2020

CNN poll today has him at 46%. I know they are not right-wing, but at the same time I don't believe he's at 46%. It's got to be landline users, who lean conservative.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
8. A former boss (who I bet voted for Trump) told me...
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:16 PM
May 2020

... years ago that he lost all respect for Bush Sr. after he gave a speech that expressed empathy and compassion for all people.

I don't even recall the speech he cited now, but the fact that it bothered him told me a LOT about that asshole.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
9. the media has gotten worse and worse
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:16 PM
May 2020

after katrina, the media didn't give shrub much positive coverage, or really much coverage at all. they didn't lambaste him as much as i would have liked, but they didn't continue to prop him up.

donnie *still* gets a ton of media attention. granted, he's an incumbent running for re-election in an election year, but, as with 2016, the coverage is *heavily* tilted in favor of the republican candidate. just look at the hours of airtime donnie gets vs. what biden gets. it's actually even worse than the little hillary got, if you can believe that.

fortunately, donnie's been a train wreck and couldn't make the simple and obvious political statements that would have turned his image around, and instead he just dug himself a hole and kept digging. but the media gave him every opportunity to create a new image as the uniting leader in a crisis.

still, no such thing as bad press, someone once said, so as long as they continue to spell his name right, there will continue to be a chunk of america that thinks if he's on the news all the time, he must be good....

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
13. Because the others
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:34 PM
May 2020

Were capable of acting like adults to varying degrees. There was some point where each one, no matter what kind of dick they truly were, put a stopper on it. Trump doesn't have that, and it appeals to the lizard-brained out there that see his antics as owning the libs. As long as he's owning the libs, it doesn't matter because it fuels their hate-boners, which is the only kind of "joy" they're capable of feeling.

TlalocW

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
15. Psychological targeting of voters using saturation media.
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

It's no longer about issues, policies or performance.

It is about playing to people's personality disorders.

People may change their minds, but they rarely change their personalities.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. That makes sense. My son in law is a political analyst and has a lot to say about this.
Mon May 11, 2020, 01:57 AM
May 2020

He does professional polling in MA.

Polybius

(15,433 posts)
17. I never understood why GHWB went into the low 30's (even high 20's in some polls)
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:49 PM
May 2020

I mean the only issue he was unpopular with in 1992 was the economy. Sure, he wasn't a good president but he wasn't a 30% president either. His lowest point was even lower than W's lowest point. He had an incredible 60% drop. Young teenage Xers literally hated him in 1992.

Polybius

(15,433 posts)
19. He's good at one thing, whether we give him credit for it or not
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:53 PM
May 2020

He can fire up a crowd and has a knack for telling people exactly what they want to hear. Bush Sr. and Jr. did not have any crowd-speaking talent whatsoever.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
23. They lost support because they weren't evil enough
Tue May 12, 2020, 02:06 PM
May 2020

The old "RINO" argument. Trump has something for everyone. The supposedly socially liberal aren't socially liberal enough to be appalled by him and they love dismantling government and the "deplorables" are over the moon.

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