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FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:46 PM May 2020

Soooo, what's your projections on the timeline for the next "wave"

It's gonna happen, just wonder how fast?

In states that are already hotspots that are opening back up...there's already active cases in the community too...it won't take more than 2 weeks to see the spike IMO

Here in CA, they are going slower, but with airlines still going to places like lax and sfo, it's gonna keep coming. Maybe a month before a real "spike"

The next wave is going to be worse than before because now the virus is fully "here" in our everything. In Feb it was just manifesting, our chance for containment is long gone. Once we return to "normal" it's going to got fast and hot, who knows how long?

So what, after a month and the spike begins to reveal how "back to normal" was really a bad idea, then what? we lock it down again?

So, say by mid June or early July we have to go BACK inside.
Hurricane season, heat waves, fire season...

This summer could very well be hell for us.

(not to mention the continued loss of income and food insecurity, mortages and rents not being paid...)
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, indeed.

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Soooo, what's your projections on the timeline for the next "wave" (Original Post) FirstLight May 2020 OP
I need it to happen now. Bosses sitting down to decide when I come back to work on the 15th. LizBeth May 2020 #1
so sorry...that sucks FirstLight May 2020 #2
I was lucky in that I had employment and they let me off with promise of coming back with hours. LizBeth May 2020 #9
May 24,2020 Wellstone ruled May 2020 #3
In 2 weeks the cases will rise significantly Runningdawg May 2020 #4
oh yeah, it's not gonna be pretty or easy to lock it back up either.... FirstLight May 2020 #5
I agree with your assessment. Trump is determined to keep things open. Blue_true May 2020 #26
I don't think there will be a 49jim May 2020 #6
+1 LizBeth May 2020 #11
***THE OLD "WAVE" HASN'T GONE AWAY*** The M$M is being irresponsible with 2nd wave talk when uponit7771 May 2020 #7
I totally agree, which is why reopening is a farce... FirstLight May 2020 #8
The American Flu (since it started in Kansas) numbers went down after NPI Then went back up in uponit7771 May 2020 #13
+1 Newest Reality May 2020 #10
+1 LizBeth May 2020 #12
Every six weeks all year long RainCaster May 2020 #14
Of course my thoughts come from working in school districts. Doreen May 2020 #15
I get it...worked in education for a few years and always saw the "september sickness" FirstLight May 2020 #16
Yeah, I see it creeping up already. Doreen May 2020 #17
2 weeks at most durablend May 2020 #18
A 2nd DJIA wave down is likely and about due. May correlate somewhat with virus. empedocles May 2020 #19
??? DJIA? FirstLight May 2020 #20
End of May, beginning of June. Voltaire2 May 2020 #21
The first wave hasn't gone away yet, and there's no sign that it will. tinrobot May 2020 #22
I was looking at a graph of Florida's deaths today Chainfire May 2020 #23
You know what's worse? My little rural county in Ca is already moving to Phase 2 with only 55 tests FirstLight May 2020 #24
There will be NO second wave! Dirty Socialist May 2020 #25

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
1. I need it to happen now. Bosses sitting down to decide when I come back to work on the 15th.
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:52 PM
May 2020

I want them to give me another month or more.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
2. so sorry...that sucks
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:55 PM
May 2020

I'm out of work right now, but was just coming off disability in Feb so no unemployment or anything. I'm kinda wishing it would happen sooner and we could get maybe another stimulus or something...but it's not likely. (at least I have a couple online gigs to try and keep groceries stocked)


LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
9. I was lucky in that I had employment and they let me off with promise of coming back with hours.
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:05 PM
May 2020

Now I will see if they give me my two years and accumulated PTO or if they start me as a new employee. That is going to matter. My son had just finished up his job March 15. Lol. So he missed the unemployment too. My stimulus and refund check are floating around. They put aside the new address 2019 tax return and sent 1200 to old address. I have been battling that and looks like that is not going to happen. I do not know what to do from here.

Runningdawg

(4,517 posts)
4. In 2 weeks the cases will rise significantly
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:55 PM
May 2020

By Fathers Day we will be locked down twice as hard and twice as long as this last time. For people who must go out, or who are forced back to work - there will be the added threat of being shot by protesters.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
5. oh yeah, it's not gonna be pretty or easy to lock it back up either....
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:58 PM
May 2020

I fear there will literally have to be bodies piling up for people to admit it's fucking dangerous out there...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. I agree with your assessment. Trump is determined to keep things open.
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:46 PM
May 2020

Bodies can be laying beside streets and him and republicans would come up with reasons why that is not a problem.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
7. ***THE OLD "WAVE" HASN'T GONE AWAY*** The M$M is being irresponsible with 2nd wave talk when
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:00 PM
May 2020

... the first wave hasn't subsided.

That was New York, New York's death count is down to 250 a day not everyone else's

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
8. I totally agree, which is why reopening is a farce...
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:02 PM
May 2020

But, with the reopening of everything the numbers are gonna fucking go off the hook...that will be called the "second wave"...

Basically just like in 1918, they opened up and had parades and then got smacked with it again, before the end of summer.

This thing is not acting like a seasonal flu either, so we won't get the "summer" off...it will just keep barreling through.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
13. The American Flu (since it started in Kansas) numbers went down after NPI Then went back up in
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:08 PM
May 2020

... the fall of that year when NPIs were loosened.

With CV19 the infection rate has >>> NOT <<< gone down and isn't flat its still has a small but present multiplier in front of it.

Even keeping NY's numbers there's no flattening of the curve there's no second wave, the first one hasn't gone away.

The media will call it a second wave because, looking at what they're doing with Tara Reade story, they like ratings

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
14. Every six weeks all year long
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:15 PM
May 2020

Until we run out of gun - totin' MAGA wearing hicks demanding their rights.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
15. Of course my thoughts come from working in school districts.
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:18 PM
May 2020

When kids come back from summer vacation and all of a sudden get packed tightly in small classrooms where they now have so many kids in each room the 6 feet apart is in no way a reality.

Every year when the kids go back in September that is when flu season ( or whatever else may be going around ) is it's strongest. More kids are out of school in September, november, and some of December from being sick. Whatever all of those kids had been exposed to during the summer comes to school with them.

When they get sick the teachers, bus drivers, lunch room workers, the custodians, and then all of them spread it to friends and family and so on and so on.

That is just what I have noticed from years of being a custodian and why I think that is going to be the main second wave.

Of course this could be prevented if school is not started as usual again. I am not saying it will not happen if school does not start but it will be less of a harsh second wave.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
16. I get it...worked in education for a few years and always saw the "september sickness"
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:22 PM
May 2020

But Im thinking we are on a much faster track with the general public and people being stupid and flocking back to social situations...

I fear school wont re-start in the fall because we will still be dealing with what thihs "re-opening" is gonna unleash.

This virus has moved "slowly" at first but once it gets a toehold it goes up fast. With a release of people out there it's gonna explode

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
17. Yeah, I see it creeping up already.
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:36 PM
May 2020

I think the second way is starting but this time it is so wide spread people do not see it as one but as a small amount of individual cases. That is their first deadly assumption.

IF they do decide to be stupid and open schools we will pretty much be screwed.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
18. 2 weeks at most
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:38 PM
May 2020

Lots of photos around of people shopping sans social distancing or masks and spreading the corona.

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
21. End of May, beginning of June.
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:43 PM
May 2020

Luckily the knucklehead knazis in the White House will pretend it isn’t happening, dispute their own numbers, amplify the plandemic horseshit, sabotage governors trying to control the spread in their states, blame China, blame the derp state, and encourage armed revolt.

So it should all go very well.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
23. I was looking at a graph of Florida's deaths today
Sun May 10, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

We haven't peaked yet in phase one. Our death rate has been on a very steady rise since early March. I expect that the rise will become steeper within ten days. When that happens it may be the beginning of phase II or it may just be a continuation of phase I. I think that it is inevitable that our death tolls are going to rise as people try to act as if everything is normal. Personally, I don't think that the virus gives a tinker's damn about the economy.

Our state government has come to the conclusion that the rising deaths don't matter. The idiots believe that the economy can return to "normal" when people are afraid to go out. The economy will not begin a meaningful recovery until there is an effective preventative or treatment. No amount of politicking will change that.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
24. You know what's worse? My little rural county in Ca is already moving to Phase 2 with only 55 tests
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:21 PM
May 2020

per day!


so we managed to "flatten the curve" now everyone thinks it's all hunky dory!

This weekend was SWAMPED with tourists (wonder where they stayed, since hotels and casinoas are still closeed...for now)


Now my grocery store is MORE dangerous from them coming up here from the city and NOT doing ANY precautions...

A few local restaurants even reopened, but they did NOTHING to keep distance rules in place or limit customers inside....

So yeah, I't been nice knowing y'all.... in a week or 2 we are gonna se it BLOW the fuck UP!
(our local hospital has 68 beds)

so fucking screwn...

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