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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsiPhone 5 will not support simultaneous voice and data on Verizon LTE.
Sigh... At 3 am, We'll be staying with AT&T.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/13/simultaneous_voice_and_data_over_4g_lte_limited_to_certain_networks
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Massive LTE coverage, but with a catch.
I hate, hate, hate ALL carriers.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)I can stream Netflix on it.
JustAnotherGen
(31,893 posts)On my Thunderbolt. 4G data and 3 G voice. But even if you have 3G data and voice - your calls and data ride over different APNs. Ditto your global data - an entirely different set of APN's.
You will still only have on SIM Card with the Verizon version.
Now - if you like your data plan with AT &T I would stay there on a 2 year contract. They have not yet moved to a Revenue Per Account model as opposed to an ARPU model that they report to Wall Street. So you could probably lock in for two years in your current plan.
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,893 posts)If you have one - hold onto it until it dies. There is no need to get a phone very 10 months or two years. I work in the industry and launched 57 devices between January 2006 and December 2007 - same carrier . . . Truthfully - its a shell game. I ONLY upgraded from an Eris to a Thunder because I left my Eris outside - in a snowstorm. I then went onto Product management and now work in the Finance org - same company. When it breaks/dies - get a new device.
Until then - its just something shiny that's being dangled in front of you to get you to spend more money.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I was fine with that, to the Samsung because we needed a data plan and messaging, due to work, and very limited Web.
I agree with you, until they die or cannot use the apps on them due to software.
hlthe2b
(102,360 posts)it works fine, still looks new (I've kept it well protected) and when I bought I, I waited until I could get a deal on a refurbished one (which as it turns out, had clearly never even been out of the box and thus was as new as any other).
Hell, outside of a better camera, I don't think I'm missing anything.
JustAnotherGen
(31,893 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,893 posts)By BRIAN X. CHEN
NYT Blogs
Thu, 13 Sep 2012
English
673 words
© 2012 The New York Times Company. All rights reserved
Brenda Raney, a Verizon Wireless spokeswoman, said it was Apple's decision to design the iPhone 5 so that customers could make voice calls and do Internet activity simultaneously only over Wi-Fi, not over Verizon's cell network. "The iPhone 5 is designed to allow customers to make voice calls on the Verizon Wireless network and surf the Web on Wi-Fi," she said in an e-mail. "It was an Apple decision."
The explanation for this, it turns out, is complicated. The technology in 4G LTE networks does not currently handle voice transmissions; it only does data. So when you place a phone call on a 4G LTE smartphone, it's actually rolling back to the carrier's older second- or third-generation network, according to AnandTech, a Web publication that does deep analysis on hardware.
That means when AT&T customers place a phone call and use data on the iPhone 5, both functions will roll back to AT&T's older network, which can handle them simultaneously. When you place a phone call while using data in an app with a Verizon or Sprint iPhone 5, it will roll back to their older CDMA networks, which are not capable of simultaneously doing calls and data. And that's why the iPhone 5 on Verizon and Sprint, despite being a 4G LTE device, will still not do both at the same time.
An Apple spokeswoman, Natalie Kerris, put it this way: "iPhone 5 supports simultaneous voice and data on GSM-based 3G and LTE networks. It is not yet possible to do simultaneous voice and data on networks that use CDMA for voice and LTE for data in a single radio design."
So why does Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S III, a 4G LTE phone, juggle calls and data? Samsung added an extra antenna so that it pulls data from the 4G LTE network at the same time that it's using another antenna to do voice, said Anand Shimpi, editor in chief of AnandTech.
Then why didn't Apple add another antenna? Its phone already has two antennas in an effort to improve reception, and it would have had to add a third antenna just for Verizon and Sprint phones to give them simultaneous data and calls, Mr. Shimpi explained. Leaving that third antenna out allows Apple to simplify the process of manufacturing the iPhone for multiple carriers. Plus, in the next two years, 4G LTE technology is supposed to evolve to support voice calls, which would render another antenna unnecessary.
Whew! Despite that explanation, the ability to do calls and data at the same time was one of the major things that AT&T's iPhone customers had that Verizon's and Sprint's didn't. And for now, that story remains the same with the iPhone 5 -- which may be a consideration for customers considering a new phone on those networks.
Please note - this is from a Daily Wireless Journal/Aggregator - that gets blasted out to all folks in telecom.