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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:44 PM May 2020

Whatever happened to the media conducting due diligence before releasing a story?

In this case, it is the thoroughly discredited lie concerning Joe Biden and a woman. Before that, it was the allegations against Al Franken that relied on an obviously staged photo, and testimony from a Trump supporter.

In the past, and it seems like ages ago, what is called the respectable media would actually charge an actual investigative reporter with looking into charges such as were made against both Al Franken and Joe Biden. But that was before vulture capitalists started buying up the media, and gutting newsrooms to maximize profitability.

Now, in the age of instant news, nonsense such as the Biden story is basically accepted at face value and rushed into circulation with no attempt at verification. And these stories are then promoted on Twitter and Facebook, and immediately it becomes truth.

And we are all the worse for it, and what were once called lies are now called alternative facts.

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Whatever happened to the media conducting due diligence before releasing a story? (Original Post) guillaumeb May 2020 OP
Believe All Women is being weaponized. cayugafalls May 2020 #1
Yes, that is true, guillaumeb May 2020 #2
... it's being half stated & tons of false equivalence he's just for ratings uponit7771 May 2020 #3
Who us,we know best. Wellstone ruled May 2020 #4
True. guillaumeb May 2020 #5
When did they ever really care about truth in news. revmclaren May 2020 #6
Okay boomer! Sewa May 2020 #7
Not the "okay boomer" response. guillaumeb May 2020 #9
to be replaced by competing propaganda organs stopdiggin May 2020 #16
One of Biden's main defenses (surrogate talking points) was that the NYTimes had SBoy May 2020 #8
Welcome to DU. guillaumeb May 2020 #10
Nobody wants to hear that Biden is innocent. COLGATE4 May 2020 #17
It's called Trumping the truth? imanamerican63 May 2020 #11
And the result is that many people have no idea that truth exists. guillaumeb May 2020 #12
Exactly! imanamerican63 May 2020 #13
It's been going on for a LONG TIME! I stopped watching in Cha May 2020 #14
There was also a time when the news in general wasn't run by large corporations npk May 2020 #15
And many in the news field are so committed to reporting each side, guillaumeb May 2020 #18
Yep it's the both sides are guilty of it effect npk May 2020 #19
Trump was an advertising gift for the corporate media. guillaumeb May 2020 #21
Once the lie has been shown to be a lie.. you do not get a second bite of the apple to try and Peacetrain May 2020 #20
Agreed. guillaumeb May 2020 #22
It used to be that a story like this would never be published at all, Steelrolled May 2020 #23
I agree. Excellent analysis. guillaumeb May 2020 #24
Acorn, Shirley Sherrod and many more malaise May 2020 #25
Of course, and advertising revenue is first on that agenda. eom guillaumeb May 2020 #26
I disagree malaise May 2020 #27
I stand corrected. guillaumeb May 2020 #28

cayugafalls

(5,645 posts)
1. Believe All Women is being weaponized.
Sun May 3, 2020, 01:57 PM
May 2020

We are the creators of our own demise...in a society of instant everything, people do not take the time to formulate an opinion based on knowledge and facts. They do not dig deep and think critically. Even if their world view is challenged, they have a hard time changing because they do not want to admit they are wrong.

They allow some other "respected" voice to speak for them. It happens on both sides of the aisle.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Yes, that is true,
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:03 PM
May 2020

but my post focuses on the impact on the media when profit replaces professionalism. Media outlets are reduced to merely repeating whatever gains traction.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. Not the "okay boomer" response.
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:26 PM
May 2020

Yes, except for independent media outlets, what is called news and reporting is more stenography.

stopdiggin

(11,377 posts)
16. to be replaced by competing propaganda organs
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:41 PM
May 2020

funded by untraceable money streams. So .. That was fun!

(because .. that "verification and due diligence" thing .. so old school!)

 

SBoy

(92 posts)
8. One of Biden's main defenses (surrogate talking points) was that the NYTimes had
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:25 PM
May 2020

Investigated the incident, including interviewing Tara Reade, and found Biden innocent. The Times had at least eight stories on the incident. I’m not sure how much more due diligence is required.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. Welcome to DU.
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:27 PM
May 2020

Not everyone on the country reads the NY Times. My guess is that far more only watch television, or check their media feeds.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
17. Nobody wants to hear that Biden is innocent.
Sun May 3, 2020, 03:57 PM
May 2020

Doesn't boost ratings. The old "if it bleeds it leads" is still with us.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. And the result is that many people have no idea that truth exists.
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:29 PM
May 2020

There are no facts in this scenario, only opinions.

npk

(3,660 posts)
15. There was also a time when the news in general wasn't run by large corporations
Sun May 3, 2020, 02:52 PM
May 2020

But once the corporations took over, they quickly weeded out the real truly committed Journalist and replaced them with talking heads that would toe the line and print/report sensationalistic stories that served to only sale, sale, sale more ad time. The fifth estate has long been dead in this country.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. And many in the news field are so committed to reporting each side,
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:19 PM
May 2020

that if one side is lying, many in the media still feel a need to treat the lie as simply an alternative viewpoint.

npk

(3,660 posts)
19. Yep it's the both sides are guilty of it effect
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:26 PM
May 2020

Which leads voters to believe there is really no difference in Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, even though there was a grand canyon of difference between the two. But our failed media is just as responsible for giving us Trump as anything or anyone else. Perhaps more responsible

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
21. Trump was an advertising gift for the corporate media.
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:32 PM
May 2020

The myth of Trump was created by the corporate media.

Peacetrain

(22,879 posts)
20. Once the lie has been shown to be a lie.. you do not get a second bite of the apple to try and
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:27 PM
May 2020

make a "new" truth

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
22. Agreed.
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:33 PM
May 2020

A proven liar should always be treated as lying unless proof can be found of the liar's assertion.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
23. It used to be that a story like this would never be published at all,
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:39 PM
May 2020

for the most part. The press would collectively view this as a private matter, and would give people like VP Biden the benefit of the doubt. They would view it as gossip not worth of reporting. But the press have lost that power.

We are now at perhaps the opposite extreme because everyone can be the press, and their biases and concern for accuracy is lower than even before. And many people and the opposite political party (as per the case) are loving it, and encourage it.

The Internet revolution has done many good things - this is not one of them.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
24. I agree. Excellent analysis.
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:41 PM
May 2020

Social media is also a large part of this issue, but even pre-Facebook the US corporate media has been getting worse for many years.

malaise

(269,188 posts)
27. I disagree
Sun May 3, 2020, 04:46 PM
May 2020

Ideology is first for the corporate media - pushing their own agenda but they do like the ad revenue.

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