Here's a list of people Tara Reade has accused of assault or harassment.

[Drunken Irishman]

Her father, Robert Moulton
Her ex-husband, Tate
A former employer, Krystal Rojas
A YWCA supervisor
A former business partner, Frankie Knight
Joe Biden

These are all people Reade has either gone to court with, or publicly accused.

That's quite a lot.

It's a pattern, in fact. So, either Reade is just a very unlucky woman with a sad, painful existence, or she's accusatory happy.

I'm not going to comment either way. You be the judge.

[Butterflylady]

1. Seems to me that she

Wants attention.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

94. She NEEDS a good, caring therapist.

The woman has serious emotional problems.

[Bucky]

126. I wonder where she got them from

There's been a huge betrayal somewhere in her life. It's heartbreaking to think how bad it must've been.

[cwydro]

136. I have very little pity for this woman.

Some people are just assholes.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

141. A betrayal and NO ONE helped her.

[Maraya1969]

2. Can you provide some links? I tried to find one with her father and nada.

[Drunken Irishman]

5. Here is what she said about her father...

Link to tweet

[OKNancy]

3. She sued the YWCA for racial discrimination

She said they discriminated against her for being white.

--
She's been sued for non-payment by her landlord and her law school. Maybe more those are just the ones I know of.

[McCamy Taylor]

15. Anyone who thinks that they are a victim for being white

in this country is crazy. Or greedy. This is enough to make me discount anything she says from here on out.

Basically claims of being discriminated against in this country for being white are "I am suing you because you did not honor my white privilege by giving me everything I want on a silver platter."

[IronLionZion]

21. I see it online all the time.

from people who couldn't handle real discrimination if it blocked them out of jobs and housing and schools and deported them back to Europe.

[ChiTownDenny]

60. Clearly you are not a white person who has spent significant time in enterprises located

in predominantly black neighborhoods.

I live in Broward county now. Its neighborhoods are new to me. I'm 60, white, and retired and live on my own savings as I'm too young to receive Social Security yet. I have shopped in chain grocery stores in predominantly black neighborhoods where I only pay $.99/lb for boneless, skinless chicken breasts. Lots of items cheaper than the stores near the ocean.

I have been harassed and assaulted by black patrons in these grocery stores. I have been told by some neighbors that they, too, have had similar experiences. For my safety, I won't go back to these neighborhoods.

I don't buy Reade's account of her experience with Biden. After all, Pulitzer prize winning journalists haven't found her credible. But I do find her experiences in predominantly black enterprises credible based on my own experiences.

[live love laugh]

66. I do not see a parallel between an employer/employee relationship and exchanges at a grocery store

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Even if you encountered racial animosity that has no standing comparable to a discrimination charge when it comes to loss other than maybe "99-cent chicken” .

[obamanut2012]

73. oh boy

[Blue_true]

100. He met Black people that were assholes and let that get to him.

I haven't been called the n-word much in my life, but the handful of times that I was caused me to laugh in the face of the person that did it. It simply turns out that laughing at a racist is the most damaging thing that you can do to them.

[spudspud]

75. /facepalm

[ChiTownDenny]

76. Don't slap yourself in the face too hard.

I'm fully aware of the forum in which I shared my experiences and the risk I took doing so. Sorry if you don't like hearing a truth that doesn't fit your narrative.

[spudspud]

79. I won't. But please proceed.

[ChiTownDenny]

80. I'm not sure what you think I should proceed with.

If you're confused, just read my post once more. And really, don't slap yourself. Or seek help if you can't stop.

[spudspud]

81. Not confused at all.

My original post, and the other folks reacting to yours, pretty much had the same reaction: you trying to draw a parallel to some instances of racist customers at a supermarket and employment discrimination, is silly, but telling. Your reply to my "/facepalm" stating that you are sorry your position did not fit my "narrative" was also a giveaway. Your implication about this board, racism, and African Americans and a "narrative" about them, likely that they are incapable of being racist, is out of line. You sound very much more like a conservative on this issue than a democrat/progressive. My statement for you to proceed was to see if you'd dig yourself an even deeper hole.

[ChiTownDenny]

87. Sorry, Carnac.

No one else responded to me in an assholish manner. I was concerned there would be more but, alas, only you went there.

[spudspud]

88. Stop projecting.

I gave you the same roll eyes that live, love, laugh did, and the equivalent of oh boy's post. The only person who gave an asshole response was you.

[ChiTownDenny]

145. Disagreeing with someone

and being an asshole are two different things. An asshole wouldn't know the difference.

[spudspud]

146. No, you wouldn't.

[ChiTownDenny]

147. I know you are but what am I?

Your contribution to this site is infantile. Reported!

[spudspud]

148. This is some incredible projection going on.

I'm not your whipping boy for getting toasted by everyone for your "hot take."

Oh, and reporting me? LOL. Sound just like a Karen calling the police to do your bidding.

[Tipperary]

139. I have a close friend who drives for a living.

At one point he applied for a transit job in a southern city. He was told outright that they only hired black people. They were doing interviews on the spot that day, and the interviewer (who was black) was not rude at all, felt sorry for him and told him that she knew he would not get hired because he was white. What made it even funnier is that he is married to a black woman. I have visited that city many times, and I have never seen a white transit driver, ever.

So I know this happens. Sorry you are getting rude replies. I agree with those who point out it does not compare to what black people face every day. But it is wrong, no matter who does it.

[Demsrule86]

77. I disagree and add bigotry to the rest of Read's shortcomings

[marble falls]

83. I've been "discriminated" against by PoC. But I got it. I've seen PoC discriminated against ...

by whites. The discrimination you and I got was a situational thing. It happens. The discrimination a PoC gets started before they were born and goes on every day regardless of affirmative action, busing or any other kind of program and it goes on to where they can be buried and will be passed on to their kids.

What you and I got is nothing. Water off our backs - petty maybe but minor and not life threatening.

I'd much rather white and discriminated against than face the discrimination any person of any color faces. Too bad you missed the learning moment of your experience: what it felt like form your minor minimal experience and developed a little empathy. That fact you've felt it for sooo long and did not get any more lesson about racism and discrimination and the fact you don't get your white privilege in that you could move away from it is astounding. PoC get to carry their being discriminated against every where they go. They will never ever be able to move away from it like you did.

You lost the opportunity to learn from your experience and get past black and white which I guarantee would have happened if you would have stuck it out and learned about people and gave them an opportunity to learn about you.

[ChiTownDenny]

89. I really don't want to derail the topic of this OP, but...

I get the harm in denying a segment of a population education, and employment, and housing...for generations. I was addressing the point that a white person can be discriminated against by a POC and that many are unaware of that.

[marble falls]

92. Claiming discrimination from an 8 hour day voluntarily signed on for trivializes "discrimination"

[Blue_true]

104. I don't understand what you mean.

When a person is singled out for injury specifically because of their race, that is racism, no matter who the racist is. As a

Black person, it enrages me that well educated Black people were fired from their jobs because of their Blackness, I believe the nation has paid a very heavy price for that. So I don't come at this from the standpoint of a White who gets insulted because a Black person treats me badly. There are people on all races that only see the appearance of a person, they make no effort to see the actual person, without fail, I have found those people to not be worth associating with.

[marble falls]

109. Black people face discrimination all through their life: there's no clocking out from it ...

white guys who face a superficial sort of "discrimination" and who who winge over their discrimination in my mind trivializes the experience of discrimination that starts with where one lives, what stores one shops, the way shop keepers, landlords, bosses look at and treat their employees of color, where one goes to school, the quality of that education, how cops look at someone, how different the "justice" is for one class of humans vs another based on prejudice and race, that's real.

It is NOT the same as mean tricks like hiding time cards, calling someone "whiteboy" etc. Not even close.

[Blue_true]

115. Excellent post. As a Black person, I can't change my last name and live as

someone else like a lot of White immigrants to the country were able to do once they smoothly mastered the language and mannerisms. I have learned to let my objectives in life define me, no person other than me has that power.

[marble falls]

117. Anybody would do well to follow that advice. Be true to you.

[SinisterPants]

93. It's important to distinguish between discrimination and racism

Discrimination and prejudice happens everywhere, in every race and social position. As naked apes we are hard-wired to fear and mistrust the other or the different, and that's a bitch to unlearn (after 60 years, I'm still unlearning things I was told were true). And yes, white people can (very seldom) be victims of it.

Racism, OTOH, is structural and power based. It's mainly from the top down, and it's entire aim is to disenfranchise an entire group of people. White people living in the western world are pretty much incapable of being victims of racism.

Discrimination is saying "I don't like living next to you because of your race, or religion. or sexuality." It's sad, but unavoidable, and I've been the victim of it a few times. This can usually be solved by education and honest reflection

Racism is saying "I'll make sure you never get a home loan or a promotion, I'll make sure you're kids go to crap schools", and the police will automatically treat you like a suspect. It's almost always structural, and needs a concerted effort to dismantle.

As white allies to communities of color, we all need to reflect on how we've benefited from privilege, how our silence at times makes us complicit, and MOST IMPORTANT! Not thinking that we have all the answers.

[Blue_true]

103. Very good post.

I am Black, but have been called the n-word maybe twice to my face in my lifetime. Because of my appearance and education, maybe I escaped the worst of that treatment, I really haven't dwelled on it much.

What I have seen about people that use race as a mark to attack people is that they, without fail, have turned out to be very insecure people. A person should not let insecure people get them down. In my case, the two most important people outside of my parents in determining what I have become were White people, the first was a guy who I did yard work for as a teen and who took a deep interest in what I planned to do with my life, the other was my adviser in engineering school, who steadfastly removed roadblocks to help me succeed. I have never been the type to attack people because of things that they can't change, but when some of the most important people in your life have been in that category, that adds even more wisdom to that tendency.

[marble falls]

105. We're all in it together. Most people will do the right thing if given a chance. Just a chance ...

That's all you needed.

[Blue_true]

110. I have found that most people are decent. Some irritate the hell out of me

on occasion, but if I get past that, they are decent.

Sometimes we develop tendencies that we don't know that we have. My career has centered around giving instructions to people, it looks like my voice had become "trained" for that. I never realized how I talk until one day a guy asked me where something was in the grocery store where I shop. I pointed out where the stuff was and then was a little surprised when the guy just stood there. It turns out that he had just left a long stint in the military and I sounded like one of his officers. A Black person that is too frequently dismissed by White peoples may feel an internal need to turn that back, so he or she meets a White person that is on his or her turf and can't resist acting like an asshole.

[marble falls]

111. It only proves that on even ground we're all alike.

[Blue_true]

113. Yes. nt

[True Blue American]

130. Come on now guys!

Chi townDenny told you of his experience. But just like the METOO movement there can be cases of racism on both sides. It does happen.

Much like false accusations against men. No need to jump on him as if these things do not happen.

[marble falls]

134. Black "discrimination" against whites does even rate. It shouldn't even be mentioned at all ...

ever.

They are not the same. They are not equal. And saying I'll forget about the discrimination of blacks against whites and we'll just forget about the discrimination against blacks in return is wickedly obscene.

[True Blue American]

137. I never said a word

About any of that. I did say Chitown Denny told what he experienced.

I was harassed by 3 black teenagers where I was working. They seemed to think it was a game.

Problem for them the head of Security of the chain happened to be at the store watching on the monitors. Next thing I knew 2 of the boys took off, the third one tried to brazen it out that they wanted samples and I would not give them any. Fact was it was after the Holidays, we were out.

That 6,4 Security officer had walked right up beside me. He told them,” “ We are not in business of giving samples, you want to buy ,if not hit the door.” That very handsome man was a good friend of mine. I have to say I was happy to see him standing beside my 5,2 self.

I do not choose my friends by colors.

[marble falls]

140. "They seemed to think it was a game." Something no PoC ever said and that is the difference.

[True Blue American]

143. Well, that

Black Security guard did not think much of their,” “ game,” of harassing me.

QUit pretending those things do not happen. My Husband was coming home from work late one night, his window open. Some one stepped in front of him, he slammed on his brakes. Next thing he knew a gun was stuck in the window, robbed him.

Quit pretending it does not happen.

[mercuryblues]

98. cool story bro

The reason the prices are cheaper is because the closer you get for the ocean, the higher cost of housing. The question should not be (as you implied) why are these neighborhoods getting cheaper meats, but why are stores in higher income neighborhoods gouging you. Make no mistake they are earning a profit in both areas, if they weren't they would shut down. That is the nature of capitalism.

As for your perceived harassment. I suggested to a sister to go to a new wing place for lunch. When we went in, we were the only white people there. She mentioned to me that she felt uncomfortable being the only white person. My reply to her was...Now you know how a black person feels when they are the only black person in a restaurant.

Now I have traveled all through the US and have never seen, nor been the victim of harassment or assault in a grocery store. So really please define what you call harassment. Because what I have experienced is a black person was ahead of me at a deli counter, the deli person turned to me and asked what I wanted, totally ignoring the black lady. Now I spoke up and said she is in front of me.

check your privilege.

[Blue_true]

112. "Assaulted" to him may have been a Black person yelled at him, called him a name maybe, and

asked why he was shopping there.

I really wish that my country had not been what it has been on race and racial relations. But as a Black professional who sees optimism in a lot of things in life, it is what it is and all I can do is move forward. I remember the past, but I don't let it frame my future, that is my credo in life and I have stuck to that, allowing me to pick myself up from defeats and move to a better place in life.

[Blue_true]

99. The people that gave you trouble are most likely crappy people period.

Their problem has nothing to do with race, you were just a convenient mark.

My county didn't integrate schools until seven years after the Civil Rights Act was passed. It was part of the southern resistance to integration. I remember two White kids show up to my school to attend, I was used to seeing White kids on school buses as they were driven past my school to the schools across town. But those two kids, their parents maybe saw what was right. Some of the really insecure Black kids picked on the White kids, a boy and a girl, but they kept showing up to school each day, two years before I would see other White kids in class. Some of the Black kids became friends with the kids, so the boy and the girl had people to sit beside and hang out with at recess. When we got to high school, me and those two kids ended up in seperate high school, which to me today says their parents could have easily sent them to White only schools, given that they lived on the side of town nearer to where those schools were.

Long story short, being an asshole is colorblind, the people that picked on you are garden variety assholes. I think that you would have found that there were a lot of good people around there.

[Bucky]

125. I'm sorry that's happened to you. It sounds terrible

Hatred can be everywhere. I lived in a poor predominantly black neighborhood here in Houston for a couple of years and worked in that neighborhood for three years long before that. I don't recall ever having a problem like that. However there was one convenience store, a chain outfit, that I avoided that was a hub for pan handlers. That place's managers never bothered to chase off the bums the way the little O&O mom and pop shops would.

My point being that it's probably helpful to think of the problem being people being rude and hostile rather than black people being rude and hostile. There's a whole rainbow of assholes out there in the world, and they tend to cluster, but there's also a rainbow of courtesy. I hope you're able to find the latter and are willing to look past the skin that those attitudes are wrapped up in.

[True Blue American]

138. Agree!

[EllieBC]

27. She sounds like a typical RW shill then.

Also, can I get a link? I have a relatively friendly debate going with a friend and I would like to present this to her but need a link.

[octoberlib]

37. This blog has some receipts , court cases etc

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html

[RussBLib]

4. I just do not believe that Joe would stick her finger(s) up her in a hallway

Give me a fucking break. Trump, I would believe that. Joe, no.

[OKNancy]

39. Plus as many people have pointed out

THe hallway is usually crowded and in 1993 women were required to wear pantyhose in the offices of Congress.

[pandr32]

43. +1

[PatSeg]

52. Her description sounded

much too much like some of Trump's accusers, as if she was imitating them. The story just does not sound credible.

[Blue_true]

106. Yeah, that was what I noticed. She claims it was in a Senate hallway, of all places. nt

[dalton99a]

6. Kick

[DFW]

7. Seems rather a large number at that

Does she walk around with a target painted on her back? Does she have some kind of irresistible perfume? It just doesn't seem credible that she has been abused by so many men close to her, and all this suddenly now comes to light with the Democratic nominee for president leading the list weeks after securing the nomination. Either she has the worst timing on the world for someone wanting justice, or it is another Republican-backed scam. Or, considering her very vocal, almost religious devotion to Vladimir Putin, a scam whose original scenario was written in the Cyrillic alphabet.

Я не верю этому. конец !

[Ms. Toad]

25. Rape and sexual abuse are not things the victim brings on by "irresistible perfume"

or what someone wears, whether they are out alone, what time of day, etc.

Even if you find no credibility at all as to this particular accusation, suggesting that repeated sexual assault might be connected to victim behavior (a woman's choice of perfume) perpetuates harmful stereotypes about rape.

[DFW]

34. It's what is reported that seems wrong

The cast of characters of bad guys seems odd at best, and it is indeed THIS PARTICULAR ACCUSATION that I'm concerned about. The timing, the background and the personalities reek of fraud. It is Reade whose list (and actions and timing and Putin worship, etc.) seems to put into doubt her proclaimed irresistibility, and I don't buy it. No sane woman goes around looking to get abused. Therefore, one looks to the accused abusers for a clue or a pattern. It not an abused woman I expect to fit a stereotype, but rather her abusers. Reade's "list" list offers only more confusion. If what she has presented so far is the bulk of her story, it seems more the tale of someone looking for attention rather than justice. Ford or Hill she is definitely NOT.

[Ms. Toad]

38. I'm solely addressing this line.

Does she have some kind of irresistible perfume?

That ties allegations of rape/sexual abuse to the choice of perfume (victim behavior). Suggesting repeated sexual abuse is a result of wearing "irresistible perfume" perpetuates stereotypes of rape that it is somehow the victim's fault.

Making that link, even as a joke, and even when you don't believe the accuser, hurts women who have been raped or sexually abused who have had that accusation thrown at them - because it suggests that is why rapists rape. Rape is not about sexual attaction gone wild.

[gristy]

108. If you know DFW at all, you will view that as tongue-in-cheek, as I did.

I thought it was kind of funny, 'cause I was (jokingly) thinking the same thing myself.

[Ms. Toad]

118. Sorry, but I don't view linking victim behavior with allegations of rape or sexual assaul as a joke.

I've spent a decade of my life doing anti-rape work, and have spent too much time countering that myth (both when alleged against the survivors I am assisting - or when asserted in more general discussions, such as this one).

It is a harmful connection - and should never be used to discredit someone alleging sexual assault.

[UpInArms]

120. I have chickens ... and I watch the flock order ...

There is one hen that is constantly picked on ... by the roosters and other hens ...

So I moved her in with my peacocks ... they pick on her, also ...

I have been wondering what causes this ...

Does she have stronger pheromones or is she somehow annoying to the rest of the birds?

It reminds me of a cat that I had ... I thought she was the low cat (of 4). So, a friend of mine was visiting and saw that the other cats were mean to her ... and took her to live with her ... every cat in my house let out a collective sigh of relief after she left ... my friend reported that the cat had the same relationship (a poor one) with her existing cat (older and now deceased).

I conclude that there are those among every society who just have lives like that.

[Ms. Toad]

121. That's an accurate observation.

I have encountered many rape survivors who are repeatedly raped or abused. (I had decided not to get into the discussion about whether multiple accusations was linked to credibility)

But I don't find a half-dozen accusations (or whatever the number is) unusual at all. I'm not sure I'd say it was more freqent than not among the rape survivors I have worked with, but I was never surprised when I was sitting with a survivor in the hosptal (or talking with her later) to find that this was not her first experience with rape or sexual abuse.

Bullies in any group (human or animal) have a very good sense of who will make a good/compliant victim (i.e. not scream too loudly, not report, be able to be manipulated into believeing it was their fault). And often (not always) people who have been bullied (or sexually abused) learn their position in the pecking order, which helps perpetuate the cycle. I successfully broke out of being targeted by bullies - it was a conscous and deliberate effort to both physically distance myself and change my attitude so I didn't care about what the bullies thought. But it's not always easy or possible. But that's part of why women who grew up in abusive homes often marry abusive men, or women who have one abusive spouse may well have a second. Bullies are good at picking victims - and at nurturing the characteristics that make their targets "good" from the perspective of perpetuating the dynamic.

But that's a long shot from suggesting that an irresistable perfume triggers uncontrollable sexual urges.

[Bucky]

127. Thank you

I can tell you from my circle of acquaintances that I know more than a couple of women who have been victims of repeated abuse. So the fact that she's accused more than one person in her life of sexual assault is not by itself uncredible. Recognizing that does not require accusing her of bringing it on by her behavior or "asking for it."

The reality is there are predators out there and many men of that sort do have the capacity to discern likely vulnerable victims. I haven't settled my mind on what I think of this situation yet. I do know that in the past we have discussed this for him the at least borderline inappropriate handsiness Joe Biden has demonstrated, predominately toward women. That could be an indicator that he's capable of crossing other lines, or it could be an indicator is that a woman who's been frequently betrayed could transfer fears and memories from other events onto her interactions with a powerful man.

Tara Reade is a flawed accuser, but women who are victims of assault are frequently "flawed" in the sense that their confidence has been shaken, they've been traumatized, it sometimes takes years for them to work up the courage to confront an abuser (as we saw with Brett Kavanaugh's and Donald Trump's victims).

But I'm waiting to hear what comes out from Joe Biden's statement on MSNBC this morning. I don't want to see the DU mob up on a woman who's about suffered some dramas and betrayals in her life.

[uponit7771]

8. Any link to this? This is bad for her ... really bad and I'm disgusted at Hayes for his piece if thi

... this bears out.

[octoberlib]

36. This security blog has receipts

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html

[Hortensis]

9. Apparently Tara Reade's legal name is Alexandra McCabe,

and a seeming court record I pulled up for was Alexandra McCabe vs. Krystal Rojas and another under that name for a YWCA defendant in Monterey County.

I didn't find an accusation against Frankie Knight (Edward Franklin Walker), but this makes it clear there was a relationship. She was cohost of his Soul Vibes show about a decade back.
https://fundrazr.com/5LCpf?ref=ab_Atz1zVDd2loAtz1zVDd2lo

She's also used various names in the past. From Washington Monthly:

First of all, it is important to know that Tara Reade has gone by several different names in the past, including Tara Reade Moulton, Tara McCabe, Alexandra Tara McCabe, and Alexandra Tara Reade. In 2016 and 2017, she had a twitter account under the name Tara McCabe, where she retweeted praise for Joe Biden’s efforts to end sexual assault, as well as condemnation of Vladimir Putin.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/04/29/what-is-disturbing-about-tara-reades-allegations/

[Me.]

12. Speaking Of 2017

Her amount of aliases makes me think she has some big problems. THe article in Medium also proves her wrong.


“In 2017 Alexandra Tara Reade Praised Joe Biden for Helping End Sexual Assault.

In 2017 Alexandra Tara Reade praised Joe Biden for his action in helping stop sexual assault, not just once, but on multiple occasions.

Also in March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.”

https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

[Hortensis]

14. Yes. Twitter's Ms.Krassenstein is I think married to that author,

and she's tweeted a summary of Reade's contradictory actions also.

Link to tweet

Lol, while looking around I was tickled at Reade/McCabe's description of moving to the "frozen tundra" of the midwest and fleeing shortly after. This from a person who claimed to love everything about Russia and Russian culture. Not that I'm able to put any credence in it, but that in itself would be strange. All cultures have much to admire, but Russia's various ones inevitably include much that is flat incompatible with modern American values, and in particular liberal Democratic values.

Btw, she's now retracted her sex-laden adoration of Russia's murderous dictator and says those articles she published about that were actually part of a novel she was writing...

[asiliveandbreathe]

22. How to unroll thread..anyone..is extensive and taken as a whole

truly upends Reades assertions..

[Me.]

31. That Putin Business Was Always Hinky

and made me think there is a Putin/WH Menace connection in this story somewhere.

[lagomorph777]

17. So...even her NAME is a lie!

This is BS from top to bottom.

[Hortensis]

28. Well, her birth name was Tara Reade Moulton, so

you can see her names don't wander too far for amateurs to follow. It's clear, though, that she's a flake and troublemaker (always a victim of course), and not just a liar but the kind for whom "truth" is whatever she wants it to be at the moment.

The more I look at what is known about her, the more outrageous are these people who insist duty requires focusing on her allegations against Biden. You won't find this information about her various names or accusations against others in the NYT.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Has she won with any suits or cases or accusations?

[Alliepoo]

13. There was another post by Loki Liesmith this morning

About Tara Reades father writing a book-wish I could copy/ paste w my phone. In a reply to the post is a link to ascammersnightmareisjustice.blog.com2020. (Or close to that) The blog is full of info about her life of lying, scamming, bankruptcies , accusations, etc with legal info, email, tweets-screen shots of all kinds of info. It’s interesting.

[underpants]

20. Here ya go

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13369773

[Alliepoo]

114. Thanks!!!!

I really need to get a laptop!!

[LAS14]

11. I really wish someone (Biden campaign? DUer?) with research skills...

... would put together a document showing the verification for each of these items. Seems to me that would be a hard thing for Tucker and friends to respond to. Not, me, unfortunately. No research skills.

[mfcorey1]

16. Biden should not reply because the minute he does, the GOP

will use the media to make it the only focus. With no words from Biden, a whole lot is coming to light about the accuser. Let the lawyers handle it.

[ancianita]

41. +1

[democrattotheend]

70. I disagree

That made sense last week but at this point, it's gotten enough attention that the longer he waits to respond the worse it looks. From what I understand Kerry felt the same way initially about the Swiftboat ads - don't dignify them with a response - and look how that worked out.

[KS Toronado]

18. Sounds like she needs a good helping of "Lock Her Up"

[luvtheGWN]

49. Also looks like she's desperate for money.

Hey, here's the GOP and probably Putin to the rescue.

[True Blue American]

144. That is the question

Who is backing her? Think back yo Trump having the 5 Clinton accusers in the front row of the first debate.

[WhiteTara]

19. Soome people wear a sign on their sleeves that

says "I'm a bruise, pinch me"

[underpants]

23. Thanks DI. Bookmarking

I saw this and couldn’t find it again.

Somehow I turned on Private Browsing.

[Peacetrain]

24. The one thing I remember reading her neighbor (the one the press is talking about)

said about her, was that she always had a lot of drama going on.. holy cow.. this is nuts..

[bucolic_frolic]

26. Everyone has a personality and a history that shapes their reality

so there appears to be several clues there to sift through.

[NJCher]

29. maybe she just accuses them

instead of letting it go. Some people are like that.

I think any reasonably attractive woman could have a list 20 times that, sadly, but they may not have raised the accusation.

That's what me too is all about. Women are sick of it and sick of keeping their mouths shut about it.

[George II]

30. Lost in all this discussion is the fact that at the time Biden supposedly "raped" her....

....she was 4-5 months pregnant.

[appleannie1]

32. I think most women have dealt with sexual harassment at one time or another.

I know I have walked off a job in the middle of the day for just that. To this day, women deal with it.
There is a male voter at the polling place where I have worked that we hated to see come in to vote. He always chose a time when it would not be busy. He always felt the need to tell us dirty jokes. It did not matter to him that no one laughed and we all tended to get busy doing something else and pointedly ignored him. Now, I can find an off color joke funny but you could tell that his motive was not to make us laugh, it was to make us uncomfortable. That is a form of sexual assault.

There are also men that put their hands on people. With some men, it is just women. With other men it is everyone. Joe Biden fits in the everyone category. When he is talking to someone, he puts his hand on an arm or his arm around a shoulder or something. I really don't think it is sexual. But never having been on the receiving end, I really can't judge.

All I know is I doubt he has ever raped a 13 year old or stuck his hand up the skirt of a fellow passenger on a plane, or stuck his tongue down some unwilling women's throat while his hand is in her underwear and her back pinned against a wall. Nor has he ever bragged about assaulting women like it is something he should get an award for doing. So for me, Biden would be the more moral of the two choices.

[Historic NY]

33. The Troublesome Tara Reade Story

[link:https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tara-reade-joe-biden-democrats/|]

[Takket]

35. Well, there are definitely some really unlucky people out there

But the more I hear about Reade, the more I think she is not being truthful.

[Budi]

40. Reade's tweets from Sept & Dec 2019 Praising Putin & against the US.

Notice the dates. This was about 4 months ago.

How does she KNOW of America's plan to bring Russia to it's knees as she says in her tweet?

Ms Reade sure sounds pro-Putin & anti-America & she reveals a suspicious lot about herself.

Link to tweet

[Mosby]

42. K and R

[dlk]

44. When children are sexually abused by their parents

(and the numbers are much higher than we are willing to admit) an unhealthy pattern is established through NO fault of the child, that often plays out repeatedly in their lives. Vicim-blaming is harmful and protects predators.

We are all desperate to be rid of the toxic waste dump in the WH and whatever Joe Biden is accused of pales in comparison to Trump’s long, sordid history as a sexual predator. However, let’s not shred a victim, either.

[GoneOffShore]

46. It's beginning to look like she's shredding herself.

[dlk]

48. It's not unusual for abuse victims to self-destruct

The scars and damage run deep.

[live love laugh]

72. It's not unusual for incarcerated parents to have incarcerated children.

Many issues run deep between families and generations. Still each person has to be held account for their actions and accountability is not vilification.

[Chalco]

47. Exactly. I was thinking the same thing!

I find this whole post very disturbing.

I think Biden's response should be "Let's pretend she's telling the truth. So, that means I
sexually harassed/assaulted 1 woman and Trump sexually harassed/assaulted how many?
Twenty, thirty?"

I can't tell you how many times I was sexually harassed/assaulted by various men in my
life precisely for the reason you outlined.

Thank you.

[dlk]

50. Incest is the last great taboo in America

The wounds run deep.

[Chalco]

55. Amen. nt

[PortPark]

56. But...Did you read her dad's memoir yet?

It gets even weirder.

Link to tweet

?s=19

And it's for sure her father's book as both she and the book are mentioned in his obituary.

Link to tweet

?s=19

So that's...neat

[Ferry Fey]

149. Her father's memoir sexualizes teen daughter

The character in Loss, the memoir by Bob Moulton (Tara Reade's father) goes on on the next page after the digital penetration passage to disparagingly sexualize his teenage daughter:

"Kate'll be just like her mother. Only 15 and she's got tits already. Lipstick fingernail polish. But at least she'll make money. Young whores make big money."  [All punctuation the author's].

Tara Reade states in a Medium article "Powerful Men and the Women They Choose to Destroy,"  "The first powerful man who abused me physically and emotionally was my father." (Though she then goes on to lie in the next sentence about her father's occupation, so we don't know from this whether the abuse claim is truthful either.).  

[Hekate]

61. Whatever she is a "victim" of, it isn't the Dem candidate for president. Her story is a hit job...

...her story is sexual Swiftboating.

The GOP and Putin both know that sexual abuse is a "trigger" for us Democrats, and that if they pull that trigger enough times we will kill our own, deservedly or not.

The Me Too movement was not intended to be the New Puritanism, nor was it intended to be the prelude to the New Salem Witch Craze, where an accusation, however ludicrous, could lead to the public hanging of innocent people.

When it comes to believing women -- sorry, but it is not unconditional in politics in this day and age. We were manipulated into dumping Al Franken without due process, and that manipulation proceeds apace. Consider the source, consider their associates. This isn't the old "What were you wearing, lady?" schtick. This is being intelligent enough to check what other motives the accuser might have before running with the story. If even Ronan Farrow declines to take it up, something is really wrong.

The attempted murder of Joe Biden's reputation is infuriating on so many levels. If his lifelong career in politics had not been clean, Obama would not have take Biden as VP. Then Obama's administration itself was clean and scandal free, and we are all aware that the GOP tried every day to pin something, anything, nasty on both Obama and Biden -- finally settling on lying about that old reliable, Hillary, because that always works.

In this campaign, Trump-GOP tried political malfeasance (Ukraine), and now they are trying sex. What will they try next? What bait will we take? What bait will we be dumb enough to take?

[GoCubsGo]

65. The worst part of it is that they're taking advantage of

an apparently mentally unstable woman to do it. And, financially desperate, if the claims are accurate. It's sickening. But, not at all surprising.

[SuprstitionAintthWay]

90. Damaging the Democrat with smears, combined with suppressing the vote

...is HOW Republicans have competed for office for decades now. 90% of their game is behind the scenes, off and out of sight of the playing field, where no rules apply in their version of competition for office.

They know they can no longer win elections without, and have no qualms about, lying and cheating. So smearing the Democrat and disenfranchising or creating obstacles to his or her voters getting to the polls IS their "campaign."

It was only a few months ago a young gay man reported he'd been offered money to lie and claim Pete Buttigieg sexually molested him.

I'm especially struck by Reade's recent head-spinning reversals on two world-prominent male politicians. In the same short timeframe (1) she switched from touting Biden for his qualities and his work advocating for women, to, as soon as he is about to become the Democratic nominee, suddenly attempting to bring him down with an accusation of sexual assault; and (2) she switched from also idolizing Putin, ALSO for his (supposed, in Putin's case) wonderful treatment and advancement of women in Russia, while she cooed over his "intoxicating" manliness, to suddenly she's retracted all that, tried to wipe it off the internet, and now claims she was just mistaken about Putin.

My predisposition is to believe women claiming to have been sexually assaulted unless there are serious warning signs something is amiss. I've seen a lot of serious warning signs something is amiss here. This is not someone on the basis of whose current word I am willing to make any kind of an important decision.

But she definitely is someone who our 2020 Republirussian opponents would eagerly support.

[octoberlib]

124. Good post ! You said it far better than I could.

[emmaverybo]

135. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

[barbtries]

45. i'll judge.

she's a GOP asset.
i wonder if she has a personality disorder.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

62. Supposedly she's associated with the "Bernie or Bust" crowd.

Though I'm sure the GOP won't hesitate to take advantage of the situation.

[barbtries]

63. i'm not sure they're not GOP assets. nt

[Demsrule86]

142. I've seen tweets where she is a bernie or bust type.

I think they were deleted but someone copied them.

[DENVERPOPS]

51. OCTOBER SURPRISE

There are gonna be countless Torpedo jobs on Biden.....

The RepubliCONS do it, because it works........

Look no farther than Kerry and how he got "Swiftboated"......A war hero..........
Turned 180 degrees from the facts, to a total fantasy bull shit story by a RepubliCON group.
I found it un-fathomable that Kerry did not sue them in public courts for Slander, Liable, or defamation of character.
It seemed to me he had more than enough to sue them, and to make it stick.
The fact that he didn't worked to their advantage......"if it weren't true he would have sued us" bullshit.

It is gonna get horrifically worse by the end of the summer. I'm sure by then the RepubliCONs will have Biden driving thru red states with a vehicle mounted atomizer dispersing the virus.........

The RepubliCons are known for their "OCTOBER SURPRISE", launched a few weeks before the election without enough time to expose their claims, and that falsely defames the Dem candidate. Look at that asshole at the FBI who "suddenly discovered" thousands of so called Hillary emails. Look at Kerry swift boating. Look at Reagan dealing with Iran before the election. The list is endless...........

My memory is failing me, was it James Comey that torpedoed Hillary with the false email claims??? I believe that that act, all by itself effected her loss more than any other single factor....... That along with Putin's help in rigging the voting, did her in......

[krawhitham]

132. Swiftboating was not an October suprise, they started TV ads in May

[DENVERPOPS]

133. Sorry

What was the OCTOBER SURPRISE that year?????? Or did the totally corrupt Swiftboating destroy him enough early on.....??????

My mind is getting old and I can only remember a few.....The Iran thing with Reagan, The Comi email thing with Hillary.

What are some of the other ones? Can you remember????? Didn't they do a thing with Dukakis? in a tank????

[Snarkoleptic]

53. She seems to have a slobbering affection toward Putin.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190404043945/https://medium.com/@shewrites94/why-a-liberal-democrat-supports-vladimir-putin-f54ca2a3a405

Through my lens, President Putin brought a chaotic and failed nation to become a vibrant, creative, economic force within a decade. I don’t care what your politics; just admit that his sheer, calculated vision and willful energy brought Russia back to be a world power. Now, I said this to a friend recently, she waved her glass of Merlot at me and began the “anti-Russia” lecture we all have come in America to memorize, a tale of spies, oligarchs, rigged elections and murders. I start to drift. I listen to the Sade song playing in the background “The Sweetest Taboo” as she speaks. When she finishes, I say, “Well, he is very good to women, holds them in high regard.” She starts to protest then stops and says, “yes, yes, but…” She trails off no doubt thinking of the American President’s obvious disdain and objectification of all women. I shrug. Maybe, America is on some wrong side of very big issues and we need to look at our own actions. For example,Yemen or Afghanistan. It used to be fashionable as a Democrat to embrace our Russian sisters and brothers. Now, it is supposed to be only Republican territory. This is ironic since the whole American anti-Russian propaganda came originally from neo-conservative hawks.

There have been many American administration changes; President Putin has tried again and again to keep diplomatic ties strong. I am sure, President Putin has experienced political whiplash with the mercurial American diplomatic meetings. But then he is against an American machine that is more than one politician; it is an American political landmine full of traps, set up before he even came to power. The agenda was clear, concise and evident when I worked in Washington DC, keep the Russians talking but bring their nation down and no world seat for them at the table. Politics has always been a blood sport.

President Putin’s genius is his judo ability to conserve his own energy and let the opponents flail, using up their energy, while he gains position. Currently, President Putin has a higher approval rating in America then the American President, particularly with women. President Putin has an alluring combination of strength with gentleness. His sensuous image projects his love for life, the embodiment of grace while facing adversity. It is evident that he loves his country, his people and his job. Although his job may seem like in the words of writer, Elizabeth Gilbert on genius, “ trying to swallow the sun.” This is a whole lot to deal with for one mere mortal… President Putin’s obvious reverence for women, children and animals, and his ability with sports is intoxicating to American women. Especially since the bloated, American President is so negative, denigrating and dismissive of anyone but himself as he stumbles even playing golf (which is not a real sport anyway but a past time, sorry golfers).

[Snarkoleptic]

54. Then there's this little gem-

https://archive.is/Vi7Hf

...Second, I saw the reckless imperialism of America and the pain it caused through out the world. Third, I love Russia with all my heart. I love the people, the history, the culture and even my attempts to learn the language. I could not stand to watch the deception and xenophobia that came from my own American government. It is so sad and destructive to revile another culture or country for no reason but economic gain.

President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader. President Putin has higher approval ratings in America then the American President. President Putin is beloved by Russia and he not going anywhere. Instead of being ensnared in the recent political intrigues (and America is trying hard to set that trap). President Putin is keeping a calm focus on his own country’s development and future, without America.

To President Putin, I say keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love. To all my Russian friends, happy holiday and Happy New Year.

[octoberlib]

71. This is so over the top. Almost as if she was being paid to write laudatory things about Putin.

[question everything]

57. Link, please

[KayF]

84. thank you

that's important, and also it lives up to your handle.

[SpankMe]

58. Her threshold of what constitutes assault/harassment may be very low

A dirty joke told in her presence or a shoulder touch could have been interpreted as harassment.

Some people are that way. I'd have to see the specifics of each of these cases before I could judge them as true harassment or a case of overactive butt-hurt.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

59. A THIRD POSSIBILITY - sometimes people with history of early abuse recreate the same/similar abuse

in adult relationships - are drawn to people who treat them poorly.

[hamsterjill]

64. It's all a deflection and it's got to stop.

I’m sorry if other DU’ers think I’m horrible. But I’m voting for Biden NO MATTER WHAT because another Trump term is a death sentence for me and people I love and care about.

This Tara Reade stuff is Republican in origin meant to smear. If that’s hypocritical of me because of Kavanaugh, etc., well I’m not perfect. But I smell a rat with her accusation and simply put, I cannot imagine Biden doing what she alleges. He doesn’t have the slime factor that Trump and Kavanaugh emit.

Can we please NOT destroy our nominee before the election? Not take the bait THIS time?

[MasonDreams]

67. Abuse by the father creates a vulnerability that invites predators.

No one knows if it's true. Noone knows if it's false. Especially those of us who supported Hitler's removal from office, and now ache to see trump out of power.
I don't know what course others may take, or should take. I don't know period.
All I know is true or false, it won't be her fault. Until they find it to be a malicious conspiracy and even then, it won't be her fault.

[subana]

68. this was the top story on The View today

I sometimes watch The View if they're discussing something interesting. When I saw that this was their lead story I couldn't believe it! I thought, oh come on!! You seriously want to talk about a 17 yr old sexual harassment claim & not about the pandemic or about a million other stories that are more important at this moment?!!

[Eric J in MN]

150. The year 1993 was 27 years ago. NT

NT

[subana]

151. yes, I realized that after I posted the message

thanks for the correction, though

[democrattotheend]

69. This doesn't by itself disprove her allegations against Biden

I know several women who have been the victim of abuse by multiple men. Unfortunately it tends to snowball - once a woman is mistreated once she sometimes thinks she is worth less and thus is more likely to end up with other people who mistreat her.

That said, the fact that she complained about each of the other alleged abusers at or near the time it happened does somewhat undercut the oft-cited reasons for waiting three decades to come forward about Biden, such as that women were afraid to come forward before the MeToo movement. If she hasn't been shy in the past about complaining about harassment it seems less believable that it took her 27 years to get the courage to come forward about Biden, rather than picking this time to inflict maximal damage.

[DTomlinson]

74. I won't judge. nt

[KitSileya]

78. As I always say, if you say your ex is a nightmare,

he or she is probably a nightmare. If you claim all your exes are nightmares, you are probably a nightmare.

[Ferrets are Cool]

82. But Chris Hayes said we should look at this seriously

How could you be SO FUCKING WRONG on this one Chris?
What? You think you need to take the mantle of that OTHER Chris that just had to leave abruptly?

[Hav]

86. Yeah right,

if only that didn't happen, we wouldn't see this liar making this ridiculous claim, now. Nice try but bullshit.
There is no doubt here. She changed her story from no sexual misconduct to rape. If people took just 5 minutes to check out how made up all this is, this story would be dead.

[NY06DemSoc]

91. It's not about what's true - the world deals in "Truthiness"

Sure if you have the time and take the time to work it out or read about it you might find something that is true. But for most people all they need is something like truthiness.

[Drunken Irishman]

97. That is bullshit.

Biden is likely to survive this solely because people know he's been an advocate for women for decades.

[alittlelark]

102. Uh, Yeah.........................

[Cha]

122. BULL.. this is All on Reade's RF.. she PRAISED Joe Biden..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

In 2017 Alexandra Tara Reade Praised Joe Biden for Helping End Sexual Assault.

In 2017 Alexandra Tara Reade praised Joe Biden for his action in helping stop sexual assault, not just once, but on multiple occasions.

Between September of 2016 and May of 2017, Alexander Tara Reade used a Twitter account, under the name Tara McCabe, to spread praise of Joe Biden via tweeting, retweeting and liking various Tweets.

There are multiple examples of this, as seen below:
In the below instance, Reade retweeted a tweet by Margaret Cho that appears to commend Joe Biden for working with Lady Gaga to end sexual assault.

More~
https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

[Blue_true]

95. Some people are just head cases. Tara Reade sounds like one.

Her antics are going to harm a lot of women that will be legitimate victims of sexual assault and/or discrimination, that is the sad part of this situation.

[Grokenstein]

96. Roseanne Barr, Part Two.

Way back when she was the Domestic Goddess adored by certain parties on the left, Barr would accuse anyone and everyone who came within fifteen miles of her--including her parents--of rape.

We must not dismiss accusations outright, but we must not immediately presume the accused's guilt either. That's not rocket science, even if it isn't boiled down to a hashtag. And stop worshipping celebrities!!

[alittlelark]

101. Her father is likely REAL - the damage done in childhood continues.

I feel deeply sorry for those that experience that childhood damage, and recognize how Damaged those adults become if they have no interventional help.

[iwannaknow]

107. Sources please!

[hay rick]

116. Reade is going for the professional victim gold. nt

[DIVINEprividence]

123. Anyone defending Tara Reade will have egg on their face

She is clearly a lying con artist and a scammer.

http://ascammersnightmareisjustice.blogspot.com/2020/04/tara-reade-legacy-of-lies-part-one.html?m=1

[sellitman]

128. Someone should check her bank statement

Bet there are large deposits of late.

[KPN]

129. I'm just going to trust your sources. My gut,

intuition and reason have been telling me her accusation against Biden is a genuine “hoax”. I also wouldn’t be surprised if there was a certain source of money behind her revelation,

[iwannaknow]

131. I have been sexually assaulted/harassed at least 5 times in my life

Is there a quota on how many times one is allowed to make a complaint about such an incident? In my case I didn't file any complaints, not because I was being nice, but because I was chicken-sh*t.

I did complain in confidence once to a fellow female employee who ended up telling management. I was mortified and was a target of resentment and suspicion after that. Since you don't know who I am, I can also tell you that my therapist suspected I was molested by a close male relative as well.

One of the things that has been so great about the #metoo movement is that it has exposed the ubiquitousness of harassment and assault. As mentioned, it has happened several times in my life, and I suspect I'm far from alone.

As far as the theft is concerned, I am wondering how many people have committed petty theft against an employer, such as, using the network printer to print personal documents, or running off with some paper clips.

One more thing: you might want to consider providing us with a link to your source(s);