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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe CANNOT stand by and let Joe Biden get Al Franken'd.
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We need to let it sink.
We are better than this.
Let. It. Sink.
The concern is noted.
Let it sink.
texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,807 posts)Ms. Gillibrand endorsed Joe. 😄
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)Cha
(297,723 posts)information of why TR's story is Not credible.
It's being smeared all over the internet but there are some responsible people investigating her allegations and finding it doesn't make sense.
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)and then there are the others...
TY, Cha!
Mahalo, Sheltie
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Just sayin'.
ramen
(791 posts)diva77
(7,659 posts)president who have been accused-- including incumbents. Would that help prevent being Frankened?
Warpy
(111,359 posts)His lawyers have been doing anything and everything to run out the clock. Time to end that.
It's also time to follow some money.
We've known for a long time Biden is one of those handsy types. Women have complained--most of us don't like that shit, so watch it guys--but nothing has risen to the level of a crime.
I say if Reade wants to make this stick, she needs to file a real complaint with the appropriate agency and pursue it in a courtroom, not in the press.
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)that people can use when they encounter this on social media.
For example, someone posted here a piece by a prosecutor, explaining why he is skeptical of Reade's claims.
It had some great point I haven't seen anywhere else.
I'll highlight just a couple of his points. He lists many.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/?fbclid=IwAR0nNIJ3LyX4hJtd6avUR3yWwL_wiU5zbXUWcwRJPmBpnk5os72yn1oA8JU
Missing formal complaint. Reade told The Times she filed a written complaint against Biden with the Senate personnel office. But The Times could not find any complaint. When The Times asked Reade for a copy of the complaint, she said she did not have it. Yet she maintained and provided a copy of her 1993 Senate employment records.
SNIP
Memory lapse. Reade has said that she cannot remember the date, time or exact location of the alleged assault, except that it occurred in a semiprivate area in corridors connecting Senate buildings. After I left the Justice Department, I was appointed by the federal court in Los Angeles to represent indigent defendants. The first thing that comes to mind from my defense attorney perspective is that Reades amnesia about specifics makes it impossible for Biden to go through records and prove he could not have committed the assault, because he was somewhere else at the time.
SNIP
The Larry King call. Last week, new "evidence" surfaced: a recorded call by an anonymous woman to CNN's "Larry King Live" show in 1993. Reade says the caller was her mother, who's now deceased. Assuming Reade is correct, her mother said: "Im wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington? My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him." [she chose not to report a RAPE out of respect for him???]
As a prosecutor, this would not make me happy. Given that the call was anonymous, Reades mother should have felt comfortable relaying the worst version of events. When trying to obtain someones assistance, people typically do not downplay the seriousness of an incident. They exaggerate it. That Reades mother said nothing about her daughter being sexually assaulted would lead many reasonable people to conclude that sexual assault was not the problem that prompted the call to King.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)Is getting it through our collective heads that they cannot effectively assail our political figures without our help. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....
Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.
Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.
If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."